Talibaan sets deadline to remove all US forces - or else
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dwa12479
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And they have no fear of Biden at all. None.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Don't worry. Bi-doing is on this. 
GTN
.308 Win
Easy enough! Let us walk through to get all our people and we’ll leave. No interference from them
Arjuna
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Eight Days in Kabul
if you think this has a happy ending, you're not paying attention
cdrsalamander.substack.com
I don't see how we can possibly get everyone out by the deadline but hopefully I am wrong.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
With no realistic close air support our forces are f*cked. Thank you Mr. Biden.
Well, when you display weakness, it's only a moment until you get smacked in the face!
The world knows he's a pussy, and it's only going to get worse!
Wait till China invades Taiwan or the Philippines! Russia already bitch slapped him too when he recalled the carrier group...
Huge POS... And the country was worried about the U.S. image under Trump!?!? Now it's totally screwed under this wet noodle jellyfish backboned empty suit career politician!
The world knows he's a pussy, and it's only going to get worse!
Wait till China invades Taiwan or the Philippines! Russia already bitch slapped him too when he recalled the carrier group...
Huge POS... And the country was worried about the U.S. image under Trump!?!? Now it's totally screwed under this wet noodle jellyfish backboned empty suit career politician!
Carlos Hathcock
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Bidoof can't even get ON an airplane let alone order ones for an airstrike.
These are the times that I really wish my President was still in charge.
Maybe not so much him, but the great people he put in charge of things.
If someone would not his bidding, they were fired and a replacement was found.
Maybe not so much him, but the great people he put in charge of things.
If someone would not his bidding, they were fired and a replacement was found.
MAY 2010....
“Biden is totally unprepared for that post, which will lead the US into a crisis,” bin Laden wrote.
Here is the full passage from the letter, which instructs bin Laden’s followers who and who not to target:
“Biden is totally unprepared for that post, which will lead the US into a crisis,” bin Laden wrote.
Here is the full passage from the letter, which instructs bin Laden’s followers who and who not to target:
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Is there a reason we don't have AC-130s basically perpetually circling the airport at this point?
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
If only he was actually elected. But I get your point
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Phazer
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Why isn't our military unleashed to run armored convoys with air cover and drone reconnaissance to retrieve our countrymen?
libertysnake
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Because Biden is a weak leader.
Uninformed and Compliant
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What we really need is just one soldier to walk right out of those airport gates with a shotgun, and fire two blasts into the air.
It works™.
It works™.
Phazer
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Watch the terrorists mortar the runway on 8/31.
We've got no other air base in the area for large fixed wing aircraft.
They'll also start using our stinger missiles against our helicopters, pin down our forces, and get a grand propaganda coup as they attack our penned-in forces at the airport.
If they provoke our forces to return fire, there will be massive civilian casualties. That gives the terrorists an even greater propaganda victory.
We've got no other air base in the area for large fixed wing aircraft.
They'll also start using our stinger missiles against our helicopters, pin down our forces, and get a grand propaganda coup as they attack our penned-in forces at the airport.
If they provoke our forces to return fire, there will be massive civilian casualties. That gives the terrorists an even greater propaganda victory.
Deplorable Me
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How do we get more CNN reporters embedded with the Taliban?
byron
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
They're already in bed with the taliban.
Dr. Evil
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Was talking about this with a patient today. He feels the terrorists will start beheading Americans and post it online until the US pays them a shitload of gold per hostage. He said the administration will try and put this all on Trump and arrest him for sedition.
C3D
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Our ability to bring in aircraft to Kabul ends at any time the Taliban chooses. There is no other base within easy flying range from which aircraft could operate. In fact, the next nearest base is Incirclik, Turkey, almost a 2,000 mile flight each way. Very unsuitable for keeping assets in the air, even if they can come in and refuel on the way the time over target is nil. Recycle time (return to base, rearm, refuel, return) is now stretching to 8 hours, too long for more than 1 sortie per crew per day. Carrier based forces are also not an option because Indian and Pakistan will not allow overflights.
And as Phazer said, mortar attacks and small arms will be very effective at denying the use of the airfields.
And worth mentioning about the AC-130 specifically is it can only operate at night and is vulnerable to small arms fire and MANPADS.
We are headed for a Dien Bien Phu scenario, especially since with Biden's indecisiveness means he is unlikely to withdraw our ground forces in advance of the deadline.
Deplorable Me
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Aircraft carrier group, Arabian Sea and KC-135 air to air refueling. If we had the will we could own them in an hour. Throw in a few drones.
C3D
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Not going to happen. You need to look at the map and see what you need to cross to get to Afghanistan. Answer? Pakistan, India, Iran. None of those countries are likely to allow overflights. The real tragedy in this Afghan mess is that we gave up an airbase with huge strategic value against Iran and China.
Sure and that's all logical.
But c3d made great points about the logistics of an air support operation.
We have lost almost all local air support bases. We have time and distance working against us.
We can have bombers take off from inside CONUS and fly (with refueling) all the way to Afghanistan. It's been done plenty of times. But it takes a long time.
Even if they moved a bunch of air support (usaf at places like incirlik and navy carrier group in the eastern med or Arabian) they're all going to have to deal with distance and be reliant on refueling. Tactical aircraft with combat loads have less than impressive combat ranges (unrefueled).
It really becomes challenging actually working out the logistics of how many aircraft would be needed for the right amount of support and combat power to protect our forces at the Kabul airport when thinking of how much fuel they would need, how long it would take to reach the Kabul area, how long can that pilot fly in a combat duty and loiter over kabul, how long would it take to fly back to base etc...how many planes would need to be in Constant rotation back and forth from where they took off to Kabul.
(Coincidentally this literally is china's strategy to defeat us in the western Pacific when they move on Taiwan). China wants to bombard Guam, Korea, Japan with missiles essentially closing all our forward airbases and then they have the benefit of distance on their side. It's literally what's about to happen in Kabul but Kabul is 3rd world compared to china's air defense capabilities.
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Saltwater60
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Fuck the taliban and if I were Joe Biden that’s what I would say on TV. Fuck you and if you interfere, kidnap, harm, or kill an American or civilian while we are here your little marching parades will turn into a blood bath. We will crush you.
Oh Joe Biden is a pussy though.
Oh Joe Biden is a pussy though.