holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Ive told you already t hat nobody has any argument with that, you want to make an argument of something we already agree on what the fuck is wrong with you?
NY veteran facing 21 years for having standard Glock magazines
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Day444
.223 Rem
Yes, for those still serving it bears merit. But I differ once some one has served and has now been discharged. thus the expiration date. One is no longer held to the obligation of still being under oath.
Yet one can still believe in it's words as do I. It is the premise of the American fighting man. Not in anyway saying that an "Oath Taker" is based on unfounded ideas or sound reasoning.
GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
Never meant it was not earned but rather that he gets better service at the VA's in NY then his home state. Yet still bad mouths NY.
Anyone foolish enough to think we Vets are going to get special treatment from the loon left military hating folks who run NY state is on bad dope.
When the real war starts the draft will be restarted and a whole bunch of assholes will find out they are not special or exceptional.
In the meanrtime the fact that the rent-a-cop is a vet means ZERO nor will he ever get 21 years. Just alarmist shit that's as bad as Pelosit saying millions will die w/o Obumacare.
Some of us are old enough to remember that Lee Harvey Oswald was also a vet. All that did was make him a better shot.
AGAIN nobody on this site is going to break any laws to become a poster boy for gun rights. It's BULLSHIT.
Heck Scat couldn't even get up the nerve to walk through rural Livingston county (where I lived many years) with his big iron on his hip !
KEYBOARD WARRIORS who will never do more than bluster .... count on it !!!!
Like my truck ? No problems with snowflake protestors !
When the real war starts the draft will be restarted and a whole bunch of assholes will find out they are not special or exceptional.
In the meanrtime the fact that the rent-a-cop is a vet means ZERO nor will he ever get 21 years. Just alarmist shit that's as bad as Pelosit saying millions will die w/o Obumacare.
Some of us are old enough to remember that Lee Harvey Oswald was also a vet. All that did was make him a better shot.
AGAIN nobody on this site is going to break any laws to become a poster boy for gun rights. It's BULLSHIT.
Heck Scat couldn't even get up the nerve to walk through rural Livingston county (where I lived many years) with his big iron on his hip !
KEYBOARD WARRIORS who will never do more than bluster .... count on it !!!!
Like my truck ? No problems with snowflake protestors !
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Who cares what Andy thinks or wants to do? If he doesn't let it go and does 7 more trials, we could not let it go as well and one juror can vote, "Not Guilty" in the other 7 trials . Will it happen? No. Why? because there are beaten dogs like yourself in the jury box.
I mean no offense to you specifically but don't tell us to lay down, expose our bellies and vote "Guilty" because it's the law. Fuck that! What's the matter with you? Is that what you want or are you just talking to try to win an argument?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
""AGAIN nobody on this site is going to break any laws to become a poster boy for gun rights. It's BULLSHIT.""
I think a lot of people on this forum have already broke the law. they just don't brag about. That would be a little stupid even for you
I think a lot of people on this forum have already broke the law. they just don't brag about. That would be a little stupid even for you
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Im not going to waste my day off arguing redundant pointless points or meaningless opinions that you guys keeps making .
Im out , have a nice life , cowards
Im out , have a nice life , cowards
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I've challenged you 3 times already. Don't act like you don't click on the tab that says, "Show Ignored Content" and read my posts. Show me that you are the tough guy that you say you are.
PM me. The offer to meet in person still stands.
holdover
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Day444
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Ok, think I see the point you are trying to make. Don't know if "he" comes to NY for VA services. Did you know that there are two zoo's in the Bronx? The one with animals and the one for Veterans.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Are you disrespecting Veterans that go to the VA hospital in the Bronx?
Day444
.223 Rem
Come on you gotta like that bumper. Looks like just the thing to get through NYC traffic!
50 in the left lane? I don't think so!!
This has got to be one of the most ridicoulous threads I have ever been part of. Some of the most stupidest remarks have been typed here in the past week or so. All this because one fool openly broke the law and was caught.
New York Gun laws are stupid and un-Constitutional, we all understand that. Hell, nearly every gun law in the entire US does not fall within the parameters of our Founding Documents.
Fools on here talking about "I live in a free state', really, your States have Zero gun laws? Stop, pure Bullshit. Some may live in Freer States, but no one in America is Free from the overreach of the Government.
The bragging of what one member has over the other is a childish joke as well. I have a horse, I am going big Horn hunting.... Wow, I am so impressed.
Members posting laws and Court cases as if they are to be understood.
Calling others names because they have disdain for the laws, telling them they are cowards because they don't openly break the law, what the fuck is wrong with some of you. Cowards? Pretty strong words from some.
New York Gun laws are stupid and un-Constitutional, we all understand that. Hell, nearly every gun law in the entire US does not fall within the parameters of our Founding Documents.
Fools on here talking about "I live in a free state', really, your States have Zero gun laws? Stop, pure Bullshit. Some may live in Freer States, but no one in America is Free from the overreach of the Government.
The bragging of what one member has over the other is a childish joke as well. I have a horse, I am going big Horn hunting.... Wow, I am so impressed.
Members posting laws and Court cases as if they are to be understood.
Calling others names because they have disdain for the laws, telling them they are cowards because they don't openly break the law, what the fuck is wrong with some of you. Cowards? Pretty strong words from some.
I agree, I haven't posted in this shitfest until now, and it'll be my only one.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
First off lets stop with the name calling it really takes away from the the conversation! Leave that to the (Ignored Member)
Folks here keep saying that this is Unconstitutional! Really has the SCOTUS said that yet?
This is an example to be brought up when I do a County Pistol class! That this is what can and will happen to someone caught in this situation possessing a magazine that can hold more the 10 rds.
So I'm sure no one here would advise for someone to go out with mags that hold more then 10 rds ! Don't worry you have jury-nullification on your side! I don't think those odds are very good!
I'm not trying to win an argument just dealing with the here and now, not the what could be!
You are correct sir, until the Court rules, the Constituionality of it stands stagnant.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Who's name calling? I said, " Beaten like dogs". That's not name calling.
And 2nd. I could care less what SCOTUS says. If all the judges are all Ginsbergs and rule that the 2A is for hunting game when in a militia, does that make it right?
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So a law cannot be unconstitutional until SCOTUS rules on it? If Cuomo passes a law that all guns are banned in NY even hunting rifles and police sidearms, it isn't unconstitutional until SCOTUS decides to rule on it?
I mean as I'm seeing it, it is unconstitutional and SCOTUS reaffirms it if they feel like it.
Correct Will, until the High Court rules, the laws all stand. This is our way of law. There are exceptions, The House and Senate can pass a law to negate a State law and until the Courts rule on that passed law, all stays the way it is.
I see things pretty black and white, if it falls outside of the Founding Documents, it is not Contitutional, but who the hell am I to decide?!
This is beyond funny. Endless posts trying to find some justification to break settled law. Entertaining to talk about but nothing will come of it.
It's like a bunch of old women talking about whose late husband was a better lay. Entertaining but going nowhere.
It's like a bunch of old women talking about whose late husband was a better lay. Entertaining but going nowhere.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I disagree. If they pass laws banning blacks from the front of buses, are you saying the law is the law and it's Constitutional until SCOTUS decides to hear it?
No, because there is already case law to protect that from occurring.
I want to play the other side for a second....
What exactly, what law has been passed in the past 10 years, in NY State, that has violated the 2A? Kind of a trick question, careful how you answer.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
You have no right to free speech on a private forum. I thought you would
Know that? Anyone of us can be censored or kicked off. Just the way it should be.
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ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Seeing how it's not up to Andy after two or three mistrials it would almost certainly be dropped.
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What I have added is as follows:
1. The rent-a-cop is a criminal
2. His being a vet means zero
3. He will not do 21 years
4. If you feel strongly about NY, I gave you 4 choices
Quoting the constitution and calling me names, adds nothing.
Nothing will be changed by being a keyboard warrior. I'm sure George III and George Wallace both wish all they had to deal with was internet hot air.
That said, I know like all OCD types you just HAVE to have the last world .... so enjoy ! Nobody cares.
1. The rent-a-cop is a criminal
2. His being a vet means zero
3. He will not do 21 years
4. If you feel strongly about NY, I gave you 4 choices
Quoting the constitution and calling me names, adds nothing.
Nothing will be changed by being a keyboard warrior. I'm sure George III and George Wallace both wish all they had to deal with was internet hot air.
That said, I know like all OCD types you just HAVE to have the last world .... so enjoy ! Nobody cares.
I'm not in the habit of sticking my neck out for strangers but I've re-read every thread in this post and one thing comes to light immediately.
SteyrAug is speaking what clear minded people are thinking. The ratio of people who say they'll openly and transparently violate Unsafe are so miniscule that they don't bear consideration.
If you're HONESTLY telling me you're willing to get arrested, liquidate the majority of your personal assets to pay legal fees, allow your good name to be run thru the muck in the media, potentially lose your job, see your kids during visiting hours, and abandon your family because of a 17 round Glock magazine my hats off to you.
I look forward to reading about you in the papers, seeing you on the evening news, and pontificating about you on this forum. Only a fool would martyr themselves in such a fashion and honestly believe they've blazed a trail for fellow patriot gun owners.
I've placed bracelets on enough people in my day to know the vast majority of those who lose their freedom deeply second guess their decisions and cry like babies while in the holding cell, getting processed, standing in front of the Judge, or on sentencing day. While I can't say for certain, I suspect the majority of constitutional quoting persons on the forum when faced with the moment of truth would back down. Only YOU know what YOU'D do and if your honest with yourself, you wouldn't think twice about obeying even an unconstitutional law for no other reason than self preservation.
The majority of you aren't going to do jack but comply. Like it or not that's exactly what you'll do. Those of you who claim they won't, lead by example and march into your local Troopers barracks with your non-compliant AR sporting a 30 round magazine and a copy of the U.S. Constitution. When and if you get out on bail....have the balls to stop by here and let us know how you made out. I for one would be interested in knowing.
There are smart ways to fight Unsafe. Find one and move forward.
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