He gave them weeks. American families can’t wait. It wasn’t going to happen. They were unrealistic. They wanted absurd money for unrelated things and for illegals. He did the right thing and the voters will ultimately decide if they agree.
Schumer: we will sue POTUS if he uses EO to help Americans
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BDinPutnam
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Too
Fucking
Bad
Congress is dysfunctional? Hold their feet to the fire, not the Constitution.
BDinPutnam
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Everything you describe good and bad is legislative, not executive.
Blimey
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Sweet Jesus.
This only DEFERS the taxes. They are still owed on April 15 of next year. But, if he wins re-election then he says he will forgive them.
So in the meantime all these people bringing home another $76 for every $1000 they make will probably have spent it.
and we say Dems buy votes.
Unbelievably idiotic.
This only DEFERS the taxes. They are still owed on April 15 of next year. But, if he wins re-election then he says he will forgive them.
So in the meantime all these people bringing home another $76 for every $1000 they make will probably have spent it.
and we say Dems buy votes.
Unbelievably idiotic.
No way a deal could be made. Trump would not allow illegals to get paid and other pet projects funded. Can’t string the American citizens along at the expense of radical Dems. They need the money now.
Blimey
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cant wait for what? Most people are still employed and already got thousands in stimulus. This doesn’t help the people who lost their jobs.
Read what he signed. Money for unemployed. Good morning!
Blimey
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Yes, but I’m talking about the payroll tax.
whatwasithinking
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Who cares? ... should people suffer because the Democrats had a political tantrum? The D's have been using lawfare for years. Someone (ie - T) is just perfecting it.
BDinPutnam
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"Execute the laws faithfully."
I say again- too fucking bad. People can't get extra money on top of regular unemployment? Blame congress. Don't shred my Constitution.
Jmac00
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and we were enraged, pissed off, and just plain mad, but did it change anything, nope, not even a little. But the President has backed Pelosi and schumer to a corner. Now they have to do 'something' to save face, and McConnell has to come back to the table as well/
Barry and SCOTUS paved the way. The EO powers were ruled to be more than we ever imagined.
Also the EO comes from the constitution. Trump didn’t just dream it up last night.
spat
.950 JDJ
They burned the constitution a long time ago.
Before it can be restored, they need to want it as bad as we do.
When it's used as a weapon that only cuts one way that will never happen.
They want ridiculous restrictions on gun ownership in blue states ? fine, we'll implement the same things on voting and abortion in the red states.
Oh, you want to stop playing that game now, good.
We'd better add some real teeth to make sure people stop.
We either fight dirty now, or it's going to get very messy later.
I'd rather go this route than have to setup guillotines in DC (The process which would be used would also not be remotely sanctioned by the constitution)
kev74
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I love this! The Republicans were caving into every Dem demand. It wasn't good enough for that drunken hag Pelosi, so she monkeywrenched the deal. Trump swoops in and gives all the stuff that will help people , and cut out the crap.
Go ahead Chuckles! Sue to stop the extension of unemployment benefits while Democrat governors are strangling their states, keeping these people from going to work. Sue to stop the payroll tax suspension while people who are working missed one or two or three or more months of work. Sue to stop eviction protection. And sue to stop student loan deferment!!!
If this gets presented the right way, all the Bernie Bros will be riding the Trump Train!!
For those worrying about the financial implications on the National Debt... Honk Honk!
Go ahead Chuckles! Sue to stop the extension of unemployment benefits while Democrat governors are strangling their states, keeping these people from going to work. Sue to stop the payroll tax suspension while people who are working missed one or two or three or more months of work. Sue to stop eviction protection. And sue to stop student loan deferment!!!
If this gets presented the right way, all the Bernie Bros will be riding the Trump Train!!
For those worrying about the financial implications on the National Debt... Honk Honk!
BDinPutnam
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And if history is any predictor, he'll back down and give Pelosi whatever she wants three or four days from now.
And we've gained what?
I call bullshit on all of it.
MothMan
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What a novel idea, legislators legislating.
Truebeliever
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Oh, don’t get me wrong. I think it’s illegal. I’m just laughing that the Democrats have to fight giving away money in court.
Mr. terzmo
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not to start the urinary olympics but He claimed a National Emergency and that may/may not extend authority. Just like the furher in Albany
BDinPutnam
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livingston
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The liberals in Washington WILL be backed in a corner ..They cannot get things passed without a lot of pet projects. . Liberal states still locking down their economy ...Folks hurting ... It is push back time ...
livingston
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So let it go through the courts and get thrown out .... Just highlights the gridlock we have in Washington .. A win for Trump...It doesn't.
What other extra-Constiturional justification ya got?
BDinPutnam
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livingston
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Highlighting gridlock in Washington is a win for the people that need the help. ... Lord knows the mainstream media will not point it out
BDinPutnam
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But they certainly will point out he's doing an end run around the Constitution, ad naseum.
EO’s have been used forever. The standard has been set long ago. Nobody did it more than Barry. The DACA decision further cemented the powers and they cannot be reversed as ruled by SCOTUS.
Steal2B
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Pelosi slams Trump's executive actions as an 'illusion' in 'Fox News Sunday' interview
Pelosi, D-Calif., is leading negotiations over the next coronavirus relief bill with the White House and Republicans, along with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
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BDinPutnam
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Wrong then, wrong now, and SCOTUS was way wrong on that ruling.
Bear this thread in mind when some (D) is writing EO's you disagree with.
gun_slinger_boy
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I've been asking this since my very first job in the employment world. It's theft.
They already have and will again in the future. This changes nothing.