Poll: If you could change one aspect of the current NYS Gun Laws..

[Bushmaster]

As always, the government exercising people control and billing it as gun control. "Do something we don't like and not only will we throw you in jail but you can't vote, serve in the military, or own a gun."

My concern isn't about DUIs or non-violent felons... I'm with you there. My concern is with people who have violent felonies... YES they can get a gun on the street, but does that mean that the government should help them get the same gun? What's the point of any laws at that point? "No, you're not allowed to do that but since you're going to do it anyway here you go."

balancing the protection of everyone's rights gets dicey. The liberals take that conundrum and run away with it.

Hate to post this, but I will only cause drinking beer LOL. I was born with gun and bow in hand. Pic is 1969 I think. Later on in years I was pulled over by worst Sheriff I ever met in life who had rookie with him, on way home from Martial Arts class, He saw Nunchuckus between Corvette seats. He instantly turned to a Scared or freaked out PRICK... I told him I was a student and look behind seats is my Gi and other equipment, NO GO !!! Once handcuffed and in office I was shoved and told if I reached for them he would shove them up my ass or shoot, WTF? Had to get lawyer, go to court in Victor NY, for bunch of nonsense. Now on my record then!!!! Nicest guy ya ever met and now in court WTF? Now comes buying new gun from Creekside gun shop, NO GO !!!! I can tell you for a FACT it is hell getting cleared on paper work for years... I'm a wildman, but not some idiot felon dangerous scumbag.

 

[Uzi]

That's too hard to answer for me, but I'll chime in anyways. It wouldn't be CCW though. Many states require a permit anyways. It would be no assault weapon ban AND no restricted ten round magazines minimum. We shouldn't have to pick and choose, they're all unconstitutional.

 

[4excal]

People have the right to live free and unincumbered by government.

That may be sorta true..when you move out to Kodiak Island,AK,USA...

 

[SigLady]

That may be sorta true..when you move out to Kodiak Island,AK,USA...

It's looking like ideals and the practicality involved in applying them are, as usual, in conflict.

 

[SigLady]

People have the right to live free and unincumbered by government.

We should get that embroidered on a cushion the name if the governments game is (unfortunately) all about encumberance. They need something to keep all the minions busy...

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I voted with, no permit needed, open carry ok.

 

[Celt]

Like most, i want them all gone, but gun control started with the pistol permitting process in 1911. So i say cc or oc, its your choice.

As much as id like no mag restrictioons or no aw ban, as an armed citizen, being allowed to carry a handgun 24/7 would have the biggest impact on my ability to protect myself (including nyc).

 

[4excal]

I can't vote, no choice for me because as I may be the Minority in my reasoning, and don't really care about the backlash from Avatars..BUT my reasoning is pretty simple all BS restrictions gone, OC, CC everything legal, fine and dandy..BUT keep the background check process. I myself have nothing to worry about, I've always passed in seconds and always will, been carrying since 1995.If it's "why tell the government blah blah" theory, you must obviously know that when you purchase your firearms and just about anything else in everyday life, they know you already. I sure as hell don't agree with opening the floodgates to every crazy, sicko in America because some people want total 1776 freedoms..veeeeery different 2016 types of peoples in our country now..350 million or so and some are fuuuucked up..

 

[SigLady]

I can't vote, no choice for me because as I may be the Minority in my reasoning, and don't really care about the backlash from Avatars..BUT my reasoning is pretty simple all BS restrictions gone, OC, CC everything legal, fine and dandy..BUT keep the background check process. I myself have nothing to worry about, I've always passed in seconds and always will, been carrying since 1995.If it's "why tell the government blah blah" theory, you must obviously know that when you purchase your firearms and just about anything else in everyday life, they know you already. I sure as hell don't agree with opening the floodgates to every crazy, sicko in America because some people want total 1776 freedoms..veeeeery different 2016 types of peoples in our country now..350 million or so and some are fuuuucked up..

I think i see the glow of the torches and pitchforks in the distance...

 

[4excal]

I think i see the glow of the torches and pitchforks in the distance...

Maybe in Furgeson, or Missouri..

But the rest of us just pretend to want to act

 

[SigLady]

Maybe in Furgeson, or Missouri..

But the rest of us just pretend to want to act

LOL... Sorry... No i meant that this thread is likely to start heating up with strongly opinionated "avatars" with a differing view and carrying pitchforks and torches any minute now (i speak from personal experience!) stay strong friend, it's the differing opinions around here that make things so interesting

I completely agree that today's Americans are a different breed from the 18th century variety...

 

[4excal]

LOL... Sorry... No i meant that this thread is likely to start heating up with strongly opinionated "avatars" with a differing view and carrying pitchforks and torches any minute now (i speak from personal experience!) stay strong friend, it's the differing opinions around here that make things so interesting

I completely agree that today's Americans are a different breed from the 18th century variety...

I caught you the first time, no worries. Many "Avatars" know my style from the other joint, it's just my way. Your name is new to me though, and quite opinionated also, I like that. So a formal heeeelllo to you @SigLady

 

[SigLady]

I caught you the first time, no worries. Many "Avatars" know my style from the other joint, it's just my way. Your name is new to me though, and quite opinionated also, I like that. So a formal heeeelllo to you @SigLady

Hello, sir. I, too, am surprised we haven't crossed paths earlier! Opinionated as we both are

 

[4excal]

Hello, sir.

How do you know I'm a sir?? Im offended..going to burn my local CVS and Kmart down now..

 

[SigLady]

How do you know I'm a sir?? Im offended..going to burn my local CVS and Kmart down now..

Profile... I peeked.

 

[4excal]

Profile... I peeked.

I knew yew waz smert

 

[4excal]

Profile... I peeked.

Although I still could be deeeeep in lies and cover..it is the interwebz ya know

 

[SigLady]

And everything on the interweb is true! You could totally be 17/F from Cali.

 

[4excal]

And everything on the interweb is true! You could totally be 17/F from Cali.

As you could be a 58 year old man that lives in the Mansion in Albany

 

[SigLady]

LOL! Yes, Andrew Cuomo, at your service!

 

[Podmonkey]

What I really want is for the annulment of any laws that prevent me from bring my PA legal stuff into NY for a visit so I could shoot with some of you fine folks! Hell, might even move back in that case.

 

[Criticalt]

I can't vote, no choice for me because as I may be the Minority in my reasoning, and don't really care about the backlash from Avatars..BUT my reasoning is pretty simple all BS restrictions gone, OC, CC everything legal, fine and dandy..BUT keep the background check process. I myself have nothing to worry about, I've always passed in seconds and always will, been carrying since 1995.If it's "why tell the government blah blah" theory, you must obviously know that when you purchase your firearms and just about anything else in everyday life, they know you already. I sure as hell don't agree with opening the floodgates to every crazy, sicko in America because some people want total 1776 freedoms..veeeeery different 2016 types of peoples in our country now..350 million or so and some are fuuuucked up..

Dont be so sure.
A friend of mine was recently denied. Hes 44 years old and has never been arrested. He served 4 years in the Navy, has a good job and raised two great daughters. He has bought dozens of guns over the last 27 years with no problem. A few months ago he went to buy a new rifle for hunting deer, he was denied. He sent in a request to NICS for a reason. They sent a letter saying "You or someone with your characteristics is prohibited from owning a gun, either federally or state". Again, he has never been arrested, never had a restraining order, never more than a parking ticket, which he paid.
He was then told he needed to start an appeal, send his fingerprints and they wiil take a look in 19 months. Yes, 19 months before anyone will look at it, even though it is 100% a mistake. Nics is processing appeals from 19 months ago!!! They said he should also apply for a UPIN so he doesnt have to do this again. He hired an attorney but no help, still 19 months.
And before you say it, this is my best friend sinse I was 4 years old. We have spent literally everyday together or at least talking for 40 years, he has never been arrested or even talked to by law enforcement.
Our local gun shop guy says hes seen more wrongful denials in the last 3 years than in the last 25 years in business.
Also, my buddy has never been to a psychiatrist, a therapist or a social worker and never had a prescription for mental or pain meds.

 

[4excal]

Dont be so sure.
A friend of mine was recently denied. Hes 44 years old and has never been arrested. He served 4 years in the Navy, has a good job and raised two great daughters. He has bought dozens of guns over the last 27 years with no problem....

I hear you on that, and it's most definitely sad that an error in the system screwed him and many others as your shop explained. We know technology will have it's issues, so yes that is a real fear. BUT my original statement and reasoning stands..that's just my thoughts.

 

[Acer-m14]

My concern isn't about DUIs or non-violent felons... I'm with you there. My concern is with people who have violent felonies... YES they can get a gun on the street, but does that mean that the government should help them get the same gun? What's the point of any laws at that point? "No, you're not allowed to do that but since you're going to do it anyway here you go."

balancing the protection of everyone's rights gets dicey. The liberals take that conundrum and run away with it.

Here is my take ..

#1 Remove all gun laws ..

#2 Add in a new law .. no plea barging if a crime involves a firearm

#3 beef up the laws regarding crimes with a gun .. .. like you never get out of jail ...

#4 if a person is mentally unstable they should be in a hospital

#5 Change are current laws on protection to "Stand Your Ground" ... Castle Doc..

Good gun owners know what to do ..

Last year i had to call DEC for a bad deer ( pewwww she stunk ) Non available .. so sheriff came to scene .. when i seen him I unloaded
my rifles chamber .. left the mag full (internal box mag) .. kept the muzzle up in a safe direction .. he never ask me 1 question
about my rifle .. ie unloaded .. ect .. ...

I think that's how it should be .. weather your hunting or not .. .. act stupid .. get dead or go to jail .. ..

I shouldn't have to jump thou hoops ...

 

[GOPerfect]

Absolutely no Pistol Permit would be needed.

While we are at it...

No NICS checks. No checks at all. ALL Americans should be able to own what they want/need. If Criminals are so bad, why aren't they locked up?

There is no need for someone to have a "Check" run on them through the FBI for any other Right/ Why the 2A?

I can understand some of the guns laws, not sure which ones of the top of my head, but I am sure I could find a couple that I could agree with.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I hear you on that, and it's most definitely sad that an error in the system screwed him and many others as your shop explained. We know technology will have it's issues, so yes that is a real fear. BUT my original statement and reasoning stands..that's just my thoughts.

Until it happens to you or a loved one for a clerical mistake or for becoming a felon overnight for mistakingly having a spent casing in your car and crossing an imaginary line into the wrong jurisdiction.

There are many ways to become a felon or non firearms eligible without you even knowing it. You can become ineligible just by an accusation from a member of your household.

And before you think that could never happen, it happened to my friends neighbor who also never in a million years thought his wife would do such a thing.

 

[minderasr]

Constitutional carry. Nuff said.

 

[togmaster]

Until it happens to you or a loved one for a clerical mistake or for becoming a felon overnight for mistakingly having a spent casing in your car and crossing an imaginary line into the wrong jurisdiction.

There are many ways to become a felon or non firearms eligible without you even knowing it. You can become ineligible just by an accusation from a member of your household.

And before you think that could never happen, it happened to my friends neighbor who also never in a million years thought his wife would do such a thing.

Spent casings is a car? Please elaborate.

 

[GOPerfect]

Spent casings is a car? Please elaborate.

If I remember correctly, a Guy from Washington DC was shooting in Virginia one weekend. One his way home in DC he was pulled over, for some reason his car was searched and they found shell casings in the car. They charged him under DC law with, I hear, is brutal.

There way another story out of DC in regards to a shotgun shell in his home.

 

[GOPerfect]

Gun owners beware: DC man faces jail for having empty shotgun shell

DC judge hands down shocking conviction for man possessing muzzleloader bullets (VIDEO)