NY stopping issuing permits for around 7+ months??

[Truebeliever]

No, you are talking about what is.

The rest of us realize that the way things are is an utter failure, and we should be talking about what should be.

Again, it’s what is that we have to work with.

 

[Saltwater60]

If anyone has a state renewal up in the next year, RENEW NOW on the state police website. I don't know about after 9/1, but mine renewed no problem. You can renew up to a year early. It buys you 3 years until you have to take the course. I cannot imagine the landscape looking the same in 3 years, I think they will get smacked down hard way earlier than that.

I thought there was a thing that said if you were up you had one year to renew in the law. I could be wrong since there is so much going around. So I wouldn’t expect your renewable to get you the three or five years you’re planning

 

[John Stark]

Maybe if NYers weren't total cucks they would throw those permission slips in the trash and refuse to keep playing the rigged game.

Nah, they'll just line up to get their semi-auto permission slips like good little Tories!

You don't beat the the local mobster gambling house by sitting at the roulette table and tossing more money onto the bet. You get off your ass and stop freaking playing.

 

[zorro]

Maybe if NYers weren't total cucks they would throw those permission slips in the trash and refuse to keep playing the rigged game.

Nah, they'll just line up to get their semi-auto permission slips like good little Tories!

You don't beat the the local mobster gambling house by sitting at the roulette table and tossing more money onto the bet. You get off your ass and stop freaking playing.

so I assume you open carry everywhere and walk through Manhattan with an AR hanging over your shoulder to stop you being a NY cuck?

 

[John Stark]

so I assume you open carry everywhere and walk through Manhattan with an AR hanging over your shoulder to stop you being a NY cuck?

Fuck you pal.

I guarantee YOU don't walk around fucking open carrying anything either, so take your retarded hypocritical "assumptions" and go look in the mirror.

Is that you WillJr? Is that you?

Its assholes just like you that JUMP right quick to get your new permission slip whenever some retard in Albany tells you its time to fork over some more cash and personal information and get back less Liberty and more heartburn in return.

There are 4 million freaking pistol permit holders in this shithole, and if we had the same kind of non-compliance on those former "life-time" permits as we did with Unsafe and registering semi-autos, the assholes in Albany wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind.

I could understand to a certain point when everyone got their life time license to conceal and they could carry almost anywhere (understand but not condone). The hoops to jump through were ridiculous, but then it was a golden ticket. Its not that AT ALL now, its a fucking circus of Tyranny, with jackwagons like you refusing to admit to yourself that you have no balls.

Now we're looking at a license for semi-autos (that will probably be MORE restrictive than hand guns) AND background checks for ammo on top of this shit show, and we have the passive/aggressive NY types like you that can't admit you're a sucker!

You might as well just be honest and say, "Someone won't go immediately and get themselves arrested. so my conscience is now clear and I can stand in line for my State rectal exam and continue to go along to get along."

This state is like it is because people like you are nothing but bootlickers. Some Bitch in Albany says jump through these hoops and NYers say "Yes ma'am!"

I don't have to go do anything that would OBVIOUSLY put me in the clink just because you can't handle the fucking truth.

Compliance with this bullshit is cowardice. So go get your bootlicking permission slip and shut the fuck up about it already!

 

[NY Chamorro]

What are you prepared to do about it?

Get out and vote!!!

 

[NY Chamorro]

I figured FUKH would be another Cuomo but with saggy tits.

Come to find out, FUKH is a bigger asshole than FUAC. Uglier too.

Maybe her tits are pierced also!!!

 

[NY Chamorro]

When you're a conservative and in the minority you look for ways to comply. Just sit back and await your orders. Me, I'm land hunting right now in a red state.

I wouldn't worry about any recertification. Let them come for you. In my case the 65,000 or so permit holders in my county of nearly a million. That's 6.5%. We are clearly in the minority. They don't have the resources to do it anyway. They rely on you being compliant.

NY isn't a 2A state, its not even a hunting state anymore. Any firearms owned here are held by less than 10% of the state population. We have no public state ranges like in PA here. Hunting clubs and private ranges is all there is and there isn't a load of people looking to join anyway. We are a small community. You all know I'm telling the truth here. Yes, it's a tough pill to swallow. But face it, NY is done. Years ago it even outlawed militias for god sake so you can't even form one legally. lol

NY should be a lesson to all the other states in the union on what an out of control, self anointed bureaucracy can do to good tax paying citizens.


Everyone here needs to plan their escape. Housing and land prices will crash hard in some of these red states. Be ready to capitalize on it.

Staying here will only result in you getting tax, subjugated by political powers that buy votes of lazy people using your money.

Get out before they left an exit tax.

Your first paragraph, is what I’ve been saying for a long time..,.Conservatives don’t care as long as it doesn’t bother them, that’s the problem!!!! Conservatives are the majority, we just need to band together, and that goes for you FUDs

 

[Acer-m14]

went on a search .. "burning pistol permits" i know there was a few protests that people did this yrs ago .. only found this one so far

oh and swapping guns too .. a vid there LOL ..

Gun Owners Defy Washington Background Check Law as Rally Organizer Burns His Carry Permit

YouTube Screen Capture Organizers of the "I Will Not Comply" rally promised mass defiance of Washington's new universal background check…

reason.com

 

[Mr. terzmo]

The permit will require a written test and a live course of fire. What the course will be hasn’t come down yet. There are exceptions written into the law such as people who qualified in the military

is this for permit applicants or more crap for current permit holders ?

 

[Doc8404]

And what can you do about

If they dont issue permits for 7 months - what can you do?

Continue to carry until an issue develops and you get "caught" and then face the consequences of that - potential fine, jail and 100% certain job loss (at least for me anyway)

So I am afraid not a lot I can do about it really, without risking my whole livelihood


And my NY permit (issued by Oneida County) actually expires 10/1....................so this does impact me................which actually raises an interesting point

What happens with guns that you currently own and your permit expires like mine and they will not issue a new permit till 7/8 months later??

Thankfully I also have a CT and FL permit, so I can get around that, but what about guys that only have a NY permit...............are they going to come after you?

how does a CT and FL permit help?
You still can’t with your NY permit

 

[Grimscale]

is this for permit applicants or more crap for current permit holders ?

Supposedly when you recertify/renew (not sure if it is just a recertification or a renewal) you will also be required to pass all of the egregious requirements as if you were applying initially.
So you will need a 16 hours course and 2 hours of live fire training, AND you will need to provide your social media information, etc.

And, for those who say "I'm just moving my guns out of state", remember, if they pull your permit they will most likely also brand you a felon, thus eliminating your Right Nationwide. (yes, I am one who will most likely be moving my guns out of State until this bullshit is thrown out, or I can move out, or I die)

 

[nortatoga]

More Unconstitutional Gun Laws & NY Leads the Way ~ VIDEO

Since Supreme Courts' carefully written decision, appointed New York Governor Hochul has pushed a package of unconstitutional gun laws...

www.ammoland.com

Read more: One NY County’s Struggle With Hochul’s New Gun Law
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I recently spoke to someone in the court system who has direct knowledge from Saratoga County Judge Murphy. According to the source, the leaked email excerpt was not Judge Murphy or Saratoga County Sheriff Zurlo’s decision. It was the suggestion of an Attorney at the State Sheriff’s Office which was passed on to Saratoga County among others. Judge Murphy and Sheriff Zurlo basically said, “thanks but no thanks,” and have no plans to delay or hinder the permitting process in Saratoga County. This includes the requirement to “meet with the Judge” to determine “good moral character.” Will other New York Counties take the same approach?

The Saratoga County Sheriff and Judge do not agree with the recommendation from the Sheriff Council Lawyer. The Saratoga County Sheriff and Judge are proceeding with the teaching of the classes, issuing licenses, and keeping the pipeline open. I was told there will be no stoppage of the issuing of permits during this time.

 

[Cooolone]

Fuck NY!

 

[Truebeliever]

is this for permit applicants or more crap for current permit holders ?

It’s both. Current permit holders have to get the training before they can renew the permit unless they fall under one of the exceptions.
It’s my understanding ( which can be wrong) that a lot of the prior training we have had can count toward the new requirement of training hours.

 

[GOPerfect]

I read through some of this. Is he saying all of NY State? Erie County has not stopped or slowed down the process at all, as of yet anyway. This is something that I know as fact.

 

[Zerex]

Look, with all the unconstitutional regs set up by Hochul, and not cancelled yet by the Courts...what did you expect???
Without the Courts, the actual time for a cc permit is years, if not NEVER,EVER.

A Review of social media records by our local Country judge and a personal interview with him WOULD TAKE MONTHS TO SET UP, let alone HOW TO DO IT without hiring Law Clerks for the Judge.

Hochul and 80% Letitia planned all this to fuck us................be glad you got your permit long ago.

People who do not have a pistol now, generally did not want one badly enough to apply. I know plenty of them, and most do not even own a shotgun, but like the idea of a pistol.
I do not anticipate a surge in applications for some time.

 

[ManualF150]

Look, with all the unconstitutional regs set up by Hochul, and not cancelled yet by the Courts...what did you expect???
Without the Courts, the actual time for a cc permit is years, if not NEVER,EVER.

A Review of social media records by our local Country judge and a personal interview with him WOULD TAKE MONTHS TO SET UP, let alone HOW TO DO IT without hiring Law Clerks for the Judge.

Hochul and 80% Letitia planned all this to fuck us................be glad you got your permit long ago.

People who do not have a pistol now, generally did not want one badly enough to apply. I know plenty of them, and most do not even own a shotgun, but like the idea of a pistol.
I do not anticipate a surge in applications for some time.

If you read the fine print, those of us that already have permits already are getting screwed too. Even worse because some of us went from unrestricted, to restricted [criminals] on a late Friday evening by the stroke of a pen.

Permit or no permit doesn't mean jackshit to these politicians. Anyone that wants a gun for anything is a criminal in their minds.

How this hasn't been reverted is beyond me (and others on here), but yet, because it is NYS, it doesn't surprise me one bit.

Numerous people have asked me if anything is going to happen to what FUKH signed in that Friday evening is beyond me. I see what I see in the news and what I read on here. This forum has the most information regarding what is and what will happen. You all can make your own decision from that information.

Am I optimistic something will happen? Eh, I'm not sure yet enough to make a decision. Not enough evidence shows what will happen. There are a lot of lawsuits right now, but of course that all takes time and you all know they like to drag their feet in hopes we all give up.

However, I'm not sitting on laurels, I'm donating to gun rights organizations, writing and calling politicians, and vocalizing my concerns on here.

You better believe that these politicians, including their constituents and lawyers are reading this forum.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

A Review of social media records by our local Country judge and a personal interview with him WOULD TAKE MONTHS TO SET UP, let alone HOW TO DO IT without hiring Law Clerks for the Judge

Nevermind the "mental health" turnover rate after any of them read just one of the fake social media histories that I'm selling for $1.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Ya'all think I'm kidding, lol.

 

[Acer-m14]

More Unconstitutional Gun Laws & NY Leads the Way ~ VIDEO

Since Supreme Courts' carefully written decision, appointed New York Governor Hochul has pushed a package of unconstitutional gun laws...

www.ammoland.com

Read more: One NY County’s Struggle With Hochul’s New Gun Law
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook

I recently spoke to someone in the court system who has direct knowledge from Saratoga County Judge Murphy. According to the source, the leaked email excerpt was not Judge Murphy or Saratoga County Sheriff Zurlo’s decision. It was the suggestion of an Attorney at the State Sheriff’s Office which was passed on to Saratoga County among others. Judge Murphy and Sheriff Zurlo basically said, “thanks but no thanks,” and have no plans to delay or hinder the permitting process in Saratoga County. This includes the requirement to “meet with the Judge” to determine “good moral character.” Will other New York Counties take the same approach?

The Saratoga County Sheriff and Judge do not agree with the recommendation from the Sheriff Council Lawyer. The Saratoga County Sheriff and Judge are proceeding with the teaching of the classes, issuing licenses, and keeping the pipeline open. I was told there will be no stoppage of the issuing of permits during this time.

the Sheriff and Judge there should just flip the bird at hocul ... and you know do there oath thing ..

pistol permits available 8am to 5pm mon - fri ..

you only need to answer 1 question .. can you pass a nics check .. yes sir .,. here is your permit ..

 

[nortatoga]

Official responds from Judge Murphy Saratoga County and Sheriff Zurlo.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

It’s both. Current permit holders have to get the training before they can renew the permit unless they fall under one of the exceptions.
It’s my understanding ( which can be wrong) that a lot of the prior training we have had can count toward the new requirement of training hours.

documentation of training is very hard for older people. Exceptions ? Who..what? thanks

 

[ManualF150]

documentation of training is very hard for older people. Exceptions ? Who..what? thanks

Exactly. I know of plenty of people that have enough of a hard time sitting through hunters ed and doing the test just to hunt and there is no 2 hour live fire training. Umm, also no one can touch a pistol in NYS unless they have a permit.

I have a feeling a lot of people are going to lose their pistol permits.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Exactly. I know of plenty of people that have enough of a hard time sitting through hunters ed and doing the test just to hunt and there is no 2 hour live fire training. Umm, also no one can touch a pistol in NYS unless they have a permit.

I have a feeling a lot of people are going to lose their pistol permits.

I was going to say, isn't it a felony to touch a pistol without a permit?

rofl

"FELON! DENIED!"

 

[Truebeliever]

documentation of training is very hard for older people. Exceptions ? Who..what? thanks

I agree with you on that one. One exception is the military qualification. If you qualified in the military, you met the NYS requirement.
I dont know if a Hunter safety course will count toward the training hours.
I don’t know if they will demand a police firearms training certificate from me or not. I have the LEOSA stuff but it might not be as hard a nightmare for me to prove the training hours

 

[Truebeliever]

I was going to say, isn't it a felony to touch a pistol without a permit?

rofl

"FELON! DENIED!"

They made a training exception with a qualified trainer ( whatever that means)

 

[FRB]

I read through some of this. Is he saying all of NY State? Erie County has not stopped or slowed down the process at all, as of yet anyway. This is something that I know as fact.

I should get my CCW EC permit application in ASAP... I was going to hold off till all this passes, but that way be a mistake.

 

[FRB]

Then again, I like my current permit the constitution. Been ignoring devil worshipping Albany NY for a all time.

 

[GOPerfect]

I should get my CCW EC permit application in ASAP... I was going to hold off till all this passes, but that way be a mistake.

If you do put it in, send me a private message with all of your pertinent information