kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Did I say you said it was different than someone writing in a gun magazine?
Starting a "What did you Get today" thread. Let's give it a try (dont forget pics)
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kev74
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So this wasn't you sounding suprised that people give positive feedback in exchange for compensation?
I'm guessing you can't comprehend what's actually happening here
kev74
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Guess again, kiddo!
My guess... People say favorable things about a product in exchange for being compensated, but - and here's the kicker - they don't disclose that they were compensated. They might even threaten to say mean things (true or not) if they aren't compensated,
Am I close?
Close..
Some influencers are claiming to be doing unbiased "reviews" when in reality are doing paid advertising
And modlite is calling that out, not saying people should stop doing paid advertising or even shilling.. but letting casuals and smooth brains know hey that youtube channel that you go to for every review they have on something you may want and trust them because they have 900,000 followers, well they aren't actually reviewing that product they are advertising it and their 900k followers... most don't actually exist and the person paid a company to bump their subscription numbers up
kev74
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Holy crap! I didn't realize it was that serious!1!!1!!
This has literally been happening since people started selling shit.
Wait, you mean this didn't start with magazines?? Well damn ok never mind
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
You mean this didn't start with influencers? Whew... Close one!
Yeah, that’s not the point. Everyone knows that people have sponsors. Just like most gun magazines. I’ve read numerous review articles that might as well say “Paid for by *Insert brand name of product being reviewed*. These “influencers” have a legal right to notify their followers of their relationship with the company in which they are reviewing. Did the company send them an item for free to review? Did the “influencer” buy the product themselves. It seems that Modlite has some information regarding some people who have been a little shady with the way they go about doing business. As much as people want to bash Lucas Botkin since he does come across as weird and cultish to many people. But he does seem to stand by his morals when representing himself and his company. He touches on the subject a little bit here.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
My grandfather had words of wisdom.....
"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear."
I try to remember that every day.
"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear."
I try to remember that every day.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I don't think there is any legal responsibility for them to disclose any relationships. There is no contract, implied or otherwise, between youtubers and viewers.
From their point of view, they're providing you with a product - an entertainment product. They're not compelled to provide an honest opinion.
Honestly they might have legal responsibility.
Not gun related but a good video that may explain how they could be breaking the law
kev74
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I'm not watching that.
I'm not watching that.
I didn't expect you to
As per the Federal Trade Commission...
CFR 16 § 255.5 Disclosure of material connections.
“When there exists a connection between the endorser and the seller of the advertised product that might materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement (i.e., the connection is not reasonably expected by the audience), such connection must be fully disclosed.”
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
So it depends if they are endorsing the product or if they are giving their opinion. Interesting.
Maybe after the justice dept. finishes with the Biden Crime Family they'll have the time to chase down youtubers.
Federal Trade CommissionSo it depends if they are endorsing the product or if they are giving their opinion. Interesting.
Maybe after the justice dept. finishes with the Biden Crime Family they'll have the time to chase down youtubers.
CFR 16 § 255.0 (b)
“For purposes of this part, an endorsement means any advertising message (including verbal statements, demonstrations, or depictions of the name, signature, likeness or other identifying personal characteristics of an individual or the name or seal of an organization) that consumers are likely to believe reflects the opinions, beliefs, findings, or experiences of a party other than the sponsoring advertiser,...”
(C) “The Commission intends to treat endorsements and testimonials identically in the context of its enforcement of the Federal Trade Commission Act and for purposes of this part. The term endorsements is therefore generally used hereinafter to cover both terms and situations.”
Do I think the Modlite statement is as important as the Biden situation? Nope! Especially not with an election right around the corner. All I’m saying is that there’s validity to what it seems that Modlite is attempting to bring to light (pun intended). It’s not strictly YouTube, it’s all of social media. Right now social media is king. That’s where the majority of people receive their information from. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter just to name a few. Facebook has approximately 2.6 billion monthly users, YouTube around 2 billion monthly. These aren’t small numbers, social media has become a platform for advertising. A majority of businesses use social media for their own advertising, and Modlite is obviously calling people out who they believe might not be the most transparent with the way they are going about utilizing it.
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Excellent example of the intent of th OP
PutnamCharlie
6.5 Creedmoor
Thanks to @JackNeat for the heads up. Not the best price but better than most and shipped to my door.
Figured a funish video would be helpful understand what the whole topic was about.. but I guess one has to watch the video for it to be useful
Lol, oh well glad someone got some information out of it atleast
Also I may keep looking at Spiritus Systems for possible future gear
There’s a lot of companies out there that sell sweet equipment to everyone. Spiritus makes good stuff. Haley does it too. He was just talking about it in a post I was following.
Guy was being a little bit of a turd if that didn’t actually happen. But Haley himself went out of his way and even gave him his cell number, lol. I’m gonna make up some shit on a Micro Rig so I can get Haley’s personal cell number. lmao
Yea originally wanted their mk3 micro chest rig. But I think I'll be going with the HS D3CRM micro instead
Vapor
.308 Win
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Ive had one for twenty years, call it the medic crash cart. Insert dead creature, then a two person lift onto the atv rack.