New Bill in Senate Would Make You a Felon For Buying More Than 20 Rounds in 120 Days

[Paperpunch]

next pc will redefine a salt weapon to be anything that shoot boowits!!!!!

then again they now will have a registry so........knock knock to anyone buying an real amount of ammo....

cuz god forbid we buy it to use for practice and other legal uses......like mine these days as Shelf decorations.

No no no, don't leave ammo lying around, or gun magazines (publications) or anything that would arouse suspicion.

 

[Saltwater60]

The way I read it this essentially says you may buy whatever you want unless it’s a registered assault weapon? How would anyone know that ammo is or isn’t for that registered weapon. Also how would an ammunition seller know if you had a registered assault weapon or not? Will NYS share those records? Unconstitutional for sure. I guess she’s dumber than she looks.

 

[Modean]

20 rounds. It’s as if the “legislators” that write these bills have zero clue about training with a firearm.

 

[camper4lyfe]

20 rounds. It’s as if the “legislators” that write these bills have zero clue about training with a firearm.

Couple that with the live fire requirement for the CCW permits that take 200+ rounds....and you have....oh, wait....

 

[Bigfoot]

"sigh"

facepalm

another "sigh"

It's all so tiresome.

It's like rapid-fire tyranny coming out of NYC.
Don't those commies ever take a day off?
It's one fucking thing after another.

 

[ManualF150]

So am I going to have a lock out tag out on my ammo plant in my garage? Only allowed to make 20 rounds in 120 days, then I need to do a LOTO on it so I don't accidentally make 21 rounds?

 

[libertysnake]

What if I find more than 20 rounds just laying on the ground? Does that count?

 

[Depick]

Honestly I would love just one day without some new infringement being schemed up or proposed. At this point I’m with @Deplorable Me let’s just fight already and whatever happens from there I’m good with.

 

[Saltwater60]

20 rounds. It’s as if the “legislators” that write these bills have zero clue about training with a firearm.

Well it’s not 20 rounds because in NYC they only allow 5 round mags so in NYC it’s 10 rounds. Yes I’m aware NYC doesn’t allow assault weapons.
The law actually reads two times the magazine capacity.

 

[Saltwater60]

Couple that with the live fire requirement for the CCW permits that take 200+ rounds....and you have....oh, wait....

Pistols are specifically expect from this law.

 

[Saltwater60]

So am I going to have a lock out tag out on my ammo plant in my garage? Only allowed to make 20 rounds in 120 days, then I need to do a LOTO on it so I don't accidentally make 21 rounds?

Nope it’s only for sales of ammo. You can have and possess as much as you want.

 

[Saltwater60]

Please go and read the law or what the proposed law says guys since nearly every comment here is wrong.
First it’s a ban on sales not possession
Second anything used for hunting, self defense, or sport
It specifies no revolvers or pistols are included in this.
it says assault weapon as defined by prank code 265 subdivision 22.
It appears to me the only thing impacted is registered assault weapons under the safe act but I’m no expert on 265.22. I tried to look it up but it goes from 19 to 25.

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

 

[CaliberPlus]

The way I read it, it should not impact anyone with an AR or AK, as the mags are pinned, not an AW. Well, except LE, who are exempt from pinning mags. Exempt until you get to this steaming pile of words.

Now since pistols are excluded, I know of a lot of them in AR platform in all kinds of calibers. Then there are guns like the M&P 1522. I have a 9mm carbine AR and on it goes.

This is a very poorly written, I can guess the intent but the written words have meaning and the intent got lost. Still, give it time, with the crap coming at us for ammo, more will be done and written so that intent is not lost.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Pistols are specifically expect from this law.

…for now

 

[Saltwater60]

…for now

Well of course but we can’t deal with that until it happens. I’m sure anything we can dream up short of armed cops breaking down our doors soon will happen.

 

[Tisto]

Roxanne Persaud (born March 1, 1966) is a Guyanese-American politician. She is a Democrat and a member of the New York Senate for the 19th district, which includes portions of Canarsie, East New York, Brownsville, Mill Basin, Sheepshead Bay, Bergen Beach, Marine Park, Flatlands, Ocean Hill and Starrett City in Brooklyn. - (Wikipedia)

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It's always those NYC fucks. That's New York State's biggest problem.

Being that she represents the Brooklyn area, I think there are more important things for her to be concerned with. If this were to pass it will do nothing to slow down the feral people in her district. But that's not her intention.

Looks to me like Jim Jones let one get away...too bad.

 

[RedBreast21]

Hmm. I believe the only so called legal, as defined by the SAFE ACT as "assault weapon" here in NY are the ones owned by those who decided to comply and register them under that grace period. Everything else that was modified for compliance to the SAFE ACT is no longer an assault weapon as defined by NY. It doesn't explicitly exempt LEO's and those LE organizations so they will therefor have to comply with this new law.

 

[spat]

NY-S929 only applies to ammo for guns meeting the NYS definition of an assault weapon ... which us lowly plebes are barred from owning since they may have dangerous stocks, weapons of war magazines, or murderous pistol grips, or deadly thingies attached to the barrel.

Except virtually all ammo will fit a gun that NY considers an assault weapon.

Imagine just trying to find some caliber nobody makes an AR upper for, let alone every other gun NY considers "too assaulty" LOL

 

[repete]

I can see it now LEO comes to my house.
LEO KNOCKING
me Yes, what's up up?
LEO, We got a report that you purchased more the 20 rounds of 5.56
me, yeah so what
LEO, that's against the law
Me, no, that's only IF I registered an assault rifle and I don't own any of those.
LEO, what's that in the corner?
ME, Oh, that's a NYS neutered modern sporting rifle.
LEO, can we shoot your dog now?

 

[spat]

The way I read it this essentially says you may buy whatever you want unless it’s a registered assault weapon? How would anyone know that ammo is or isn’t for that registered weapon. Also how would an ammunition seller know if you had a registered assault weapon or not? Will NYS share those records? Unconstitutional for sure. I guess she’s dumber than she looks.

What if you have 2 different .22lr rifles, one is a registered AW and the other is a bolt action LOL

 

[RooftopKorean]

If they define any AR platform an Assault Weapon? What happens to people who have the hideous Troy pump AR or Fightlite SCR or their AR based lever action?

If they put the limit on .223/5.56 because it is used in an AW, will people who have Mini-14s, or Ruger Ranchers in .223/5.56 be fucked? Hell... they'd have to put limits on so many centerfire cartridges because many are used on AR15/10 platforms.

 

[Depick]

If I understand this correctly this applies to firearms registered with NY. How do you prove you have a registered firearm? Were you given a card or something? Does this mean someone without proof of a registered firearm is unable to purchase any ammo?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The irony is, once again it's another infringements that fudds won't mind. Hell a fudd was probably consulted in writing it.

Yup that's right just need my 1 box of ammo to make sure I'm holding zero and a few extra bullets past that.

 

[Saltwater60]

I can see it now LEO comes to my house.
LEO KNOCKING
me Yes, what's up up?
LEO, We got a report that you purchased more the 20 rounds of 5.56
me, yeah so what
LEO, that's against the law
Me, no, that's only IF I registered an assault rifle and I don't own any of those.
LEO, what's that in the corner?
ME, Oh, that's a NYS neutered modern sporting rifle.
LEO, can we shoot your dog now?

It’s also only illegal to sell you them not for you to buy them.

 

[Saltwater60]

What if you have 2 different .22lr rifles, one is a registered AW and the other is a bolt action LOL

I can’t speak to that because who knows. These laws are so stupid it’s not even funny. I’m assuming now with the ammo background check the state police can see this and deny the sale.

 

[Saltwater60]

If I understand this correctly this applies to firearms registered with NY. How do you prove you have a registered firearm? Were you given a card or something? Does this mean someone without proof of a registered firearm is unable to purchase any ammo?

As of 4/2023 they will be doing background checks on ammo and I’m assuming this will be part of the check if this passes and you’ll be denied the sale.

 

[Truebeliever]

Well it’s not 20 rounds because in NYC they only allow 5 round mags so in NYC it’s 10 rounds. Yes I’m aware NYC doesn’t allow assault weapons.
The law actually reads two times the magazine capacity.

Good point to remember for the legal challenges if it passes

 

[Mr. terzmo]

"I don't see this going anywhere but anything is possible in this god forsaken state."

Wasn't that the opinion of the"safe act" several years ago. I see it passing as the general opinion of most is: " it doesn't affect me, so I don't give a $shit"

Why would this post make anyone post an "angry" here as what was printed is true. All of US Bitch about various things being done in the Government, but We do nothing. Far easier to type a comment/complaint than initiate some action. It's way to funny...lol

 

[camper4lyfe]

Why would this post make anyone post an "angry" here as what was printed is true. All of US Bitch about various things being done in the Government, but We do nothing. Far easier to type a comment/complaint than initiate some action. It's way to funny...lol

Just taking a SWAG here but I'm going to say the "angry" is more about the bullshit that is the unsafe act than what you wrote.

 

[Depick]

As of 4/2023 they will be doing background checks on ammo and I’m assuming this will be part of the check if this passes and you’ll be denied the sale.

Help me understand this