Shooting at Uvalde Texas elementary school

[tirwin1]

This is despicable behavior. Harassing the woman who saved her own children because she spoke to the press and publicly humiliated the police.

Bad things are still happening in Uvalde

If you’ve been following the story of the mass shooting and ensuing police debacle in Uvalde,

hotair.com

Heads should roll for this.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This is despicable behavior. Harassing the woman who saved her own children because she spoke to the press and publicly humiliated the police.

Bad things are still happening in Uvalde

If you’ve been following the story of the mass shooting and ensuing police debacle in Uvalde,

hotair.com

Heads should roll for this.

That's masters level "how to make a bad situation worse" right there

Wow.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I don't give the officers in the hallway a pass at all. The department's own written doctrine is clear and that is to make entry. Even with one officer on scene. How any officer can sit in that hallway, geared up, while children are bleeding out is beyond me. To me that's just a convenient excuse. Cowards. What they needed to find was courage.

"The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery."

They all should resign. Every last one.

Being a cop isnt easy. It's a hard demanding job. One of which in order to do it you need to have some honest conversations with yourself on the night patrol when it's dark and lonely and quiet, what you are and are not prepared to do given "x situation" occurs. Being mentally prepared that one day you could be in this situation and you better be prepared to be the first one in through the door to save kids should be a pre requisite for wearing the badge. Anything less than that is unacceptable.

Yes it's dangerous. Yes you're putting yourself in danger. It's your job. You chose to do it and you signed up. You want all the benefits and perks and power when shit is easy but on the worst case scenario you cower.

It's no different than willfully joining the military. You know the risks and choose to accept them.


This is about the only PD that I'm completely in favor of immediately defunding and disbanding. They should all lose their jobs and benefits immediately. They utterly failed their community and at their duties.

I said on day 1 that the uvalde police failed and it's only gotten worse since.

I don't care if you disagree with me. That's my opinion.

 

[Celt]

This is despicable behavior. Harassing the woman who saved her own children because she spoke to the press and publicly humiliated the police.

Bad things are still happening in Uvalde

If you’ve been following the story of the mass shooting and ensuing police debacle in Uvalde,

hotair.com

Heads should roll for this.

Sounds like citizens should be peacefully protesting outside of these guys homes. Fair is fair afterall.

 

[spat]

I personally think a few members of the police should eat their service revolvers. How do they live with themselves? They stood down for 45 minutes while children were calling 911 for help! What the fuck were they thinking? Words fail.

The same way the nazi prison guards could live with themselves.

They were brainwashed into thinking it's not their responsibility as long as they were "following orders".

Which is utter bullshit.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[livingston]

Uvalde Police Officer Who Had Clear Shot to Take Out Ramos Before He Entered Robb Elementary School Asked Supervisor For Permission to Shoot but Got No Answer​

An armed Uvalde police officer had a clear shot to take out Salvador Ramos before he entered Robb Elementary School and fatally shot 19 children and 2 adults in late May.

In late May 18-year-old Salvador Ramos fatally shot 19 children and 2 adults at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.


The Uvalde police officer asked a supervisor for permission to shoot Ramos before he entered the school, but the officer didn’t hear back from the supervisor in time.
“A rifle-armed Uvalde officer sighted in to shoot the Robb Elementary attacker before he entered the school but instead waited for supervisor permission — one of many new revelations in a report obtained today by national experts about the May 24 police response.” Statesman investigative reporter Tony Plohetski reported.

NEW: Uvalde Police Officer Who Had Clear Shot to Take Out Ramos Before He Entered Robb Elementary School Asked Supervisor For Permission to Shoot but Got No Answer | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

An armed Uvalde police officer had a clear shot to take out Salvador Ramos before he entered Robb Elementary School and fatally shot 19 children and 2 adults in late May.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[livingston]

BREAKING: A rifle-armed Uvalde officer sighted in to shoot the Robb Elementary attacker before he entered the school but instead waited for supervisor permission -- one of many new revelations in a report obtained today by national experts about the May 24 police response. 1/4

 

[Jem45472]

Just when you think this couldn't have gotten any worse.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Anyone lose their job yet? No? Hmm.

 

[Stuckinny]

BREAKING: A rifle-armed Uvalde officer sighted in to shoot the Robb Elementary attacker before he entered the school but instead waited for supervisor permission -- one of many new revelations in a report obtained today by national experts about the May 24 police response. 1/4

Expected riots if he had taken the shot? 0.

Would he have waited and asked permission if the school was full of fellow cops about to be ambushed? Shots were already fired, seems a no brainer if your priority is to protect civilians.

 

[livingston]

Expected riots if he had taken the shot? 0.

Would he have waited and asked permission if the school was full of fellow cops about to be ambushed? Shots were already fired, seems a no brainer if your priority is to protect civilians.

Wonder how much outrage there is now . The top man in the police department directing the crisis did not have any communication equipment on him. You have an active shooter outside a school and everyone needs permission to take a shot. .. That can never come... lets blame the AR-15

 

[1075tech]

Client Challenge

 

[Jem45472]

Client Challenge

Not going to watch this horrible catastrophe. Already had an idea of how it went down on day one.

 

[livingston]

Leaked Uvalde shooting video shows gunman calmly walk into school

Uvalde County Sheriff's deputy Felix Rubio is seen being restrained as cops fail to engage shooter Salvador Ramos in harrowing new leaked footage from that fateful day.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The video Uvalde cops didn't want you to see: 17 officers RAN AWAY from gunman - and one stopped for HAND SANITIZER - as he sprayed 100 rounds into two classrooms full of kids - and they spent 77 minutes doing nothing while 22 died​

• Footage of the Uvalde police response to the shooting was leaked on Tuesday
• It shows how Salvador Ramos, 18, sauntered through the halls at Robb Elementary School carrying an AR-15 as a teacher called for help
• He then walked into two classrooms and fired for two and a half minutes, shooting off 100 rounds
• The first officers arrived three minutes later, but stood back, with one seen checking his cellphone
• Nothing happens until Border Patrol agents ran to the classrooms and began firing at Ramos, killing him
• Still, the Uvalde police stood back in the hallway
• Two teachers and 19 children were killed in the May 24 massacre

The video showing how easy it was for teen gunman Salvador Ramos to saunter into Robb Elementary School on the morning of May 24 and slaughter 19 children as well as two teachers has been made public.

Leaked footage shows how cops in Uvalde, Texas, stalled in the hallway for 77 minutes, checked their phones, used hand sanitizer and ran away from the gunfire at the school as Ramos fired more than 100 rounds at children in two classrooms.

The video was first obtained by The Austin-American Statesman. As many have predicted, it demonstrates how police in Uvalde failed the victims and their families on that day.

 

[Defilade]

Leaked Uvalde shooting video shows gunman calmly walk into school

Uvalde County Sheriff's deputy Felix Rubio is seen being restrained as cops fail to engage shooter Salvador Ramos in harrowing new leaked footage from that fateful day.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The video Uvalde cops didn't want you to see: 17 officers RAN AWAY from gunman - and one stopped for HAND SANITIZER - as he sprayed 100 rounds into two classrooms full of kids - and they spent 77 minutes doing nothing while 22 died​

• Footage of the Uvalde police response to the shooting was leaked on Tuesday
• It shows how Salvador Ramos, 18, sauntered through the halls at Robb Elementary School carrying an AR-15 as a teacher called for help
• He then walked into two classrooms and fired for two and a half minutes, shooting off 100 rounds
• The first officers arrived three minutes later, but stood back, with one seen checking his cellphone
• Nothing happens until Border Patrol agents ran to the classrooms and began firing at Ramos, killing him
• Still, the Uvalde police stood back in the hallway
• Two teachers and 19 children were killed in the May 24 massacre

The video showing how easy it was for teen gunman Salvador Ramos to saunter into Robb Elementary School on the morning of May 24 and slaughter 19 children as well as two teachers has been made public.

Leaked footage shows how cops in Uvalde, Texas, stalled in the hallway for 77 minutes, checked their phones, used hand sanitizer and ran away from the gunfire at the school as Ramos fired more than 100 rounds at children in two classrooms.

The video was first obtained by The Austin-American Statesman. As many have predicted, it demonstrates how police in Uvalde failed the victims and their families on that day.

Now lawsuit their balls off!

 

[holdover]

When seconds count the police are just minutes away.

I keep telling people , you have to be responsible for your own safety. No do overs, you get one shot at it.

 

[RedBreast21]

Now lawsuit their balls off!

Unfortunately that isn't going happen to any PD. Police departments and their officers are under no legal obligation to put their life in danger for anyone. Their weapons are for personal safety which may be used to protect others. SCOTUS ruled on this already. Maybe there can be some compensation gained from the town but honestly the area looks depressed and impoverished.

I hope this event doesn't fade away. A real conversation needs to take place concerning these soft targets, mental illness and the mental conditioning of young minds by our society today.

This event highlights the truth in exactly what can be expected of your local PD in these complex situations. Sure, there are individuals who will go against department policy and do something we might consider heroic but we shouldn't expect it. Unfortunately not one hero was in Uvalde that day for the first 77 minutes.

The FBI has done extensive research of these situations and concluded that time is the enemy. Officers on the scene should act and be provided the necessary tools to do so. I don't want to piss all over LEO's here. Clearly Uvalde didn't have the resources for responding officers. Unless I missed something in that video, I didn't see any breaching gear, breaching weapons, appropriate level IV armor in which to gain access into a room swiftly in that first group of officers. Personally, from what I seen of their actions in the hallway, I have no confidence that they knew how or that they would have initiated entry anyway.

As for the local tac team, well, they are drawing from a very small pool of candidates. In fact its probably nepotism that feeds the team. Their response once on scene was dismal, disorganized, lacked urgency and had no leadership. I'm sure that morning they went to work with the confidence of SEAL team six but acted like an air-soft team when the call came.

Of course all could have been avoided if the gun man was engaged outside the school where he was observed for several minutes by police. 100 yard shot or less at most.

Another thing that bothers me but I have no answer is where the hell did this poverty stricken kid get the money for that gear?

Anyway, we all know the answer to these shootings isn't a SWAT team or officers acting like their on the Secret Service presidential detail expecting to sacrifice their lives. The answer is in removing gun free zone designations from schools. Nothing more. No need to posts guards, have uniformed officers...ect. The mystery alone of who is armed will be enough. Just like Air Marshals.

 

[spat]

Leaked Uvalde shooting video shows gunman calmly walk into school

Uvalde County Sheriff's deputy Felix Rubio is seen being restrained as cops fail to engage shooter Salvador Ramos in harrowing new leaked footage from that fateful day.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The video Uvalde cops didn't want you to see: 17 officers RAN AWAY from gunman - and one stopped for HAND SANITIZER - as he sprayed 100 rounds into two classrooms full of kids - and they spent 77 minutes doing nothing while 22 died​

• Footage of the Uvalde police response to the shooting was leaked on Tuesday
• It shows how Salvador Ramos, 18, sauntered through the halls at Robb Elementary School carrying an AR-15 as a teacher called for help
• He then walked into two classrooms and fired for two and a half minutes, shooting off 100 rounds
• The first officers arrived three minutes later, but stood back, with one seen checking his cellphone
• Nothing happens until Border Patrol agents ran to the classrooms and began firing at Ramos, killing him
• Still, the Uvalde police stood back in the hallway
• Two teachers and 19 children were killed in the May 24 massacre

The video showing how easy it was for teen gunman Salvador Ramos to saunter into Robb Elementary School on the morning of May 24 and slaughter 19 children as well as two teachers has been made public.

Leaked footage shows how cops in Uvalde, Texas, stalled in the hallway for 77 minutes, checked their phones, used hand sanitizer and ran away from the gunfire at the school as Ramos fired more than 100 rounds at children in two classrooms.

The video was first obtained by The Austin-American Statesman. As many have predicted, it demonstrates how police in Uvalde failed the victims and their families on that day.

 

[Grimscale]

Their weapons are for personal safety which may be used to protect others. SCOTUS ruled on this already.

And, as we've seen recently, the SCOTUS can change their minds and rule a different way.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Stuckinny]

When that gunman has killed everyone and comes out of the room, we will kick his ass 6 ways to Sunday. In the meantime, we will wait right here with our rifles.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Defilade]

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Yeah, got the Punisher logo. Your fat shit ass would have a problem climbing a ladder.

 

[spat]

Yeah, got the Punisher logo. Your fat shit ass would have a problem climbing a ladder.

If cops wonder why they have lost the support of so much of America, this guy is why.

You need to get rid of all the cops like him. Then in a generation or two people might start to regain that respect.

Or, you can keep going until nobody respects you at all.

 

[livingston]

Texas House Committee Releases Interim Report on Uvalde School Shooting, Press Conference and Link to Report​

The families of the Uvalde Robb Elementary school shooting victims met privately Sunday with a Texas House committee who released an interim report on the events that took place. [Link to 77-Page Report Here] Following that private meeting the committee held a press conference where they spoke about the report and took questions.

The committee, led by State Rep. Dustin Burrows, shared what they learned as they looked into the school shooting. “If there’s only one thing that I can tell you is there were multiple systemic failures. I would invite everyone to read the entire report,” Burrows said at the press conference. “You cannot cherry-pick one sentence and use it to say everything without reading and without context. But if we need a simple phrase to describe what the report says, again I would tell you multiple systemic failures.” WATCH:

Texas House Committee Releases Interim Report on Uvalde School Shooting, Press Conference and Link to Report - The Last Refuge

The families of the Uvalde Robb Elementary school shooting victims met privately Sunday with a Texas House committee who released an interim report on the events that took place. [Link to 77-Page Report Here] Following that private meeting the committee held a press conference where they spoke...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[livingston]

From the comments section
Uvalde is right at the intersection of 2 of the heaviest human trafficking channels along the Texas border
The school was locked down 47 times between Feb '22 and May '22 due to police chasing traffickers, including one the day before the shooting

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1548830549166505985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1548830549166505985%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2Fblog%2F2022%2F07%2F17%2Ftexas-house-committee-releases-interim-report-on-uvalde-school-shooting-press-conference-and-link-to-report%2F

 

[livingston]

BREAKING: Nearly 400 local, state, and federal officers waited outside Uvalde school as gunman targeted children- TX HOUSE REPORT

Cowboy79
July 17, 2022 9:31 pm


Systemic failures. Yes, of course. Excuses for what happened by complicating the responsibility with minutiae.
400 armed law enforcement officers in body armor sat on their asses for an hour while one kid murdered 21 people.
That isn’t a systemic failure. It is an abject fiasco, a clusterfu@k of Biblical proportions. Utter incompetence.
This “report” is a stellar example of why Citizens ought to be Armed at all times, lest they become slaves.

Texas House Committee Releases Interim Report on Uvalde School Shooting, Press Conference and Link to Report - The Last Refuge

The families of the Uvalde Robb Elementary school shooting victims met privately Sunday with a Texas House committee who released an interim report on the events that took place. [Link to 77-Page Report Here] Following that private meeting the committee held a press conference where they spoke...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[livingston]

Uvalde shooting: Police bodycam footage shows moments when law enforcement entered Robb Elementary​