It certainly limits their ability to claim ignorance. Or at least intent by way of ignorance.
You mean like this?
It would be nice to go back to talking about guns and not fighting over politics and lousy laws
Yeah I get what you're saying. Not enough gun specific conversations, I've heard that plenty. I'd love to talk about guns and projects and feel safe doing so without having to think about who might be listening, who might be an agent, looking for an excuse or exposing myself.
I'm a blue collar guy and kind of talk abruptly and to the point one thing I've learned from being around professionals
Also bear in mind that a full review of a case by the Supreme Court is not necessary. We have been discussing how long cases usually take, but there is a solid option for SCOTUS to take if/when the 2nd Circuit gives its written opinion that actually says something, not just a hit and run stay on the lower court's decision as they did in that one-paragraph POS.
Thank you for explaining this. This is much more clear now. And also shows how foul the 2nd Circuit is. It’s amazing how everyone else around the country is benefiting from Bruen except us. We are still waiting for relief. My big question now is how long we must wait for the 2nd to respond and what “reasonable time” means.
Butttttt, so isn't the 1st Amendment as well as the rest.
Yes I did know that but I was skeptical the SC would do that but now it seems like they maybe waiting to pounce on it.
Every one of the nine Justices has at one time been a lower court judge. They know exactly how long each and every phase of a case should take and what is an unreasonable delay.
Yes and, as we've seen currently, while the S.C. makes a speedy decision using a GVR it opens the door to the lower court finding any means possible to further delay a verdict, up to and including remanding it back down to the district court that made the initial decision with a bullshit statement of "now do it based on Bruen" when the initial decision was already made using the Bruen criteria.
True, but in the mean time, the anti-2A decision is vacated.
I saw the Erie County DA speaking about it and it he said it doesn’t include the cases out of Buffalo. That to me means the Sinatra religious one is not included. I thought the other parts were combined but I can’t keep all this crap straight. It’s complicated at this point and the EC DA said he thinks they can enforce the CCIA. Honestly he didn’t even seem too sure himself and I got the impression he doesn’t really want to.
It's not up to him to combine the cases or not. The recent note from SCOTUS indicated that they are looking at all the relevant cases.
"The New York law at issue in this application presents novel and serious questions under both the First and Second Amendments."
Well there’s no stay at this point so technically the law is in play. I got the impression from his demeanor that he didn’t really want to and was questioning that.
"I don't know when or even if I can exercise the Second Amendment, because FedGov hasn't told me if I'm allowed to yet, or in what time, place, or manner if I am. If the Supreme Court or some other enlightened branch of the government doesn't tell me what the Second Amendment really means, how can I know possibly decide for myself? If the Government didn't tell me what to do in every aspect of my life, I would truly be a lost soul.
Its not like there are documents from ancient times that made things like this explicit you know...
The very essence of Liberty is getting permission!"
It took NYS 1 week to pass these unconstitutional laws, yet it is taking months to unravel them. So frustrating
And now, take a look back at how many cases still haven`t even been looked at. That will even frustrate you more. Over 200yrs worth. Its all far from over. This is just the beginning. Some of us will even die of old age soon. I`m old, i`ll never live long enough to see the freedoms we use to have.
It'll take years, if ever.
No doubt about it Phazer, no doubt at all. They`ve had a 200+ year head start ahead of us while we continued being dumb an ignorant. Back in the 60`s, when the hippies were a problem coming up, i tried warning people, everybody just laughed at me. And if people think this will stop, jokes on all the ignorant ones. Wait until all those indoctrinated youth take over for the hippies. (and there is a hell of alot more of them than people think) When the indoctrinated youth take over congress, they will get rid of the US constitution. Think it can`t happen? Watch and see! Though i won`t be around to see it, some of you younger folk, just might. So, some will ask, why do i say this? Its simple. I`ve watched this country dieing of a slow death for many decades. You younger folks have a hell of alot worse fight to go thru coming up. If you love this country, MAN UP, and fight for it! If you don`t change the minds of the young, the young will change, you. And you are not going to like what THEIR plans are, at all. Only a fool does not see, what is coming. Look around at how the demographics have changed so fast. And its picking up speed. Ok, now where`s my freebie, you OWE me!!!!!
I agree. That’s 9-10 weeks from now. Not a hurry to me. They should get their thumbs out their asses.
You aint seen nothing yet. They will only hear these cases in 2 months. They they could do a number of things. Send them back down to the district courts or just take months to issue a ruling. And when the ruling does come it won't be in our favor so we'll have to wait longer for SCOTUS to take it up. We're a long way away from anything here. Those are my thoughts.
