No More Gun Laws In Oregon

[Chevusa]

And as it has been pointed out already, Sanctuary doesn't mean anything to the Feds. All it means is that LOCAL officials are NOT Assisting the Feds with Deportation and Enforcement efforts. That does NOT mean Feds don't have the authority. All this Sanctuary City BS has just made the job of ICE harder. It has not made them close up shop. They absolutely have 100% Authority regardless of any local ordinance. It is the same reason Marijuana shops and growers CAN be arrested on Federal charges even though the State has legalized or decriminalized it. Just because the Feds CHOOSE not to pursue something, does not mean they have relinquished their right to do it. And you can bet Asses to Teakettles, Balls to Bones... IF the BATFE wants to pursue charges against someone for violating Federal Firearms laws, they damn sure will. And NO state or local law is going to able to stop it. Hell, I've seen the Feds take over criminal cases just to get a more extreme sentence. So don't ever think that a Sanctuary Law (Which aren't even laws per se) or local directive makes someone untouchable. In 2019 over 267,000 people were deported by ICE...

I get all that. I have a better knowledge and understanding than most.

The point is they are goingdown the path that the Dems set. They are finally playing dirty. This law will pass and then force action. Action of who remains to be seen. It is sending a strong and clear message and is long over due.

stay tuned.

 

[Chevusa]

The Feds set up Randy Weaver, killed his wife, child, cousin, dog, and shot his other kid all over two shotguns, you really think their gonna sit back and let this fly ?

Yup. Except now they are doing exactly what the Dems did. It’s not uncharted territory anymore. Precedents have been set. Gloves are off.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

They are using the president that federal laws do not apply. Just as they do not for illegal immigrants. There wouldn't need to be an FFL. Anyone can open up shop and sell to anyone. The groundwork is already there. They are just expanding it to guns now.

PRECEDENT

 

[Chevusa]

PRECEDENT

Autocorrect

 

[Blimey]

I stopped at 1:20. They got 1100 signatures for something that will never pass and, if it did, would be impotent anyway as gun laws are partially at local level but mainly at state and federal, which they are not exempt from.

 

[dsdmmat]

They are using the president that federal laws do not apply. Just as they do not for illegal immigrants. There wouldn't need to be an FFL. Anyone can open up shop and sell to anyone. The groundwork is already there. They are just expanding it to guns now.

Good luck getting FFLs or distributors to go along with that.

 

[Chevusa]

Have to see how it goes. What the language of law looks like.
What directives are issued by DOJ
What the county/state will do to support it
need to wait and see. Too many unknowns. Going in the right direction though. More and more good decisions and people saying enough.

For all we know AG Barr will say to let them be.

the point is it’s finally starting to swing the other way. Hope Trump gets the nationwide carry law that is in congress passed after we take back our country in November.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

the point is it’s finally starting to swing the other way. Hope Trump gets the nationwide carry law that is in congress passed after we take back our country in November.

I think Biden has a better recollection of that than Trump at this point.

 

[Chevusa]

I think Biden has a better recollection of that than Trump at this point.

So let’s remind him

nothing like the current time to show how important it is

 

[Acer-m14]

sounds like there trying to use the Marijuana play book ..

 

[Mr. terzmo]

As nice as this would be to have the 2A applied in the manner to which it was intended, I doubt highly this defense will hold up in court. Because you can guarantee the Feds WILL arrest people and put a stop to it...

Question...if there is no State law...How does this get processed through the "State" system? How can an arrest be affected? Feds can only support Fed laws and if nothing is reported..they have to go "fish"

 

[Edwardteach72]

Good thing this worked in Kansas and 2 dudes didnt get hemmed up for owning a suppressor

Ruling: Kansas gun law no defense to federal firearm charges

An appeals court has upheld the firearms convictions against two Kansas men who mistakenly believed that a Kansas law can shield from federal prosecution anyone owning firearms made, sold and kept in the state.

apnews.com

 

[holdover]

Its almost as if they want to arm Antifa with high grade weapons.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Question...if there is no State law...How does this get processed through the "State" system? How can an arrest be affected? Feds can only support Fed laws and if nothing is reported..they have to go "fish"

The FBI arrests people on a daily basis nationwide for all kinds of federal crimes. No State participation required.

 

[vago]

Oregon , why not to move at there?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

The FBI arrests people on a daily basis nationwide for all kinds of federal crimes. No State participation required.

AND they would go to a federal court for a federal crime..not a State crime...They would be out of their jurisdiction to apprehend on a State charge. No stae law..no harm..no foul

 

[BDinPutnam]

AND they would go to a federal court for a federal crime..not a State crime...They would be out of their jurisdiction to apprehend on a State charge. No stae law..no harm..no foul

The point is they'd be enforcing federal laws?

 

[Podmonkey]

Unfortunately the FFLs in the county will still have to comply with federal laws or risk losing their licenses and getting arrested on federal crimes.

SBRs, SBSs and "solvent traps" would be in play though. Not to mention unrestricted transfers of NFA stuff privately.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

The point is they'd be enforcing federal laws?

understood..but the topic is no STate gun laws...not fed

 

[nortatoga]

And then there is the Oregon State Police, this is just a County is it not?

 

[BDinPutnam]

SBRs, SBSs and "solvent traps" would be in play though. Not to mention unrestricted transfers of NFA stuff privately.

Low hanging fruit for the feds.

 

[Shadow2]

Illegals are still being arrested by feds in sanctuary cities all it means is the local government wont assist in arrests or prosecution in any way.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Low hanging fruit for the feds.

Didn’t the Feds make arrests a while back on consumers who bought suppressors manufactured in a state ( Don’t remember which state) that passed laws that certain NFA items were legal if produced in the state?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Guys/Gals...State law and Fed law......Two different jurisdictions..topic is State

 

[Robin]

Sound suppressors, another victimless crime. Book'm Danno, no hearing!
Robin

 

[Edwardteach72]

Didn’t the Feds make arrests a while back on consumers who bought suppressors manufactured in a state ( Don’t remember which state) that passed laws that certain NFA items were legal if produced in the state?

I posted about it

 

[Edwardteach72]

Good thing this worked in Kansas and 2 dudes didnt get hemmed up for owning a suppressor

Ruling: Kansas gun law no defense to federal firearm charges

An appeals court has upheld the firearms convictions against two Kansas men who mistakenly believed that a Kansas law can shield from federal prosecution anyone owning firearms made, sold and kept in the state.

apnews.com

Didn’t the Feds make arrests a while back on consumers who bought suppressors manufactured in a state ( Don’t remember which state) that passed laws that certain NFA items were legal if produced in the state?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Guys/Gals...State law and Fed law......Two different jurisdictions..topic is State

Well. OK. On that point I imagine the state constitution has a supremacy clause prohibiting local jurisidictions from pre-empting state laws.

They may as well pass a law saying you're exempt from state income tax.