misunderestimated
.223 Rem
Well has anybody heard anythng, are will still just in limbo , This is criminal what they have done to use and they are laughing at us all
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Not a peep but it’s all by design.
ManualF150
.308 Win
They are silencing us by not allowing us to carry and it's all by design.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i think the 2nd circus went on vacation march 24th
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They had enough time and they should have had a decision prior to their vacation. I know you’re not endorsing their move I’m just saying.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
that was sarcasm lol .. on the vacation ...
didn't they have to respond on March 30th .. from the March 20th .. crickets
i'm getting tired trying to follow this BS ..
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I don’t think there was a date established as in March 30 th but I’m not sure. I didn’t hear of a hard date just that the SC said better make it quick and right or we will take it up. Well we’re getting orettt long and drawn out here so tick tock SC.
I have plenty of experience with courts in NY taking their sweet ass time. My company was involved in a lawsuit back in 1995 that took 8 years before it finally ended. And I am currently in one that just hit the 8 year mark,- and is still not settled, and may take another year or two.
Justice delayed truly is justice denied.
Justice delayed truly is justice denied.
Hierlevelz
9mm
Crickets from the 2nd circuit.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
No surprise. Where’s the SC? They should prince and Thomas and Alito should exact their revenge with a huge expansion of our gun rights to make liberals cry.
John Stark
.44 mag
Shocker!
You didn't really expect anything else did you???
Hierlevelz
9mm
Of course not.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
New York State moves towards creating a firearms instructor shortage
My adopted state of residence, New York, is one of the worst states for being a peaceable gun owner.
bearingarms.com
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
5/9/23 In this video I break down the recent effort by New York to moot lawsuits challenging their new concealed carry laws. These laws were passed in defiance of the Supreme Court's NYSRPA v. Bruen decision.
ManualF150
.308 Win
NY... "Running scared"?
Umm, yeah, okay...
The only writing I see on the wall is criminals continuing to have their unlimited 2A rights, while the rest of us peasants continue to get the shaft.
Umm, yeah, okay...
The only writing I see on the wall is criminals continuing to have their unlimited 2A rights, while the rest of us peasants continue to get the shaft.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
yep moot the case we change the law .. just like before ..
look up the current 265.01/E took me 5 searches to find it ..
to carry in a church . you have to pass NYS Test still .. Private Security
SECTION 265.01-E
Criminal possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun in a sensitive location ...
to the section ..
3. This section shall not apply to:
(a) consistent with federal law, law enforcement who qualify to carry
under the federal law enforcement officers safety act, 18 U.S.C. 926C;
(b) persons who are police officers as defined in subdivision
thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law;
(c) persons who are designated peace officers by section 2.10 of the
criminal procedure law;
(d) persons who were employed as police officers as defined in
subdivision thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law
but are retired;
(e) security guards as defined by and registered under article seven-A
of the general business law, who have been granted a special armed
registration card, while at the location of their employment and during
their work hours as such a security guard;
(f) active-duty military personnel;
(g) persons licensed under paragraph (c), (d) or (e) of subdivision
two of section 400.00 of this chapter while in the course of his or her
official duties;
(h) a government employee under the express written consent of such
employee's supervising government entity for the purposes of natural
resource protection and management;
(i) persons lawfully engaged in hunting activity, including hunter
education training; or
(j) persons operating a program in a sensitive location out of their
residence, as defined by this section, which is licensed, certified,
authorized, or funded by the state or a municipality, so long as such
possession is in compliance with any rules or regulations applicable to
the operation of such program and use or storage of firearms.
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so much for separation of Church and State to protect your Church
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm sure its all heading back to the SCOTUS for 2024 elections. My understanding is that there is basically very little difference now between NY's Premise permit and Carry permit under the new law. Having both and using in a law manner can get you a felony conviction.
Basically all Carry permits are basically premise permits unless business's, property owners of business's like malls and shopping centers or any private property you may come in contact doesn't provide a sign or give you verbal/written permission of authorization, would then be illegal. That would include gas pumps, car wash ice cream parlor....ect.
SCOTUS will rule against the 2nd circuit but that is exactly what they want.
Basically all Carry permits are basically premise permits unless business's, property owners of business's like malls and shopping centers or any private property you may come in contact doesn't provide a sign or give you verbal/written permission of authorization, would then be illegal. That would include gas pumps, car wash ice cream parlor....ect.
SCOTUS will rule against the 2nd circuit but that is exactly what they want.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I could care less anymore about the CCIA.
NYS and the Second Circuit (like the Seventh Circuit) are defying scotus because they think that SCOTUS is in error. They see this as a moral issue and will obfuscate, delay and circumvent as long as they can. The only way this is resolved is if the Supreme Court throws down the gauntlet and intervenes with very strict instructions. Even so, there is no consequence for defying the high court. So I don’t expect any of this to get resolved any time soon if ever. Each person has to determine for themselves what level of risk you are willing to take if and when you carry.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
None of this should be an issue. I must be getting old as I seem to remember a time when the SC carried weight as outlined in the Constitution.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Do you remember when we had rights?
Depick
.308 Win
Pepperidge Farm does
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
What are these rights you talk about?
Bustedknees
.308 Win
still pissing over the fence with zero consequences.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
how many days is it now that rights have been delayed by the 2nd Circus Zoo
Slacker43
.40 S&W
CONCEALED CARRY. Practice it. Get proficient with it. Carry on. Fuck nys. Fuck the 2nd circuit. Stop letting people take your rights. At some point you have to take a a stand and take your rights back. It the fucking purpose of the 2A for fucks sake.
alistair
6.5 Creedmoor
Has there been any movement by courts on this?
ManualF150
.308 Win
If there was, this thread wouldn't take a search to find it.
Your rhetoric sounds great and all, and I completely agree with it but.........are you going to be paying my court fees, defense fees and supporting my family while I am being convicted of an unjust law? It means fuckall whether or not a law is just or not, if it is enforced than it is the law. Period. Full stop. Unless you are rich of course, than the law doesn't apply to you.