Marine Cpl
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Only if it's a mistrial and not a "not guilty" verdict you idiot.
Sometime tell him that since he blocks those that make him look stupid with facts.
NY veteran facing 21 years for having standard Glock magazines
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Sometime tell him that since he blocks those that make him look stupid with facts.
Dr. Evil
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This is a serious question man. Why not just voice your opinion/points in a clear concise respectful manner instead of coming across like a better than thou pompous ass? Not saying you are one, just saying that's how you come across.
Marine Cpl
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Oh. Your back and can read my posts again. Couldn't help yourself. Let's meet up.
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There is nothing "serious" about NYS residents advocating ignoring their responsibilities as law abiding citizens and letting a criminal off the hook because they don't like the law.
If I toss some sarcasm their way, that's what they deserve for advocating disobediance of the law.
I was schooled in NY, K through 18 and I never heard any educator say that if we New Yorkers didn't like some law we could just ignore it.
There are ways to change laws. Once we stop doing it the right way, we devolve into mob rule and anarchy.
If/when you disobey black letter law, are indicted and tried you best hope I'm not on the jury because I will vote guilty.
If you have some REAL extenuating circumstances the judge can modify the worst case sentence down to a slap on the wrist.
That's how the law works.
If I toss some sarcasm their way, that's what they deserve for advocating disobediance of the law.
I was schooled in NY, K through 18 and I never heard any educator say that if we New Yorkers didn't like some law we could just ignore it.
There are ways to change laws. Once we stop doing it the right way, we devolve into mob rule and anarchy.
If/when you disobey black letter law, are indicted and tried you best hope I'm not on the jury because I will vote guilty.
If you have some REAL extenuating circumstances the judge can modify the worst case sentence down to a slap on the wrist.
That's how the law works.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's how you work because according to you, any law is Constitutional. Not so for us. Enough jury nullifications and the law is invalid.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Very nice of you to teach me how "the law" works. Also, nice to know that you wouldn't think twice about voting guilty for an otherwise law abiding gun owner that had more than 10 rounds in their magazine. Says a lot. The way the UnSafe Act was rammed down our throats as well as how Cuomo threatened those with their constituents funds for not voting for it falls under "extenuating circumstances." This law is so ambiguous that it doesn't even come close to being black letter. Sarcasm is one thing, being condescending is another. Now, back to your responsibilities as a law abiding citizen. I prefer to look at the responsibilities of the political hacks who are supposed to represent me and uphold the constitution instead of following along willingly with the infringement.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
doc, nothing was rammed down your throat. the elected reps and cuomo passed it. absent a successful court challenge, it remains nys law.
if i'm on a jury and the da demonstrates the guy in the box violated the law, i am required to vote guilty.
what the loons on the site advocate is selecting the laws you like and vote to support them. great thinking. say i really dislike jews and one is murdered by a white christian man. well of course i vote not guilty as i don't like jews having equal protection under the law, no do i ?
scary that people so quick to ignore the law have guns!
if i'm on a jury and the da demonstrates the guy in the box violated the law, i am required to vote guilty.
what the loons on the site advocate is selecting the laws you like and vote to support them. great thinking. say i really dislike jews and one is murdered by a white christian man. well of course i vote not guilty as i don't like jews having equal protection under the law, no do i ?
scary that people so quick to ignore the law have guns!
Marine Cpl
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And say the state passes a law saying that Jews have to sit on the back of the bus. Would you still vote guilty when one decides to sit up front?
That's the whole reason a jury was invented you idiot. Read the article.
Hang the Jury and Nullify Bad Law - Niagara Falls Reporter
willie i did read it. nowhere does it say jury nullification takes the law off the books JUST LIKE I SAID.
the fact that the attorney writing it is obviously willing to represent tough cases, does not change the fact that juries don't legislate!
the fact that the attorney writing it is obviously willing to represent tough cases, does not change the fact that juries don't legislate!
If this is what you actually believe I have good news for you. My time machine is almost complete and will give you the first ride in it. You can go back and Rosa Parks to sit in the back of the Fucking bus. What your not accepting in your agreement is a civil rights violation is a civil rights violation. Us not being able to use common/modern firearms to adequately defend ones self and family against threats is probably the most personal civil rights violation there is. Because I live in the state of my birth I am no longer allowed to use the same weaponry to protect my family that I used to protect this great country. Do you see a problem with this? Do you even understand why this is such an important issue?
Dr. Evil
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The message of necessity was used, the reps had less than an hour to read and digest 87 pages of the bill and I know for a fact from one politician that voted no, Cuomo told those who voted no would lose funding in their area. Oh yeah, and then Diaz said the law would not do ANYTHING to reduce crime but he was going to vote yes anyway. Yeah, no ramming there. Your argument comparing this unconstitutional law to Jewish people getting murdered is a straw man argument. Not even close to being similar. BTW, I am more scared of the gun owners who are quick to follow the UnSafe Act than those gun owners that would be quick to not pay much attention to it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Then you suffer from lack of comprehension.
Guys, I am not disagreeing that the law sucks, BUT IT IS THE LAW.
You may ignore it and bear the consequences.
OR
You may work through your represenatives and the courts to change it.
Those are the only choices ..... chose with wisdom or you could end up with a life destroyed.
BTW the M-16 I defended with had a full auto selector which I could own had I the wish in my free state homes.
That too is illegal in NY ...... lots on your plate to ignore/remedy !
You may ignore it and bear the consequences.
OR
You may work through your represenatives and the courts to change it.
Those are the only choices ..... chose with wisdom or you could end up with a life destroyed.
BTW the M-16 I defended with had a full auto selector which I could own had I the wish in my free state homes.
That too is illegal in NY ...... lots on your plate to ignore/remedy !
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Did you have a ridiculous scope on that M16?
Dr. Evil
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"Bare" Mr. NY Edumication 
. Our representatives have been bought and sold although I will do what I can legally in that regard. I would say there are 2 1/2 choices. Stand for something or fall for anything.
. Our representatives have been bought and sold although I will do what I can legally in that regard. I would say there are 2 1/2 choices. Stand for something or fall for anything.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I've carried an M16A2, M4, M249 Saw, M60, M240 Bravo, and M240 Golf. None of those without scopes like you put on all your guns.
GUNSICK
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Didn't they just prosecute a old Nazi guard last year?
holdover
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That faggots isn't good enough to shine my boots. I hear your abetting man styer fag. How much money do you want to put down big mouth?
spat
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My responsibility (and everyine involved with any level of government) to the Constitution is greater than my responsibility to NY. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
spat
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So, I think you should get your self arrested for breaking the State law and then fight it on the federal level. Since you feel since a level of responsibility....
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You'd be a fool to do that unless everyone is behind you. They aren't so in the end all you can do is do what you do behind closed doors.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Nah, no need to charge head first into enemy fire. Flank them.
If I win the lottery big I'll sue to get my money back on my permit, since you can't license a right. Promise.
There are plenty of ways to fight this stuff without exposing yourself to enemy fire. And calling some guy a coward because he won't charge a machinegun nest without some cover is disgusting.
Robin
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You make a good point Spat. Where are all the souls with deep pockets in this fight to restore our constitution? Really, is there no Sorus that believes in the fundamental concept of freedom as outlined by our fathers, the preamble at least?!?!?!?
Robin
Robin
That would be the nra. Sarcasm
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The refugee ban that literally affected nobody in the country had 3 federal injunctions against it in a month, despite being clearly within the power of the president. SAFE OTOH was allowed to infringe on the rights of millions despite having both no realistic benefit, and clearly violating the constitution and established precedent was allowed to sail through with barely no resistance.
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