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We are at the point where you either sit back and wait for the courts, or you hoist the Jolly Roger and start slitting throats.Typically when I post I am not attempting to make it a matter of going after someone in a personal manner, so I was not singling you out. I endeavor to do deal with ideas, policy, viewpoints, theory, and so on, with pointed comments about the consequences taking certain stands or accepting certain views entail. That doesn't mean that I have never resorted to rhetorical fisticuffs on occasion on this forum, but it is typically not my intention to single out one person in some Alinky-esque manner.
That being said, you stated something along the lines of "here we all are waiting..." on the courts. Seems pretty clear that you meant, "Waiting on the courts to find out if we can exercise our RKBA."
And THAT is precisely the problem.
I don't know how long you've been posting here. I have consistently stated that giving up any fundamental Right for a permission slip to exercise a privilege leads to obvious consequences; such as, begging government for permission to do things WE ALREADY HAVE A RIGHT TO AS DETAILED IN OUR LAWS.
Everyone in this thread is crying over their beer that the State of NY has curtailed their RKBA, and yet just about every single person posing in this thread GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH THE PERMITTING SCHEME.
Now, years ago, after encouraging people to refuse to go along with the the UnSafe Act, when the "lifetime" permit to Keep and/or Bear a handgun in this state turned into a "5 year recert," I gave many of the same people in this thread some oddball advice.
Namely, to throw that permission slip away, and refuse to go along with the scheme any longer.
None of us in NY were around in 1911 when the scheme came into being. It was "the way things are" and what people in this state were stuck with because their ancestors had gone along with it. Most recognized that the process to get a premise or a conceal carry permit was onerous, unconstitutional, and so on. That being said, for those without a criminal record, it was a "lifetime" permit as long as people followed the rules, and "allowed for" quite a lot of "freedom" for self-defense.
Now lots of people on these forums stated that the 5 year recert was probably going to lead to worse consequences for NYers who wanted to own hand guns, so I was not some prophet or seer in pointing out what others were also seeing on how things were going. However, I was basically the ONLY person who recommended that NYers throw those damn permission slips in the trash and refuse to go along with the permitting schemes the evil bastards in Albany were going to keep coming up with to curtail our Rights for as long as we were willing to go along with them.
Now here we are years later, and everyone is bemoaning the fact that "we" are somehow still "waiting to get our rights back."
Though I do not post a lot, I am a long time participant going back to the old NY Firearms forum. I have consistently stated that NYers need to stop gambling in the casinos, so to speak, where the house (Albany) always wins when it comes to the RKBA. There are reasons I don't post a lot, and one of them is the fact that I typically don't like to say anything unless I think I actually have something worth saying.
Since you have intimated that "we" are waiting on our rights, I took your statement at face value; that you were including "me" in that "waiting" given that I have posted numerous times in this very thread, and have never made any bones about speaking my mind on this forum.
Well, I am NOT part of the "we" in this equation. I exercise my Rights as I see fit, just as I speak my mind.
There are 3-4 million freaking hand gun permit holders in this freaking state, for God's sake! If you folks would simply STOP PLAYING THE GAME AND GET OFF THE MERRY GO ROUND, the retards running this "state" wouldn't know whether to shit or go blind!
Instead, NYers keep lining up for their permission slips, and keep reaching into their wallets, to appease people in Albany who will never be appeased until everyone in this state are DISARMED.
The one bright light after UnSafe was the fact that most people in NY refused to register their rifles. Of course, most complied by modifying them to get around the registration scheme, so there still was compliance even if almost everything people had was "readily convertible" to their pre-UnSafe status.
The boo hoo hoo from the crybabies regarding the new permitting schemes is utterly pathetic. Everyone in NY who rails about Infringement goes right along with it, so too bad!
Well, I refuse to ask for permission to exercise my Rights guaranteed by the Constitution. I'm sorry the rest of you keep complying.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: when Whorecul puts out a new mandate that men in this state will have to service her "needs" and "appetites" in order to get a permission slip, there are lots of NY "men" that will line right up for that, rubbers and KY jelly in hand.
Most of us are not ready for the second stage of that. Are you ?
