So, ignore the lack of responsibility of the parents becasue something may occur? Seems logical.
Multiple injuries reported after Michigan high school shooting; suspect in custody
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So, ignore the lack of responsibility of the parents becasue something may occur? Seems logical.
Nope not ignoring. I know of no law holding someone responsible for someone else's actions. The fact that the pistol was stored in the parents room would lead me to believe it was in their possession. If someone takes someone else's possession without their permission, that is stealing.
THE GUN WAS THE SONS GUN!!!! He did not "steal" the gun, it was his. The gun was not locked up, the gun was less than twenty feet from Ethan's bedroom.
I can call anything mine but if it is not in my possession it isn't mine. I own the statue of liberty. Do I own it? Do I possess it? What does the law of that state say what ownership is? I do not know I have not looked it up.
Wow. The Sig pistol was an early Christmas present. The parents said so, as did the kid. It was a bona fide gift, it was the sons gun. Period.
By this way of thinking, if you and I go the range and I let you shoot one of my guns, it is no longer mine? If I borrow your truck to move a new frezzer, the truck is no longer owned by you?
MCL - Section 567.222 - Michigan Legislature
www.legislature.mi.gov
(b) "Apparent owner" means the person whose name appears on the records of the holder as the person entitled to property held, issued, or owing by the holder.
(n) "Owner" means a depositor, in the case of a deposit; a beneficiary, in case of a trust other than a deposit in trust; a creditor, claimant, or payee, in the case of other intangible property; or a person having a legal or equitable interest in property subject to this act. Owner includes the legal representative of the person defined as an owner in this subdivision.
Someone under 18 cannot legally own a firearm.
Nope the truck is still mine, I have the title the legal documentation of ownership.
spat
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Well, if we could put @GOPerfect in charge of making that determination in every case then we'd be all good.
But, we can't, and there is no way that I would trust for us to decide who else gets to make that call.
Acer-m14
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i think there was a little girl that was suspended from school like 38 times for not waring a mask ..
it was 36 ..
Florida second-grader suspended 36 times for mask mandate violation
A Florida girl may have to repeat second grade after she was suspended more than 30 times for refusing to comply with the district’s face mask mandate.
nypost.com
the school could have booted his ass from school ..
dwa12479
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2 completely different scenarios. Hom stealing my car keys without my knowledge and me activitley handing them over are not one and the same.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
This seems to be the most viable story st the time. He was clearly a disturbed kid, and Mom n Dad bought him a gun and gave him easy access. It reminds me of Dawn Nguyen who bought Willam Spenglers guns against her better judgment and he used them Christmas Eve 2012 in Webster.
spat
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Pretty sure the parents didn't hand him the gun on his way to school.
Pretty sure they would have stopped him taking it if they knew he was trying too.
These are the same two parents that emptied their bank accounts the day after the shooting and ran and hid. This is the same father that has not paid child support to his other son in nine years. Same parents that have not paid car insurance in 11 months. Same parents that were in default of their mortgage.
Yeah, they made great and sound decisions. They would have stopped him for sure. They would have decided now was the time to make a good decision.
spat
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There are bad choices, and then there's letting your kid take a gun to school.
I doubt they were *that* bad.
Glad you have faith in them. They allowed him to make molitoff cocktails and throw them when he was 11. In a residential back yard.
Yeah, good choices. Great decision making.
Robin
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I heard the DA is going after school officials with the same charges as Mom and Pop. C'mon big media, get that posse going, hang em all and let God sort em out!
Robin
Robin
Acer-m14
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they should .. from this video .. so the parents refused to remove the kid from school ..
.. so the school should have then called 911 to remove him from the school ..
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah, a hanging offense for sure!
Robin
Robin
repete
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The parents aren't guilty of murder but at the same time they are to damn stupid to live! If it weren't for warning labels they would've died long ago.
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"Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald, who is overseeing the criminal case against the student accused in the Nov. 30 shooting and who took the rare step of charging his parents, has left open the possibility that school officials may also face charges.
Three hours before Ethan Crumbley allegedly opened fire, killing four fellow students and wounding six others and a teacher, the 15-year-old was sent back to class after a meeting between school counselors and his parents over a drawing a teacher found on his desk that included a bullet and the words “blood everywhere.” "
www.mlive.com
Three hours before Ethan Crumbley allegedly opened fire, killing four fellow students and wounding six others and a teacher, the 15-year-old was sent back to class after a meeting between school counselors and his parents over a drawing a teacher found on his desk that included a bullet and the words “blood everywhere.” "
Michigan attorney general to review Oxford school shooting
The AG review will come despite the school district’s rejection of her offer to be its third-party investigator.
www.mlive.com
Good.
spat
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Please, we all know it was the guns fault."Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald, who is overseeing the criminal case against the student accused in the Nov. 30 shooting and who took the rare step of charging his parents, has left open the possibility that school officials may also face charges.
Three hours before Ethan Crumbley allegedly opened fire, killing four fellow students and wounding six others and a teacher, the 15-year-old was sent back to class after a meeting between school counselors and his parents over a drawing a teacher found on his desk that included a bullet and the words “blood everywhere.” "
Michigan attorney general to review Oxford school shooting
The AG review will come despite the school district’s rejection of her offer to be its third-party investigator.
Lock it up and let everyone else go.....
Acer-m14
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no .. the gun didn't kill anyone .. who got hit with the gun and died ? LOL ..