New (FUAC) compliant AR (NOW with full features)
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
A double action rifle. Nice work around. I just know the price will be prohibative and then legislation would assuredly catch up with it.
Heavy trigger doesnt mean bad trigger.
Colt pythons, or Performance center Smith's supposedly have awesome triggers even at 12lbs
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
No way. That thing will easily be 3k! Have you seen the prices on their other guns? And now you're dealing with a brand new mechanism. This is a package deal. No buying just one half. You'll need both the upper AND lower.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Good point about it being a package deal, @gun_slinger_boy
Call it $2,795.
I'm curious to know how the action works. Charge it / chamber a round and it's SA / DA, the hammer is back on SA after you charge it? Is it DAO? I am mostly a DA / SA guy so don't know much about how DAO works.
Or they could completely fuck this whole deal up and use DAK.
Call it $2,795.
I'm curious to know how the action works. Charge it / chamber a round and it's SA / DA, the hammer is back on SA after you charge it? Is it DAO? I am mostly a DA / SA guy so don't know much about how DAO works.
Or they could completely fuck this whole deal up and use DAK.
Trauma47645
.357 mag
And I'd rather stick forks into my eyes rather than see Fuhrer Cuomo see another day outside of a prison cell..
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Looks like it will work like a slam fire aka open bolt. But since the trigger initiates rearward travel from a closed bolt first instead of just releasing the bolt, it's not a true open bolt design. What I'm curious about is what the locking mechanism will be to keep the bolt from going rearward when the round fires. Probably something pretty simple at the rear that prevents the bolt from moving back while the trigger is pressed. For suppression this would be fantastic. It would be like shooting a can on a bolt action. It should make any can safe at the ear. I still think with the proprietary upper and lower though it will be so expensive that it won't even take off.Good point about it being a package deal, @gun_slinger_boy
Call it $2,795.
I'm curious to know how the action works. Charge it / chamber a round and it's SA / DA, the hammer is back on SA after you charge it? Is it DAO? I am mostly a DA / SA guy so don't know much about how DAO works.
Or they could completely fuck this whole deal up and use DAK.
My Smith 5946 is about 14lbs and it’s smooth and straight-back even after 16 years of heavy use.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If they were smart, they would make it 950.00. They'd sell like hotcakes in NY, CT, CA, MD, and NJ.
@Upstate43 , This is innovation.
SuffolkArms
.40 S&W
Provided they actually decide to sell it to us. They're too scared of PL 265 when it comes to all their other rifles (XO-26, straight-groove reformation).
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I think I’d like some hands on time with one of these. My Troy PAR could use a companion.
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I.hate how much I DONT hate the troy PAR
I'm surprised there isn't much talk about this from shot show yet
Uzi
.308 Win
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I would love to see the action on this gun. I think using pre-loaded leaf springs, linkage and the right geometry that double action pull could be made as smooth as silk at about six pounds. Great innovation on their part, I hope they take it to its full potential.
Could have sworn I posted in this string before, but I don't see it.
Robin
Could have sworn I posted in this string before, but I don't see it.
Robin
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Soon enough you nay not have that option.
@Robin good point; if you can tune a trigger on a DA pistol, why not on a DA rifle? At what I expect the price point on this thing to be, and what I hope is the company's interest in actually... selling some of these to someone, you'd think it would be a no brainer.
Little different than a DA pistol that is just cocking a hammer, this looks to he unlocking and pulling back the bolt and even ejecting the spent casing
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Fair point.
But it can still be tuned to be not so bad
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I think this would make an amazing pistol caliber carbine. I could see the mechanical aspect creating higher effort for the longer case lengths and higher chamber pressures of your average rifle round.
If this thing gets legs and isn't insanely priced, I'll get one. Early adopter concerns aside, I'm very very excited about this.
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If this thing gets legs and isn't insanely priced, I'll get one. Early adopter concerns aside, I'm very very excited about this.
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camper4lyfe
.308 Win
This would get around CA's "AWB" and crazy Feinstein's proposed bill that explicitly talks about using some of the expelled gas to cycle the rounds. Since this doesn't use the gas, it avoids that mess.
I'm not sure how that would work in NY since that part's not written out/defined.
I'm not sure how that would work in NY since that part's not written out/defined.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I really don't know anything about Franklin Arsenals' track record as far as gun making goes, though I do have one of their tumblers that works well and as advertised. I hope some of the movers and shakers in the industry, or even a garage gunsmith, will get ahold of these guns and be inspired to take this concept to its ideal.
Robin
Robin
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I stand corrected. I didn't recall seeing it written into the crap act.
Wasnt in the safe act, we did have gun laws before the safe act. It is Article 265 Penal Law
Uzi
.308 Win
Well looks like it would be good to go then because in that definition it clearly states that the semi auto function needs to "utilize a portion of energy of a firing cartridge or shell to extract the fired cartridge". Which is the case for most any semi automatic definition that I've ever seen.
The representative showed in the shot show video I posted that the gun does NOT do that at all. Once a round is fired it stays in the chamber until you pull the trigger, then and only then, the shell manually ejects like a "bolt action". So Franklin did not overlook that key aspect.
They need to be mindful of the small demographic and keep the price worth it
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
Yeah. These aren't exactly going to fly off the shelves in most of the US. I'd like to see a price point comparable to the Troy, myself. Though, I could be persuaded up as far as $1200... Above that it becomes difficult to justify for me personally. Not to rule it out completely, though.
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