Nontypical
.40 S&W
I’m sure that someone will be advising them tomorrow...
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Wow. 1 gun at 1 dealer.There are NY dealers selling guns with ar maglocks installedSeneca Gun Sports | Firearm Search Detail
senecagun.com
Maybe the birds around here will post the dealers that were raided for selling non compliant guns. Probably not though. They like to talk about them but only when it fits the current narrative.
Just because a dealer sells something doesn’t mean they should have. (See above mentioned raids)
This says it all:
Evolusion Concepts, Inc. (creator & seller) of AR MAGLOCK, is not held responsible for your understanding or interpretation of the laws and regulations.
We will not answer legal questions under any circumstances as we have no legal education or experience. For questions regarding firearm configuration, circumstances, and/or any potential criminal exposure, please contact an experienced local firearm attorney.
They sound real confident in their product. Lol. Basically says use it if you want but if you get caught they know nothing. Very reassuring.
Evolusion Concepts, Inc. (creator & seller) of AR MAGLOCK, is not held responsible for your understanding or interpretation of the laws and regulations.
We will not answer legal questions under any circumstances as we have no legal education or experience. For questions regarding firearm configuration, circumstances, and/or any potential criminal exposure, please contact an experienced local firearm attorney.
They sound real confident in their product. Lol. Basically says use it if you want but if you get caught they know nothing. Very reassuring.
All please keep the personal attacks out of the thread. The current law is so vague on what can be considered compliant only a court case will be able to settle it. Until then what is compliant/ noncompliant is all opinion and conjecture.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
But, but, low hanging fruit!!!!!
Robin
Robin
Nope that's wrong they are clear as day ok what products are legal and are not
Tintalieau
.40 S&W
timboy
.44 mag
Ok tried it out today,not particularly impressed with the way it opens with a red dot on it,it seemed to just pop right open perfect without the optic but it is a new tight gun.
I have decided to go featureless and just ordered spur,ny triggerguard hook and a faux muzzle break without the slots milled all the way through.
I may revisit the mag lock in the future but given the functionality issue and very gray legality it is getting shelved for now.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
FUAC!
timboy
.44 mag
If I had my own property to shoot on this build would be assembled a bit different but I agree.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Is it? What is disassembling?
Dunedain Ranger
.40 S&W
I HAVE my own property to shoot on, and NOBODY can see or find me there. That said, my drive to it is the issue. I have to make sure they are safe act compliant in my trunk on the way there. Once there, on my land, the safe act has no jurisdiction.
Nontypical
.40 S&W
I would think that if the gun is disassembled and the lower is separated from the upper, that alone would make t compliant. Then all it would be was gun parts.
I agree with this but I bet they would use an assumptive possession angle to charge you. If you possess both you are capable of putting them together to have a banned rifle. I think it would be an easy conviction.
spat
.950 JDJ
That's yet another good question that NY has no answer for.
Pretty sure separation into multiple parts is good.
Not sure if just pivoting an upper is enough.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Put the lower in a backpack in the front seat, upper in a rifle case in the trunk. Done.
Wait.... isn't the lower considered the "gun"?
Maybe you should lock the lower in the trunk and keep the upper in a backpack.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Some fellow on here assured us all that no one is going to bother you about your MSR configuration. Somehow, I wasn't reassured.
Robin
Robin
One might say that individual "advised us" ??
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
I realize this is a 2 1/2 year old thread, and this topic has been one of much debate, pain, and suffering, but....................
I've used the Price 50, SAFE Mod, and recently the Cross Armory lock. Of those, the Cross Armory is a little harder to remove and would probably show more in the way of trying to "comply" than the others. It completely removes the mag release button. None of the three will allow the mag to be removed without tools, like some others that will release the mag if the rifle is broke open, which would be a big no. The thing I don't like with the Cross Armory is if you do get a double feed or jam, it's a huge PITA to clear the rifle. If possible, you can try removing the floor plate on the mag, but in certain magazines that's seriously hard to do. A 350 Legend specific 5 round mag as an example- it's too short to be able to get the plate off, the grip gets in the way.
As mentioned, it's all how you feel and your comfort zone. I use my rifles to hunt, so they need to be in compliance. I don't like it, but it's NY and I don't want to be a guinea pig for the system.
My wife and I used to go to an indoor range and neither the Prince 50 or the SAFE Mod got a second glance really. There was a range watcher, who did try to be slick on one occasion. I had the rifle laying on the bench, and he walked over, stating he used the same lock while reaching out to push on the release button to make sure it wasn't functional. I started at him blankly for a second. Then I just burst out a little laugh, I couldn't hold it in.
I've used the Price 50, SAFE Mod, and recently the Cross Armory lock. Of those, the Cross Armory is a little harder to remove and would probably show more in the way of trying to "comply" than the others. It completely removes the mag release button. None of the three will allow the mag to be removed without tools, like some others that will release the mag if the rifle is broke open, which would be a big no. The thing I don't like with the Cross Armory is if you do get a double feed or jam, it's a huge PITA to clear the rifle. If possible, you can try removing the floor plate on the mag, but in certain magazines that's seriously hard to do. A 350 Legend specific 5 round mag as an example- it's too short to be able to get the plate off, the grip gets in the way.
As mentioned, it's all how you feel and your comfort zone. I use my rifles to hunt, so they need to be in compliance. I don't like it, but it's NY and I don't want to be a guinea pig for the system.
My wife and I used to go to an indoor range and neither the Prince 50 or the SAFE Mod got a second glance really. There was a range watcher, who did try to be slick on one occasion. I had the rifle laying on the bench, and he walked over, stating he used the same lock while reaching out to push on the release button to make sure it wasn't functional. I started at him blankly for a second. Then I just burst out a little laugh, I couldn't hold it in.
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
I'm betting there's a lot more to that story than we are getting. I can't find an actual link to this arrest aside from those who have seen the blotter on Facebook.
So what do you do? Keep your MSR's hidden under the floorboards or locked up in a safe? Why don't you enlighten the state of NY what your solution is? Not move, or don't comply, enlighten us with your all-knowing wisdom what the best way to fix the mag in place is.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Old, I hunt with a 350 legend occasionally. I use a ten round magazine withe the round blocker shown.
It will hold three and one in the chamber. The floor plate is easily removed in the case of some kind of a malfunction. I can't remember where I got it, seems like it was for a .556, Goggle should get you there right quick, I just put the .350 follower on it and it works like a champ.
Robin
It will hold three and one in the chamber. The floor plate is easily removed in the case of some kind of a malfunction. I can't remember where I got it, seems like it was for a .556, Goggle should get you there right quick, I just put the .350 follower on it and it works like a champ.
Robin
Hahaha, well, there's no way on earth any LE gets to inspect a firearm for the purpose of compliance outside a warrant!!! There is no "gut" or "hunch" allowance for such a grievous search! Let alone a range officer, I'm sorry, you're not reaching over and touching my firearm without expressed permission! Fuck you very much!
Never had an issue like this, nor would I... Just me, and just sayin'
Never had an issue like this, nor would I... Just me, and just sayin'
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
Most people don't have any issues. That range guy was overly nice the next time we went in there, so much so I got a free box of ammo. I think he knew he messed up.
I really don't think most people are going to have issues unless they are asking for it. Maybe in certain areas of the state where anti's and the average fudd are more dominant. Keep a tidy ship and no reason for the coast guard to want to board the vessel.
Old Jalopy
.45 acp
Not to muddy up or derail the thread, but did you have feeding issues? I ruined a perfectly good PMag that wouldn't feed right and went by something I read on the web about filing off the ribs, and it still had issues. Bought a 5 round a steel mag specific for the 350 and so far only a couple problems in the beginning, but they seem (seem) to have gone away with some use.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I bought a ten round magazine specifically for the 350, use the round blocker for hunting and use the 350 follower that came with the magazine. I never file or alter the lips of my magazines but I do take some 220 then 400 emery paper to the under side edge of the lips in case there might be a burr along the edge from manufacturing, kind of like a well used magazine. I may have had a couple jambs along the way, can't remember for sure though, I have put a few hundred rounds through it. Its' important to use a magazine made specifically for the 350, heck, any caliber used in an AR, while they all fit the Mag Well, they all have differing rib configurations and followers. Good quality Mag is critical for good reliable function in these guns.
Robin
Robin