Acer-m14
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isnt that how they took down OJ Simpson .. Civil Law because the glove didnt fit 
Rittenhouse trial thread (multi-merged)
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Jmac00
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no, OJ got nailed for something else, like robbery or something weird??? But they threw the book at him along with volumes 2 and 3,isnt that how they took down OJ Simpson .. Civil Law because the glove didnt fit
spat
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OJ lost his shirt in the civil trial to the goldmans. But he wasn't ever ruled to have been justified in killing her. That makes a world of difference in a civil trial.no, OJ got nailed for something else, like robbery or something weird??? But they threw the book at him along with volumes 2 and 3,
Kyle never denied shooting and killing them. His trial positively ruled that he did so in justified self defense.
OJ was just not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but when the civil trial came around he *was* guilty by a preponderance of the evidence.
Kyle was different. I don't think the civil trail can argue the justification again. It wasn't just that the prosecution didn't prove he did it. It was the defense that proved he was justified. I don't think the different evidentiary standard for a civil trial makes a difference there.
OJ went to prison because he committed additional unrelated crimes long after the murder case was decided.
Fuck Rittenhouse.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
no, OJ got nailed for something else, like robbery or something weird??? But they threw the book at him along with volumes 2 and 3,
After O.J. Simpson's 1995 trial, which was a criminal case, the victims' families sued Simpson for wrongful death. The civil trial began in October 1996. Simpson was found responsible for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, and their families were awarded $33.5 million in damages.
O.J. Simpson trial | Summary, Lawyers, Judge, Dates, Verdict, & Facts
O.J. Simpson trial, criminal trial of former college and professional gridiron football star O.J. Simpson, who was acquitted in 1995 of the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. It was one of the most notorious criminal trials in American history.
www.britannica.com
spat
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That's because of the difference in evidentiary standard between a criminal and a civil case.After O.J. Simpson's 1995 trial, which was a criminal case, the victims' families sued Simpson for wrongful death. The civil trial began in October 1996. Simpson was found responsible for the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, and their families were awarded $33.5 million in damages.
O.J. Simpson trial | Summary, Lawyers, Judge, Dates, Verdict, & Facts
O.J. Simpson trial, criminal trial of former college and professional gridiron football star O.J. Simpson, who was acquitted in 1995 of the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. It was one of the most notorious criminal trials in American history.
As we all know, the prosecutor in the criminal case needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it.
But in a civil case the plaintiff and the defendant are considered essentially equal, so the Goldmans merely needed to prove it was more likely than not that he did.
So, the conclusion of both cases was "he probably did it, but we can't say for sure beyond a reasonable doubt".
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
yep
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Elaborate? And I don't think you're his type.
Whiney little kid that was looking for trouble. I do not pick up the hype that he was such this great little guy, just trying to help.
He is a punk. His shootings were justified, no issue with that.
He is very similar in my mind to David Hogg.
spat
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If he was "just looking for trouble", then you could say the same thing about most cops too.
spat
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I'm not anti police in general.
Just some of the attitudes many of them harbor.
Strikes me like the professional carpenter who thinks nobody should be allowed to build their own deck or install their own cabinets because they won't do it right.
So, is Rittenhouse in the same mindset of the carpenter?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Rittenhouse is the good neighbor who helps you build your deck.
The guys complaining about him are the union carpenters who think that he's "taking food off their table" by doing a job they think they have some right to.
Modean
.223 Rem
On the night in question the police were not doing their jobs, perhaps because they were ordered not to. In a situation like that, I would want someone like Rittenhouse around.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
uuum, was Kyle looking for trouble, not really. He was attacked first, and he ran away. The three or four attackers, went after him first. He defended himself. AFTER the self-defense, he ran TOWARD the police and tried to flag them down, they drove by him. He turned himself in/
This doesn't sound like someone looking for trouble, it does sound like someone trying to do the right thing.
and who let these riots go on for DAY'S. Did the governor bring in ANYONE to try and quell the riot. Nope, the .gov left it up to the citizens.
in conclusion, I have no problem with what took place that night and the final result.
This doesn't sound like someone looking for trouble, it does sound like someone trying to do the right thing.
and who let these riots go on for DAY'S. Did the governor bring in ANYONE to try and quell the riot. Nope, the .gov left it up to the citizens.
in conclusion, I have no problem with what took place that night and the final result.
spat
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His first encounter was with the guys pushing the burning dumpster into a gas station.
Don't see the firemen complaining he was doing their job.
That's what set off the miscreants that came after him.
So, are we *not* supposed to put out fires in case we might piss off the arsonists that started them and be forced to defend ourselves ?
Acer-m14
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spat
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Well, you can shoot the arsonist anywhere.i think in NY you can shoot the arsonist ..
The question is how much trouble you'll get in for doing it
Given how much Kyle had to deal with over an obviously justified shooting, I wouldn't want to risk it if I didn't have to.