Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
- Thread starter Glock_USA
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Concealed is Concealed. Noone SHOULD know your carrying. If they do, you're doing it wrong in the first place.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
The Second Circuit Court has adjourned. I cannot find anything as to oh, something like a decision. So, we continue to wait.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Nothing will come of this. Well, nothing good anyway.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
So much for that stern warning from SCOTUS 
ManualF150
.308 Win
It's all a horse and pony show.So much for that stern warning from SCOTUS
Law abiding citizens always get the shaft.
Not just with gun laws. Look at all the shit that's going on.
What's the point in concealed carry if you never use it? A security blanket? If you DO use it you are right back to my previous statement. Ain't the real world so fuckin' great?
Life's full of those circumstances.
Homeowners insurance
Car insurance
Fire extinguishers
Health insurance
Bet you have at least 2 of them. Going to cancel any of them? Doubtful. Stop carrying? Nah, it's insurance.
Beerman
.223 Rem
Having home/fire insurance policy while out in public is completely lawful, even if caught carrying it. Having car insurance is required by law. Having health insurance was mandated for a few years, too. Having those things, and using them, will not get you thrown in the clink. And none of them are protected by the Constitution. Think about that.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
and people still drive cars with no insurance or license
people still still do not have health insurance ..
people still do not have home owners insurance
^^^ me i live in a 1965 trailer and own it .. cant get it .. ..
can't get fire insurance for it either ..
Beerman
.223 Rem
What happens if you use your insurance, though? Will you be arrested for using your healthcare insurance? Will you be arrested in NYS for using your holstered, concealed “insurance plan” that JchrisIs mentioned? See the difference? It’s not the same. A handgun might be insurance, but it can’t be compared to car insurance or homeowner’s, or healthcare.and people still drive cars with no insurance or license
people still still do not have health insurance ..
people still do not have home owners insurance
^^^ me i live in a 1965 trailer and own it .. cant get it .. ..
can't get fire insurance for it either ..
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
defense gun insurance is banned in NY ..
just like my house insurance is because it a trailer and old ..
just like my house insurance is because it a trailer and old ..
Beerman
.223 Rem
You just don’t get it. But, do go on…
Slacker43
.40 S&W
Should I pay your college loans too??? It is not "rhetoric". I carry all day every day. This is quite the comment coming on independence day weekend lol. You do whatever you need to buttercup. I'm going to continue to be an American and follow the constitution. I'm not rich. If something happens I will deal with it. That's life and that's how I live it. It is no law if it is not in line with the constitution. Full stop. Period.
This comment is exactly why we will never see another civil war or any uprising against confiscation when it happens. No one will give up their cushy life for their rights. This once great country is on its way down the other side unless this way of thinking changes real quick. It's all about me, me, me. People don't cherish what this nation is and that will be our downfall.
Slacker43
.40 S&W
If you used it pre 9/1/22 in ny you were going to jail. You could shoot someone in your house at 2am and you were going to jail. I made peace with that before I began carrying.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
anyone have a problem with that sign ??
Well, I'll still be alive, a good starting point to figure out the rest later. The other option doesn't leave me a choice, now does it?
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Concealed is concealed while carrying. If you need to use it that is a different story. If you need it then you obviously don’t just leave it in your holster.
Yes this sucks for all of us and we shouldn’t be in this situation under any means but we are. I have re-evaluated what I will and won’t do because of the CCIA. In fact, I doubt I’d do much for a complete stranger these days if I could retreat because of this. It’s a hard decision and situation for all of us.
maverick52
.223 Rem
Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes tells U.S. Supreme Court to shove it
I know this has nothing to do with firearm laws. But it’s related. This article shows the attitude of another democratic AG who basically is defying a scotus ruling in another case. Essentially SCOTUS rulings will continue to be ignored and defied by other government officials who don’t like or agree with the majority. Further evidence that even when we win we lose. The system is broken and we cannot or should depend on the Supreme Court for judicial relief.
I know this has nothing to do with firearm laws. But it’s related. This article shows the attitude of another democratic AG who basically is defying a scotus ruling in another case. Essentially SCOTUS rulings will continue to be ignored and defied by other government officials who don’t like or agree with the majority. Further evidence that even when we win we lose. The system is broken and we cannot or should depend on the Supreme Court for judicial relief.
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Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Protected class? Funny the constitution protects my right to my religion and my right to my guns yet they are ok with me having neither rights.
I don’t care what you do in the privacy of your own home but I can say I don’t want to make a product or a service to you for any reason. I have that right of refusal.
Vinson57
.338 Win Mag
Add to it: Some Customers Are Armed
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The implications are terrifying. They pick and choose the laws they want to enforce and make up and enforce ones that aren't. Government by tyranny.
Beerman
.223 Rem
If a private business, which is open to the public, can lawfully put up a sign that says “No guns allowed,” thereby depriving me of a Constitutionally protected right, then a private business can do pretty much anything else it wants, including forbidding free speech, barring religious attire, mandatory bag searches, refusal to bake a cake, or design a website.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
if the govt told the business owner to post any of the above in the window .. that is compelled speech and unconstitutional ...
just wanted to clarify
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Today makes 5 months to the day since the 2nd circuit heard oral arguments. Not an effin peep from them. So much for big bad SCOTUS telling them to expedite the case. WTF, I'm absolutely discusted, but certainly not surprised....
Beerman
.223 Rem
I don’t expect a ruling to ever be handed down. Perpetually put off. They have no deadline, and if they did, it would be ignored. Forever.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
The 2nd will die in NYS with a whimper. Then Herr Hokel will come for the rest of it. She will ignore any SCOTUS ruling she wishes, let them enforce their ruling. She has an armed force, multiple in fact, and they have sternly written opinions.
The fix is in. Sadly.
The fix is in. Sadly.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I agree...they broke for the summer the end of JUNE, plenty of time to make ruling. It is for a stay on the crap, not even a "real" ruling.
They come back to sesson in Sept. I cannot find the details of their calendar, whether there is anything about the five lawsuits presented in March. Meanwhile the "law" marches on with people having to show their license for ammo and the specter of NY being the POC for background checks. And the reality of more people just acclimating and going back to sleep.
