Spohn315
9mm
Let me re find it for you. Also let’s not act like Glock is the next best thing since sliced bread. Let’s not pretend that they haven’t had their fair share of issues like slides falling off cops duty guns lol.
Springfield and Rock River, Still Evil?
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Let me re find it for you. Also let’s not act like Glock is the next best thing since sliced bread. Let’s not pretend that they haven’t had their fair share of issues like slides falling off cops duty guns lol.
Did I say you should have bought a glock, have I been running around screaming glock number 1 glock best
Spohn315
9mm
No but you mentioned they make superior products. Saying they are top of the line quality above the XD and just about anything else with Springfield’s name on it for that matter. Yet not one mention of them having their own issues. Because it’s not dangerous at all when a cop pulls his gun and he needs to use it and the slide falls off. That screams quality.
But yet I don’t think glocks past issues make them a shit company with garbage products I look at it like they’ve had their issues just like anyone else at one point or another. Anything with a moving part can fail. It’s mechanical.
No I named glock and many others and placed them in a whole separate class than the XD. But hey keep reeeeing about glock
Spohn315
9mm
https://www.xdtalk.com/threads/which-pds-use-xds.42066/
Any Law Enforcement Agency use the Springfield XD? - The Firing Line Forums
https://www.xdtalk.com/threads/any-agencies-issuing-xd-or-xdm.153649/
A simple google search would pop up mounds of different cops and civilians discussing it. Also you can contact Springfield and ask for a list of approving agencies.
Spohn315
9mm
That’s cool the discussion wasn’t about the whole country issuing or approving them. You said name one and that there were none. I’ve already proved you wrong more times than once. The more we keep going the more you validate everything I’m saying and make everything you say look extremely biased and not true.
Spohn315
9mm
And obviously that wasn’t a complete list. There’s way more that issue or at least approve them as an option. But again either way well over 120 issuing or at least approving is a lot more than none. Just sayin.
With an estimated 15,400 to 17,985 agencies in the United States, that means roughly your plethora of agencies at 65 is about 0.36 - 0.42 % of agencies deemed the XD a service pistol
Oh boy 120
Let's do the math on that as well
0.78% of agencies in the U.S approve of the gun
Let's do the math on that as well
0.78% of agencies in the U.S approve of the gun
Spohn315
9mm
But hey just remember that’s more than none. Which you claimed there would be because it’s a dangerous junk pistol
Oh boy 120
Let's do the math on that as well
0.78% of agencies in the U.S approve of the gun
Let's do the math on that as well
0.78% of agencies in the U.S approve of the gun
Spohn315
9mm
Hey man keep justifying your purchase all you need to,
Glad you are able to buy one here in NY, I'm just sorry you over payed for a $200 gun with a grip safety that is known to be weak and break causing dangerous conditions
Glad to hear SA has cornered just over HALF of 1% of the market of law enforcement agencies, they sure are cutting into good gun manufacturers profits, no wonder why the company had to side with anti 2a legislation to try and keep their profit margins
Glad you are able to buy one here in NY, I'm just sorry you over payed for a $200 gun with a grip safety that is known to be weak and break causing dangerous conditions
Glad to hear SA has cornered just over HALF of 1% of the market of law enforcement agencies, they sure are cutting into good gun manufacturers profits, no wonder why the company had to side with anti 2a legislation to try and keep their profit margins
Spohn315
9mm
We could also talk about how you said no instructor carries an XD. I can also prove you wrong there too. But all this proving wrong is getting tiring honestly lol. You can’t hate them for a mechanical failure or call them junk and dangerous because every company has had their issues. Some that could have got cops knocked off or civilians getting hurt by other issues. You can’t say no police agency’s issue them and you can’t say officers don’t carry them. The only bad thing you can say about them that’s honest is that they’re imported with a state side company name stamped on them. And that brings me back to another comment in another thread. Welcome to America in 2018.
I’m sure half of what you own was made over seas and shipped here and stamped with a state side name. So you really shouldn’t hate them for that either. At the end of the day you have no real GOOD reason to hate them. Don’t like the price, that’s cool I don’t like the prices on a lot of stuff I buy including all of my guns.
Spohn315
9mm
And the company didn’t sell out. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to, to sleep better at night and keep hating them for a fist full of terrible reasons lmao.
Lmao no instructors. Ok let me guess Rob Pinkus Wonder why, since he is being paid by SA. Shit I even stated there might be 1, not sure how that is me saying none
And yes I can hate them for mechanical failures because the companies you keep reeeeing about have fixed those issues. XDs are still prone to break all the time.
And yes I can hate them for mechanical failures because the companies you keep reeeeing about have fixed those issues. XDs are still prone to break all the time.
They 100% sold out, they stopped opposing an anti 2A state bill because they would be exempt
They 100% sold out, they stopped opposing an anti 2A state bill because they would be exempt
Spohn315
9mm
Also I don’t need to justify anything. The only person who tries to justify anything is you. And that’s you constantly trying to justify all of your claims downing the company and the firearms. You’re misinformed severely. But that’s alright too. Don’t own one I really could care less lol. I love it and that what matters to me. I’m not trying to convert you into a Springfield lover just had to prove that you’re wrong and misinformed about a lot of things.
Spohn315
9mm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/bearin...ver-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/amp/
Doesn’t sound a whole lot like selling out to me. Sounds a lot like the wool was pulled over his eyes. But you hate them for no good reason so I’m sure you just automatically accuse him of lying lol.
Lmao yea how could the CEO not know what his lobbyists who only represented him and one other company was doing especially since the CEO was the one who started the lobbying group
Spohn315
9mm
I’ll give you that you did say one. But there is more than one anyways so still wrong. I happen to like having the grip safety sorry not sorry if it’s not your thing. The worst that’s known to go bad in recent years is what a 4 dollar part? Whoopi.
Here’s an even BETTER idea! Instead of acting like you got it all figured out why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and go buy an updated version and field test it vigorously (you know more than 200 rounds into some pbr cans in paw’s backyard) and then make a real judgement. Until then your arguments are invalid and I can’t even take them seriously.
Can’t count on YouTube videos and google bud.
Spohn315
9mm
That dang Springfield. Little liars claiming vigorous 25,000 round tests without failure. You should sue them.
Why would I waste my money on something I could give 2 shits about when there is already plenty of evidence out there.
Oh and that $4 part? Might only be a $4 part (similar to the $7 for an upgraded trigger return spring in a CZ P-07) problem is that $4 part in the grip safety when broken locks the gun up usually with a live round in the chamber, and now that stupid ass grip safety that people need as a woobie is actually making the gun unsafe. But yes thankfully its only $4 plus having to then take it to an armorer or shipped back to SA .
But again only $4
Oh and that $4 part? Might only be a $4 part (similar to the $7 for an upgraded trigger return spring in a CZ P-07) problem is that $4 part in the grip safety when broken locks the gun up usually with a live round in the chamber, and now that stupid ass grip safety that people need as a woobie is actually making the gun unsafe. But yes thankfully its only $4 plus having to then take it to an armorer or shipped back to SA .
But again only $4
Spohn315
9mm
Good thing I am surrounded by a handful of competent places within minutes of me that could fix it if said issue were to happen. I don’t like the CZ I think it’s ugly and looks uncomfortable so I’m good on that. Next purchases are gen1 M&P shield, glock 27, and maybe a Walther creed not sure on that one yet though.
Depends on which cz you are looking at (there is a reason it has probably the most clones of any gun design) as for the m&p shield why not the 2.0, atleast you are looking at the 27 (I'd say 26, or get a conversion barrel to shoot 9mm, 2 guns in 1, or 3 if you also get a .357 sig barrel) over the g43. As for the creed I'd stay away from that. Not much aftermarket support. Sadly walther has kind of become lower in the market here in the states. Dont forget to look at their PPS
Spohn315
9mm
A failure from over a year ago that’s cute. Here’s some failure pictures if you want to post failures we both can lol.