So when are we all goign to march on Albany?
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Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
when it's warm
Why what will it accomplish? Other than putting a smile on FUAC's face, knowing he ruined our rights.
Jaywmustang
.308 Win
They care more about the lawn than us gun owners. I wouldn’t be opposed to going again as long as my wife has the time off. She got into a heated debate with a Democrat the last time we went. He was the only democrat that was there that day, he must have missed the memo about not having to show up to work.
timboy
.44 mag
Been there done that,waiting for a different march.
The communists are in full control of the government, and the enforcement arm of the gestappo. Until the goons in grey drag the communists out of the government buildings and shoot them on the lawn there is no hope for the PRNY.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Back in 2013 the state Senate and Assembly were split. Nothing at all came from the protest. Today's state makeup are both controlled by dems. What would anyone expect to accomplish in today's environment?
Sorry to be the reality check here, but NYS is lost. It is no longer circling the drain. We're down the drain and have to look back upstream just to see the U trap.
Sorry to be the reality check here, but NYS is lost. It is no longer circling the drain. We're down the drain and have to look back upstream just to see the U trap.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I'm in. Just give me notice!
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
how are we going to march is the big question ??
muskets ??? how would they know if there loaded ?? LMAO ..
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It felt good 6 years ago when we did what we did. It felt like it might work, but it did NOTHING. There are only 2 options for NYers. Wait for the courts, or take our rights back by force, which isnt going to happen anytime soon. We may be facing tyranny, but its not the same as it was 240 years ago, and the average working man isnt going to get arrested and leave his family to starve unless their lives are on the line.
Let me know when you are marching rifle in hand. Then I will go with you.
200,000 armed people is an army.
Agree, 200,000 armed would turn heads, but still same outcome. Nothing, other than alot of arrests.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
We're forced to stand on the lawn, kept outside at gunpoint. Persons inside protected by guns. Go to local offices and fill up the waiting rooms. The chief clowns might not be in but waste a day of staffer time, be prepared to go back, cameras to preserve evidence. A good Ole fashion 60s sit in. Tie up that local office, parking lot etc. Move from office to office locally shutting them down by mass of people. 100 local people could shut down a local office.
I'm not beyond going to their homes either. Strictly keep it legal and on public property. Make sure neighbors know they're douche bags. Take up every parking spot in the street. They're in positions of power to raid our homes by proxy.
Be friendly, polite but in mass.
Smaller groups would seem overwhelming. Video.
I'm not beyond going to their homes either. Strictly keep it legal and on public property. Make sure neighbors know they're douche bags. Take up every parking spot in the street. They're in positions of power to raid our homes by proxy.
Be friendly, polite but in mass.
Smaller groups would seem overwhelming. Video.
the other option is to ignore unconstitutional laws which is what millions have chosen to do.
That all sounds great, but how many of us could actually cause a disruptance for more than a day? It cost me three days of work to go to Albany for one day. Hate to be the pessimist, but we're fucked as far as I can see. That is until we get a pro 2a governor.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
This allows persons to not go to Albany. Visit the reps in their home districts. Cost savings and time savings. Some of these pricks have after hours fund raisers. Their laws affect me 24/7/365; protest at their houses at 24/7/365. This opens up opportunities for people with day jobs.
I learned about some of the tactics in this book, it describes civil action way before Lexington and Concord.
The First American Revolution | The New Press
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
They are doing this because they want to and they can. This is no where near the top importance even for liberals. I just saw a poll on CBS and it only polled at 8% for the most important political agenda. #1 was climate change at 39%.
A March won’t change their minds. I sent an email to my representative just because. I thought it was a good email and have them good ideas about how to stop actual criminals. I’m sure they are laughing.
I also don’t think the republicans care or want to solve this either. It’s a motivator for us to get out and vote and a way to stay in office/power. Why don’t the republicans propose things or point out violent crime stats of that then murder had been going down. Or DA’s pleasing down gun charges. I’m so disgusted with both parties at this point.
A March won’t change their minds. I sent an email to my representative just because. I thought it was a good email and have them good ideas about how to stop actual criminals. I’m sure they are laughing.
I also don’t think the republicans care or want to solve this either. It’s a motivator for us to get out and vote and a way to stay in office/power. Why don’t the republicans propose things or point out violent crime stats of that then murder had been going down. Or DA’s pleasing down gun charges. I’m so disgusted with both parties at this point.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I've been to every one so far. Maybe we can all bring cardboard cut outs. Oh wait... never mind. Let's wait until the ground has dried out. I'd hate to pay another big bill to replace the grass.
@thewheels
.308 Win
I'd settle for a case of grey flu.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Agreed, but live in shadows. Hidden guns, unable to shoot on public ranges, not able to purchase certain items either.. its an option, but it sucks.
Since this is a public forum I will just simply say, there is no legal way following our laws to get them to change their minds.
No amount of peaceful protesting will do anything. They are rigid idealogues and they will not waver. They have law enforcement, district attorneys, corrupt politicians, unfit judges, and lying media all working together.
Their message and agenda against the 2a is unified and unwavering.
There is nothing we can legally do to get then to suddenly think, hey my crazy leftist power hungry indoctrination ideas are wrong.
The police would need to universally stop arresting for gun possession, district attorneys would have to stop prosecuting, judges and juries would need to stop convicting and sentencing.
No amount of peaceful protesting will do anything. They are rigid idealogues and they will not waver. They have law enforcement, district attorneys, corrupt politicians, unfit judges, and lying media all working together.
Their message and agenda against the 2a is unified and unwavering.
There is nothing we can legally do to get then to suddenly think, hey my crazy leftist power hungry indoctrination ideas are wrong.
The police would need to universally stop arresting for gun possession, district attorneys would have to stop prosecuting, judges and juries would need to stop convicting and sentencing.
How the hell are 200,000 armed individuals gonna allow any arrests? Only by consent, that's how. Withhold consent.
Look, wake up people. In an armed society oppression is by consent!
You have 200,000 armed individuals, authorities tell them to leave, the 200,000 tell the authorities to fuck off. Then what? A war? Probably just what happened at the Bundy ranch, the authorities shuffle their feet for a while then they back down.
No way to get even close to them numbers anyways. I believe maybe some day after the Fudds wake the hell up, and after this cancer spreads to the rest of the country. (Which is beginning) Until then all we can do is wait for that time, and hope for a SCOTUS decision.
Sneezy
6.5 Creedmoor
If we don't put on the pressure, if we don't all contact the FUAC with the same damn letter, he really won't give a shit. If 200K people start complaining, we make it known we give a shit. Otherwise, we are complacent and he will continue to roll over us.
I'm just being a realist. That time has passed, here's the map of ny counties opposed to the safe act. Cuomo and the city's in this state could give two shits. Another rally with maybe 2-3000 people will accomplish nothing. As mentioned earlier only thing that will help now is local law enforcement and prosecuters taking a stand not to enforce.
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