Options for AR-15 fixed mag

[Robin]

I bought a ten round magazine specifically for the 350, use the round blocker for hunting and use the 350 follower that came with the magazine. I never file or alter the lips of my magazines but I do take some 220 then 400 emery paper to the under side edge of the lips in case there might be a burr along the edge from manufacturing, kind of like a well used magazine. I may have had a couple jambs along the way, can't remember for sure though, I have put a few hundred rounds through it. Its' important to use a magazine made specifically for the 350, heck, any caliber used in an AR, while they all fit the Mag Well, they all have differing rib configurations and followers. Good quality Mag is critical for good reliable function in these guns.
Robin

 

[FP1201]

I bought a ten round magazine specifically for the 350, use the round blocker for hunting and use the 350 follower that came with the magazine. I never file or alter the lips of my magazines but I do take some 220 then 400 emery paper to the under side edge of the lips in case there might be a burr along the edge from manufacturing, kind of like a well used magazine. I may have had a couple jambs along the way, can't remember for sure though, I have put a few hundred rounds through it. Its' important to use a magazine made specifically for the 350, heck, any caliber used in an AR, while they all fit the Mag Well, they all have differing rib configurations and followers. Good quality Mag is critical for good reliable function in these guns.
Robin

FWIW: The magazines for .450BM (and a couple others) use a special follower AND a conventional follower inside what used to be considered a "20 round" Magazine.
What many folks don't realize is a conventional 5.56/.223 magazine will not work with .350 Legend (or the .400 Legend) because of the Bullet guides stamped in the mag body itself.
Also, Ruger uses the same MSR Magazine for their American Rifles in .350

 

[Old Jalopy]

FWIW: The magazines for .450BM (and a couple others) use a special follower AND a conventional follower inside what used to be considered a "20 round" Magazine.
What many folks don't realize is a conventional 5.56/.223 magazine will not work with .350 Legend (or the .400 Legend) because of the Bullet guides stamped in the mag body itself.
Also, Ruger uses the same MSR Magazine for their American Rifles in .350

Yep. I read if you file those guides off a basic 5.56/.223 mag, it would work. For me, it did not. It's a deer rifle so I can only have 5 rounds anyway, so I just ordered two of the designated 5 round steel mags which have the proper follower and no guides. I didn't really think filing the little nubby guides off would work, but gave it a shot all the same. The straight wall cartridges have to utilize a different set of parts in the mags to function properly.

 

[FP1201]

Yep. I read if you file those guides off a basic 5.56/.223 mag, it would work. For me, it did not. It's a deer rifle so I can only have 5 rounds anyway, so I just ordered two of the designated 5 round steel mags which have the proper follower and no guides. I didn't really think filing the little nubby guides off would work, but gave it a shot all the same. The straight wall cartridges have to utilize a different set of parts in the mags to function properly.

Those guides are not in the Feed Lips, they are actually stamped into the side of the magazine body...now if you took a Mill and cut them away leaving slot like windows in the sides, they would likely work.

 

[Old Jalopy]

Those guides are not in the Feed Lips, they are actually stamped into the side of the magazine body...now if you took a Mill and cut them away leaving slot like windows in the sides, they would likely work.

No mill for me, so it was cheaper to buy the dedicated magazines.

 

[nortatoga]

No fixed mag for me!

Ares/Fightlite SCR.

 

[jimc]

No fixed mag for me!

Ares/Fightlite SCR.

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That looks SO much less dangerous than an AR!

 

[FP1201]

That looks SO much less dangerous than an AR!

'bless their heart, they tried.

 

[Old Jalopy]

I like the idea of the Kali Key, but it's too borderline for me to drop $250 on. No tools to make the rifle back to factory specks and non-compliant.

 

[RooftopKorean]

Here's my SCR. Has a faux flash hider spot welded to the barrel.

 

[Old Jalopy]

Came across this while looking up why the MA Lock was discontinued:

New York Sues Mean Arms Over Their AR 15 Magazine Lock » Concealed Carry Inc

Last week, New York Attorney General Letitia James sued firearm accessory manufacturer Mean Arms. The justification for the lawsuit is hard to understand.

www.concealedcarry.com

The dead horse isn't so dead after all.

 

[FP1201]

Order one of these to Hunt with: DuraMag 5X35041178CPD SS 5rd 350 Legend
and this one to target shoot with: DuraMag 1035041178CPD SS 10rd 350 Legend for AR-15
They retail ~$21. and work great!

 

[Old Jalopy]

Order one of these to Hunt with: DuraMag 5X35041178CPD SS 5rd 350 Legend
and this one to target shoot with: DuraMag 1035041178CPD SS 10rd 350 Legend for AR-15
They retail ~$21. and work great!

I picked up a Duramag and a CMMG, both 5 rounds. Not 100% positive, but I think they are actually made in the same factory.

 

[Vapor]

Never could abide a mag lock



Thankfully they don't look like that anymore

 

[1075tech]

I picked up a Duramag and a CMMG, both 5 rounds. Not 100% positive, but I think they are actually made in the same factory.

Both made by C Products.

I have Dura Mags as they were on sale for about $15.

As for "fixed" mags, I have a few listed for sale if anyone is interested.

 

[Old Jalopy]

Never could abide a mag lock

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Thankfully they don't look like that anymore

I have a Gen 3, it's OK. I never found a Gen 2 locally in a shop. One guy said he had one and wanted to trade for a knife I had, but he bailed on the deal. I planned to drop it on the wifes rifle.
I won't order stuff anymore with the new (but actually old) CC tracking and invasion of privacy NY has now.

 

[FP1201]

Both made by C Products.

I have Dura Mags as they were on sale for about $15.

As for "fixed" mags, I have a few listed for sale if anyone is interested.

I have several NOS Bushmaster made, blackened stainless, 5 round mags for the .450BM Rifle; these will also fit 458socom and 50 Beowulf...this isn't an ad to sell, only that I could help a brother out with one or two should they be interested.

 

[Vapor]

I have a Gen 3, it's OK. I never found a Gen 2 locally in a shop. One guy said he had one and wanted to trade for a knife I had, but he bailed on the deal. I planned to drop it on the wifes rifle.
I won't order stuff anymore with the new (but actually old) CC tracking and invasion of privacy NY has now.

They both have normal stocks now. I left ny.

 

[holdover]

I use a dd's ranch lock.

Screw that mask wearing fag. Kicked me out for not wearing one .

 

[1075tech]

I bought a ten round magazine specifically for the 350, use the round blocker for hunting and use the 350 follower that came with the magazine. I never file or alter the lips of my magazines but I do take some 220 then 400 emery paper to the under side edge of the lips in case there might be a burr along the edge from manufacturing, kind of like a well used magazine. I may have had a couple jambs along the way, can't remember for sure though, I have put a few hundred rounds through it. Its' important to use a magazine made specifically for the 350, heck, any caliber used in an AR, while they all fit the Mag Well, they all have differing rib configurations and followers. Good quality Mag is critical for good reliable function in these guns.
Robin

I did find that on the DuraMag 20 round mags, I did have to take the dremel to the front of it. Just a couple of thousandths. It'll just catch the leading edge of the case mouth. Internet suggestions are to also trim back the leading edge of the feed lips, allowing the round to begin to angle into the feed ramp earlier.

 

[Robin]

Screw that mask wearing fag. Kicked me out for not wearing one .

Never been there but he does sell the Prince 50 Magazine lock. This subject of mag locks keeps coming up from time to time, but i thought it was settled, the prince 50 is good to go! Simple and easy to install.
Occasionally I will meet someone at the range with an AR that doesn't have a mag lock and they just figure its not being enforced. I'm not that trusting but to each his own.
Robin

 

[Old Jalopy]

Never been there but he does sell the Prince 50 Magazine lock. This subject of mag locks keeps coming up from time to time, but i thought it was settled, the prince 50 is good to go! Simple and easy to install.
Occasionally I will meet someone at the range with an AR that doesn't have a mag lock and they just figure its not being enforced. I'm not that trusting but to each his own.
Robin

I think it keeps coming up because a lot of people don't want to go to prison for something as stupid and unsafe as locking the magazine in place, and there's no 100% approved method aside from gluing the mag into the lower. Even the latter might not be OK, depending on the given day and who is doing the inspecting. I always figured the MA Lock and Cross Armory Mag Lock were the solid choice for those who wanted a little more permanency if some busybody wanted to have a looksy. But since the MA Lock was discontinued due to our AG suing them over the case that made the CCIA happen, it brings back that wondering. The kid that committed that crime bought a rifle with the MA Lock installed from a shop, then removed it. MA may have had a better chance if they hadn't put the instructions on how to reverse the lock right on the back of the packaging, but the case still happened. So, if that's not OK, then the Prince 50 or the SAFE Mod might not be either for reasons we all know. The best we can do, as mentioned, is go with what makes one feel they are complying and hope any LEO and/or judge see it the same way.

I personally don't care. But I do like to hear other people's thoughts on the topic, as long as they are making some practical contribution. If someone is complying, great. If they stand the ground of FUNY great too, just don't advertise it and don't do stupid shit. I have noticed the number of pictures of the MSR have plummeted more and more over the past 11 years. People don't want to post pictures of rifles that might or might not be in compliance because of ill worded laws and overzealous law enforcement who would actually love to make an example out of them/us. Can't blame them. In fact, I see less and less actual firearm discussions in the past 6-7 years on forums like this and even hunting forums, not sure why that is though.

 

[Zerex]

Lowers are so cheap as to be ridiculous.........................use JB weld, smeared on the sides of a GOOD 10 RD MAG, mag, and insert...........receiver will have to be drilled, heated and destroyed to remove it...........no more LEO's prying on a mag lock and succeeding...should get a pass ,ITSHTF

If law is overturned, just buy a new $90 lower AND SWITCH PARTS.


Anther option is to tig weld the corners of the mag to the receiver, but must use a blocked 20 rd aluminum mag..again a bit of machine work..at least 15 minutes to get it out and deface destroy receiver/mag.

 

[Robin]

I think it keeps coming up because a lot of people don't want to go to prison for something as stupid and unsafe as locking the magazine in place, and there's no 100% approved method aside from gluing the mag into the lower. Even the latter might not be OK, depending on the given day and who is doing the inspecting. I always figured the MA Lock and Cross Armory Mag Lock were the solid choice for those who wanted a little more permanency if some busybody wanted to have a looksy. But since the MA Lock was discontinued due to our AG suing them over the case that made the CCIA happen, it brings back that wondering. The kid that committed that crime bought a rifle with the MA Lock installed from a shop, then removed it. MA may have had a better chance if they hadn't put the instructions on how to reverse the lock right on the back of the packaging, but the case still happened. So, if that's not OK, then the Prince 50 or the SAFE Mod might not be either for reasons we all know. The best we can do, as mentioned, is go with what makes one feel they are complying and hope any LEO and/or judge see it the same way.

I personally don't care. But I do like to hear other people's thoughts on the topic, as long as they are making some practical contribution. If someone is complying, great. If they stand the ground of FUNY great too, just don't advertise it and don't do stupid shit. I have noticed the number of pictures of the MSR have plummeted more and more over the past 11 years. People don't want to post pictures of rifles that might or might not be in compliance because of ill worded laws and overzealous law enforcement who would actually love to make an example out of them/us. Can't blame them. In fact, I see less and less actual firearm discussions in the past 6-7 years on forums like this and even hunting forums, not sure why that is though.

There! That ought to do it!!!!

I'm compliant now.
Robin

 

[Jem45472]

Lowers are so cheap as to be ridiculous.........................use JB weld, smeared on the sides of a GOOD 10 RD MAG, mag, and insert...........receiver will have to be drilled, heated and destroyed to remove it...........no more LEO's prying on a mag lock and succeeding...should get a pass ,ITSHTF

If law is overturned, just buy a new $90 lower AND SWITCH PARTS.


Anther option is to tig weld the corners of the mag to the receiver, but must use a blocked 20 rd aluminum mag..again a bit of machine work..at least 15 minutes to get it out and deface destroy receiver/mag.

Good old jb weld. Dab on the back of the mag catch been keeping the uzi safe from communist NY since the good old Cuomo days.

No need to weld in mag with it, these are harder to come by than a stripped lower.

 

[Old Jalopy]

There! That ought to do it!!!!
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I'm compliant now.
Robin

I like it. Do I need a permit to get one?

 

[FP1201]

Good old jb weld. Dab on the back of the mag catch been keeping the uzi safe from communist NY since the good old Cuomo days.

No need to weld in mag with it, these are harder to come by than a stripped lower.

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I'd have taken off a grip panel, drilled a hole through the receiver and magazine at the ten round limit and popped a rivet in the hole...'course loading it is going to be a pain in the ass, but so is living in NY.

 

[Jem45472]

I'd have taken off a grip panel, drilled a hole through the receiver and magazine at the ten round limit and popped a rivet in the hole...'course loading it is going to be a pain in the ass, but so is living in NY.

Pain in the ass to load either way. Uzi's are great shooters if running right. If any feed issues ever occur, it's either a top plate adjustment or a magazine height adjustment. Didn't want to drill and rivet a mag. I can take the catch off and either grind epoxy off, or just buy a new one for a few bucks.

 

[Robin]

I like it. Do I need a permit to get one?

Only in the Rotten Apple.
Robin