maverick52
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Don’t think the court website is wrong. They pulled a fast one last minute on us. Hope is a dangerous thing my friends.
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
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Saltwater60
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Might still be Monday according to this article.
www.wktv.com
Monday a big court day for 2nd amendment, gun laws, gun rights
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in Manhattan, will hear five second amendment cases Monday.
JunkBoxFull
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They will "hear" the cases. Its going to be a long while before we hear their decision i`m afraid.Might still be Monday according to this article.
Monday a big court day for 2nd amendment, gun laws, gun rights
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in Manhattan, will hear five second amendment cases Monday.
Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.
Saltwater60
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Come on the article said they could rule from the bench??
ManualF150
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"It's not clear if the judges will rule from the bench, or, reserve decision and issue a written one at a later date. But Sullivan is hopeful for the outcome."
However, I know for a fact that they won't be ruling from the bench and they will be reserving a decision.
JunkBoxFull
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Come on, you KNOW that`s NOT part of the plan/agenda. Stall tactics, stall tactics i tell ya! Kick that can down the road!!!
I agree with @JunkBoxFull. This will drag out for a LOOOONNNNGGG time. Besides, for the judges, the cocktail and dinner circuit is just around the corner ( spring). Why would you ruin the potential if getting invitations to hob nob with the powerful over pesky things like rights?
maverick52
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The switch up of judges was deliberate. 2/3 judges are liberal. Clearly the fix is in. I don’t see how we win this. I guess the only recourse is an appeal to SCOTUS. Thomas did warn the second circuit to move expeditiously and told plaintiffs to appeal again if necessary. So we’ll. See. As far as I am concerned, they are not even enforcing the sensitive locations in a meaningful way. We haven’t heard of one arrest. Not even Frey. I think the CCIA will be like the safe act. A tack on charger when some other crime is being committed.
Saltwater60
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This was a joke guys.
Saltwater60
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I think they will toss us a bone on private property. NYS a will then give private property sign the power of law and then they will start enforcing it so again we will be worse off. I think we will get guns in churches and maybe bars, but most of the others will stay banned. They have been warned they have to do something. If they do nothing then it will surely go to the SC.
The real hypothetical question would be if that would be considered in line with Bruen and if that compromise would be viewed sufficient by SCOTUS. Being that the SC would most likely not intervene with the lower courts ruling without a hearing to GVR it would "kick the can" again for at least a year, if not more as an emergency stay was already passed up by the SC awhile back, offering guidance to speed up the process rather than intervene. Time will tell, but my money is on 18 months more at minimum.
camper4lyfe
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The CCIA goes beyond the safe act and a tack on charge. They completely screwed over anyone wanting a CCW
maverick52
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Yes. The social media stuff, and the training made it more difficult to get. But its the sensitive areas that are the biggest issue. And what I am saying is that being charged for carrying in a sensitive location will be a tack on charge if you are committing another crime or in some sort of dispute.
ManualF150
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I'm still trying to find out what happened with the guy in New Hartford, NY that was in Applebees that stopped the crazy knife man... I stopped by the premises and looked at all the doors and windows and I didn't see the green Lawful CCW Allowed notice.
Has that person been charged under the CCIA??
Has that person been charged under the CCIA??
Haven't heard a thing. If that means the guy wasn't charged, kudos to the area PD and the dude.
JunkBoxFull
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I bet we`ll never hear anymore about it. It doesn`t fit their tyrannical narrative, because he was "protecting" human life.
That doesn't happen and she doesn't need the data to know she is right
Saltwater60
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Talk to any detective and there are plenty of people that have been charged and prosecuted under the safe act. We hear about arrests all the time on the news and in articles posted here.
Do you have any articles or direct citations your aware of you would be willing to post?
Edit- not challenging your position, honest curiosity.
Saltwater60
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I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.
Which counties have had the most SAFE Act arrests?
Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York
www.politifact.com
Acer-m14
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did judge Bumb look up Carol Bowne ..
remember her .. She was stabbed to death in her lawn while waiting on NJ PP from x boyfriend ...
that order of protection paper really works my ass
N.J. gun association calls Berlin woman's death an 'absolute outrage'
When Carol Bowne was fatally stabbed by an ex-boyfriend late Wednesday night just outside her Berlin home, she had been waiting since mid April. Although she had filed a restraining order against suspect Michael Eitel, 45, the man attacked her shortly after 10 p.m. upon Bowne's arrival at her...
www.nj.com
JunkBoxFull
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Take that site with a grain of salt.I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.
Which counties have had the most SAFE Act arrests?
Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York
Acer-m14
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I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.
Which counties have had the most SAFE Act arrests?
Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York
my brother was a State Fire Instructor till the Safe Act bit his ass from a restraining order the wife violated ... she was at his house when he got home ..
all over a little 10/20 22lr with funny plastic on it ..
2 or so yrs later my brother got all the guns back including the one the safe fuckin act bit his ass with ..
Acer-m14
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yesterday i was at my moms and shared this with her .. told mom he talks a lot lol .. mom got it .. she like the vid
Acer-m14
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BTW .. there were no permits for guns back then .. even my mom called that out .. lol
who had the guns at the Boston Massacre .. lol
ohhh only the British democrats wanted them there lol
.. even my mom called that out .. lol who had the guns at the Boston Massacre .. lol
ohhh only the British democrats wanted them there lol
Unfortunately but as predicted he stated he believes this won't be decided until the summer. Unfortunately his research has found it unlikely that the ruling will go in our favor due to the appointed panel. If correct, this will be a SCOTUS case, and no new cases will be granted writs ( I believe even GVRs) until the following session in around October of 2023, if we are lucky. Even if they did decide to take it, controversial cases are almost always decided last, meaning the following year ( and that would be incredibly fast for the SC) nearly next summer, or my prediction of 18 months, in 2024.
Sad honestly. I touched the face of near freedom with my Pennsylvania permit process ( 5 minutes) and see how it should be (nearly- should be no permit, but PA is DAMN close) only to know what an uphill battle I have fought for years.
maverick52
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It’s looking more and more dismal. For what it’s worth I will echo what many said on this forum. Bruen has done more harm than good. It will be a long time before NY sees any relief.
That_FNG
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I say simply this, what is freedom worth? If to be free you had to wait 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, would it be worth it? All storms look bad before you endure them. There is no law that can not be undone, no wall that can not come down, no injustice that can’t be made right. For what man has created, man can undo.