Now that we won NYSRPA V Bruen, what comes next ?

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Really?
so dumb, related to the course.

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I have 2 questions I'm a nyc green permit card holder premise license. My questions are what happens to our purchase order requests if city has no permit jurisdiction and will we still need rifle permit. The Sullivan law is struck down from my understanding, does that mean people can go in the store in NYC and buy a gun with just a driver license? 2008 heller case says you can keep gun in home for self defense, does that mean in nyc we will be able to legally keep gun in home with no permit at all?
 
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Onegunnotenough said:
I have 2 questions I'm a nyc green permit card holder premise license. My questions are what happens to our purchase order requests if city has no permit jurisdiction and will we still need rifle permit. The Sullivan law is struck down from my understanding, does that mean people can go in the store in NYC and buy a gun with just a driver license? 2008 heller case says you can keep gun in home for self defense, does that mean in nyc we will be able to legally keep gun in home with no permit at all?
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Sullivan was NOT struck down. The “good cause” requirement was. You still have to have a permit.
 
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Onegunnotenough said:
I have 2 questions I'm a nyc green permit card holder premise license. My questions are what happens to our purchase order requests if city has no permit jurisdiction and will we still need rifle permit. The Sullivan law is struck down from my understanding, does that mean people can go in the store in NYC and buy a gun with just a driver license? 2008 heller case says you can keep gun in home for self defense, does that mean in nyc we will be able to legally keep gun in home with no permit at all?
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Sullivan law wasn't struck down.

SCOTUS vacated the 2nd Circuit ruling upholding it, and ordered them to reconsider their verdict considering carry by the public in public is as constitutionally protected right as the rest of the bill of rights.
 
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Edwardteach72 said:
Just a quick update.

I see @livingston did an update thread on California's AWB case, Miller V Bonta.. (fist bump, these are the threads we need right now)

But im going to do a quick update on California's Magazine ban, aka Duncan v Bonta.

So this is the case that Judge Benitez (district court) ruled that magazines could not be banned (paraphrasing) which lead to what is known in California as "freedom week"...

California did not like this so they appealed to the 9th Circuit.. twist was, a 3 judge panel actually agreed with Judge Benitez to protect magazines..

Following this, California appealed once again.. in doing so the case was put on hold awaiting NYSRPA v Bruen ruling.. well this case has now been remanded back down to the lower courts.. This means the only thing keeping California's ban on magazines in place is Judge Benitez's stay on his own ruling..


TL;DR the only thing banning magazines in California is Judge Benitez's stay on his own ruling. He can at any point (and probably will) remove his stay.
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And before anyone asks. No. This does not mean NY will automatically be able to get standard cap mags. This is the 9th circuit and who would be affected.

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gun_slinger_boy said:
And before anyone asks. No. This does not mean NY will automatically be able to get standard cap mags. This is the 9th circuit and who would be affected.

Alaska
Arizona
Central District of California
Eastern District of California
Northern District of California
Southern District of California
Guam
Hawaii
Idaho
Montana
Nevada
Northern Mariana Islands
Oregon
Eastern District of Washington
Western District of Washington
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Correct... and the same(ish) will be said about NJ magazine ban case (3rd Circuit)

But both can and will be used to make a case against NY magazine ban in the very very very near future
 
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Edwardteach72 said:
Just a quick update.

I see @livingston did an update thread on California's AWB case, Miller V Bonta.. (fist bump, these are the threads we need right now)

But im going to do a quick update on California's Magazine ban, aka Duncan v Bonta.

So this is the case that Judge Benitez (district court) ruled that magazines could not be banned (paraphrasing) which lead to what is known in California as "freedom week"...

California did not like this so they appealed to the 9th Circuit.. twist was, a 3 judge panel actually agreed with Judge Benitez to protect magazines..

Following this, California appealed once again.. in doing so the case was put on hold awaiting NYSRPA v Bruen ruling.. well this case has now been remanded back down to the lower courts.. This means the only thing keeping California's ban on magazines in place is Judge Benitez's stay on his own ruling..


TL;DR the only thing banning magazines in California is Judge Benitez's stay on his own ruling. He can at any point (and probably will) remove his stay.
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Well that sure is interesting.
 
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watched a video earlier .. Cali is now banning CNC machines that make guns .. unless you have a FFL manufacturing license ..

OKAY .. bruen again .. is my thinking correct ..

history / text / tradition .. thats all they got now ...


wonder if the gun makers in the 1700's , 1800's had FFL manufacturing licensed .. i dont think they had them back then ,,

BYE BYE FFL BS



the cali video ..

 
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I always thought it was BS that you'd need to be a FFL to make your OWN guns.

That's just like the government telling you that you can't build your own widget for your own personal use.

I know of a few talented machinists that have made their own gun parts to entire guns from solid chunks of metal.
 
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Acer-m14 said:
watched a video earlier .. Cali is now banning CNC machines that make guns .. unless you have a FFL manufacturing license ..

OKAY .. bruen again .. is my thinking correct ..

history / text / tradition .. thats all they got now ...
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While still bullshit, they are not going after all CNC, just ones used exclusively for lower manufacture, e.g. Ghostgunner. If I lived in Cali, My 4 axis mill would be fine (I paid less, for 100X more machine), but then again I cant set it on my desk.
There is a very simple solution; The ghost gunner can accept gcode and technically can make anything that fits in its envelope. Cody Wilson could set up a sister website with no reference to DD, selling just his CNC machine calling it "Desktop CNC" with a bunch of pictures of it making chess pieces, knickknacks, etc.
That particular product would then be Cali legal as its not used exclusively or marketed for gun manufacture. I am sure Wilson would spend the very small setup costs just to mess with Cali.
 
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