GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Trying to claim that a handgun is not a firearm is laughable.....
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
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Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
this a damn Firearm .. .. not a pistol , not a rifle , not even a shotgun nor a SBS ..
words have meanings if you stop making crap up .. LOL .
Uzi
.308 Win
I identify my handguns as cordless hole punchers.
misunderestimated
.223 Rem
So I know ,Nobody can predict the future but does anybody have an idea when this will all play out with the supreme Court and NY, Do with think we are days aways. weeks, months ,Years?
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Wireless personal protection devices.
So how does that work with the new semi-auto rifle permit?
It doesn't ban possession, as far as I know (and correct me if I am wrong) it doesn't change the definition of a semi-auto rifle to New York's version of "firearm".
It is a straight "permission to acquire" permit which should have automatically been overruled by the Constitution.
Then again, the whole "pistols are banned firearms unless we let you own one via permits" scheme should have also been thrown out long ago.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
My understanding is that is still under the rifle definition as far as most of the law is concerned. If you were to transport the rifle into NYC, you wouldn’t be charged with the felony possession as you would as if you had a handgun but with some type of possession of a rifle local law.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
No, it's that NY has fucked up definitions of what a firearm is. Shotguns and rifles aren't considered firearms by NY's definition, and I got the handgun definition backwards.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I think we will know this week how SCOTUS responds. At the circuit level we are looking at months before they make final decisions on PI. The District level cases will probably be decided by end of the year or next year. Of course this is just my guess
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
I may be wrong but according to everything I've read about the shadow docket, we could hear something any day now. Remember, if they do anything at all, it'll more than likely vacate the stay. If Sotomayor handles the application to vacate the stay herself and denies it, we can then resubmit it to Justice Thomas who will supply the necessary beatdown to NYS. One can only imagine that would speed up the 2nd Circuit ruling on the merits of the case...
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Thats the beauty of having the stay vacated. If that happens, let the 2nd circuit drag their feet for years if they want....that would be years of having our carry rights back while they sit and do nothing. Altho as I recently stated, I believe if they stay is vacated by SCOTUS, the 2nd circuit will be motivated to re-squash our rights.....
maverick52
.223 Rem
I’m not sure I agree. The Second already granted a motion for an expedited hearing. Briefs are due today. I don’t think they will drag this for years. SCOTUS can vacate the stay or they can put pressure on the Second to move this though fast. The case itself will also move fast. Both Suddaby and Sinatra have shown they have an interest in expediting this as well.
I understand why we can be so cynical and I am cynical as well. But this time I am hopeful. Only time will tell
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Yes, I'm also trying to remain hopeful...especially of having something good come from SCOTUS very soon. Don't be discouraged if Sotomayor initially denies the Stay...Justice Thomas will take care of us on the resubmitted application to vacate the stay...
maverick52
.223 Rem
Exactly. Unless the whole court denies
Congrats New Jersey your pile of shit law is found unconstitutional.
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Opinion – #34 in KOONS v. PLATKIN (D.N.J., 1:22-cv-07464) – CourtListener.com
OPINION. Signed by Judge Renee Marie Bumb on 1/9/2023. (mag) (Entered: 01/09/2023)
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Heading out to check my trailcams. Everyone have a great day!
Order on Motion for TRO – #35 in KOONS v. PLATKIN (D.N.J., 1:22-cv-07464) – CourtListener.com
ORDER GRANTING Plaintiffs' 8 Motion for TRO; RESERVING Plaintiffs' 8 Motion for Preliminary Injunction; Defendants are TEMPORARILY RESTRAINED from enforcing the following provisions listed in this Order; Plaintiffs are EXCUSED from giving security; this Temporary Restraining Order shall REMAIN...
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Keep in mind it’s only on the stay of the implementation of the law and not an actual ruling on the lawsuit. The most the Supreme Court will do is put the stay back in place. They could write a response with an indication on how they would rule if it came before them, but it’s Sotomayor so I don’t expect much favors from her.
Just a guess but I expect it sometime this week but that’s just a gut feeling.
An interesting thought, just how many speeches do you think Hochul has had written for tomorrows State of the State speech awaiting the SCOTUS ruling?
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Just 1. She'll completely ignore it anyway
maverick52
.223 Rem
She would shoot from the hip if scotus rules.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
I ignore her, always.
I don't think so, she will reply in some manner. It is one of her only accomplishments as Governor. Though if she were smart it may be better to leave it to AG James.
The hits just keep coming!!
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Good news for sure.
2nd circuit strikes down Suddaby. Rules his decisions were made in error.
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
NO... This is a legal brief submitted by one of the defendants. It is NOT a decision from a court. Of course it is going to go after Suddaby's decision.
THIS IS NOT A LOSS IN ANY WAY. Just a legal brief.
Really? I just scanned it quickly. Looked pretty bad and on court letterhead. Why wouldn’t it be on law firm/ state letterhead? Wired that they can release their response or statement on court of appeals letterhead. Hope you’re right.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
pshift
.338 Win Mag
If 'daFeuhrer insists on putting up names and addresses of CCW holders, just think about this for a moment. The criminals now know what places to AVOID since there will likely be someone home and ARMED.