BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
The left *is* in power in those cities and doing very little to stop this stuff.
The Democrats want Trump to win.
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The left *is* in power in those cities and doing very little to stop this stuff.
I meant in power at the national level. That is the bait they were laying out for Trump, then they could say how bad the right is coming into dem strongholds and crushing liberty.
(Some/a lot) of people just don't care about that creepiness. Otherwise he'd be sunk already. In my mind both candidates are trash. Gun rights and him presenting an obvious target to galvanize activism are reasons why I prefer Trump to Biden. But I suspect the Democrats are taking this one.
Absolutely, the only way Biden is going to win is by fraud.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I like to work hard and help people. I like to take care of my family and see them succeed. I love this country. I like nice things. I like good over evil. I like law and order. I like the constitution. I like being left alone. I like deciding for myself what and how I will care for my health and the health of my family. I don't like being taken advantage of. I am kind to everyone that is kind to me. I am pro Israel. I hate terrorism both foreign and domestic. I like borders. I don't like sanctuary cities/states. I like more money in my pocket. I have a huge heart for animals. I hate unnecessary regulations. I like our military and law enforcement. I despise pedophilia and sex/human trafficking. I hate Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer and all of those that have done NOTHING other than try to get rid of Trump. I like low unemployment and a strong economy. If a Trump election further forces me to deal with what he represents I'll gladly deal with it.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Sorry but no.
All good. If that's what he represents to you then so be it.
Jcp123
.357 mag
Eh. Demicans and Republicrats.
Elephants are red, donkeys are blue.
Neither give a f””” about you.
Elephants are red, donkeys are blue.
Neither give a f””” about you.
Its NRA logic.
The NRA gets support, donations, membership when its members are angry and losing.
The NRA doesn't get that same level of support when things are going well.
The Demorats are using the exact same methodology. They are taking a page right out of the NRAs playbook.
The Dems know that it's not likely Biden will beat trump.
They don't want Biden to win.
They would rather have 4 more years of trump, 4 more years of anger, outrage, frustration, political energy, monetary donations, political action groups, civil unrest etc. They are going to position themselves for 2024 when TX will be in play. They want the country to be in chaos and they will feed into it
They aren't fearful of trump being president. They know they have everything stacked against him to thwart his agenda. They have the courts, bureaucrats, deep state, media, justice department and everything else on their side which will act in a concerted effort to bog down anything trump tries to accomplish. Look at the past 4 years of gridlock. Expect 4 more years of political undermining.
The Democrats really won't lose anything with 4 more years of trump but the stand to gain everything by trump winning and causing a shit storm while jamming everything else up in the process.
They will run a capable candidate in 2024 against Mike pence and say "see we told you so, we told you it would be chaos, vote for us to bring civility and functional government back. No more extremists"
They will orchestrate the chaos but blame it on the trump administration and the right and then try to profit from it.
The NRA gets support, donations, membership when its members are angry and losing.
The NRA doesn't get that same level of support when things are going well.
The Demorats are using the exact same methodology. They are taking a page right out of the NRAs playbook.
The Dems know that it's not likely Biden will beat trump.
They don't want Biden to win.
They would rather have 4 more years of trump, 4 more years of anger, outrage, frustration, political energy, monetary donations, political action groups, civil unrest etc. They are going to position themselves for 2024 when TX will be in play. They want the country to be in chaos and they will feed into it
They aren't fearful of trump being president. They know they have everything stacked against him to thwart his agenda. They have the courts, bureaucrats, deep state, media, justice department and everything else on their side which will act in a concerted effort to bog down anything trump tries to accomplish. Look at the past 4 years of gridlock. Expect 4 more years of political undermining.
The Democrats really won't lose anything with 4 more years of trump but the stand to gain everything by trump winning and causing a shit storm while jamming everything else up in the process.
They will run a capable candidate in 2024 against Mike pence and say "see we told you so, we told you it would be chaos, vote for us to bring civility and functional government back. No more extremists"
They will orchestrate the chaos but blame it on the trump administration and the right and then try to profit from it.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
I just watched the opening of the RNC, it was nearly perfect, as far as I can tell. No bashing the left, barely anyone mentioned Biden, Except for Rep Geotz, who said "I come to from and empty auditorium, it's as empty and Joe Biden Schedule", that was hilarious, LOL
every speaker was articulate, well spoken and made sense. NO bashing the left, yet. But a lot of Praising Pres. Trump, not mushy praise, genuine praise for a job well done, so far. Promises made, Promises Kept.
I hope the rest of the RNC goes the same way, the DemocRATs have pretty much hung themselves. at no point has the left told America what the plan was/is, what their policies will be. All they did was bash Pres. Trump. Thats not a winning strategy.
the RNC need to send a loud, clear plan to get America back to pre-covid economy.
every speaker was articulate, well spoken and made sense. NO bashing the left, yet. But a lot of Praising Pres. Trump, not mushy praise, genuine praise for a job well done, so far. Promises made, Promises Kept.
I hope the rest of the RNC goes the same way, the DemocRATs have pretty much hung themselves. at no point has the left told America what the plan was/is, what their policies will be. All they did was bash Pres. Trump. Thats not a winning strategy.
the RNC need to send a loud, clear plan to get America back to pre-covid economy.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Kind of like when I have a patient that improves from something they have been dealing with for years and when they tell their doctor the results the doc replies, "Well, as long as it works for you." They tell them what actually happened and the doc kind of patronizes them. Nothing personal in my observation.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I think..."organizations" like Antifa are just the tip of the iceberg. If the Dems get into power, things will get worse, much worse. The goal is disarmament first. This movie had already played out in Nazi Germany, beginning in the 1920's. Registration, confiscation. Intimidation. These punks and bullies are modern day SS and Gestapo. The only thing that stops a bully is a good ass whoopin.
This situation is eventually going to reach everyone's door step and touch everyone's lives. Then you will have to make a choice.
A prolonged guerilla warfare will be ugly, but that's who we are. We're Americans. Act like it. Get away with what you can while you can. Smuggle. Hide. Support. Network. The world ignored the IRA in Northern Ireland because nobody gave a shit about a stretch of rocky beach. The number 1 economy in the entire world is another story.
I have every feeling if the situation deteriorates the Chinese will get involved militarily. Building up their military to control the South China Sea and vicinity is just a ruse. Many American politicians receive a lot of Chinese money. Think they're aren't strings attached?
Unlike my peers and friends who passed before me, I have the luxury of choosing how I go out of this world, at least so far. And Goddamnit I ain't going out without a ratio of at least 100 to 1.
This situation is eventually going to reach everyone's door step and touch everyone's lives. Then you will have to make a choice.
A prolonged guerilla warfare will be ugly, but that's who we are. We're Americans. Act like it. Get away with what you can while you can. Smuggle. Hide. Support. Network. The world ignored the IRA in Northern Ireland because nobody gave a shit about a stretch of rocky beach. The number 1 economy in the entire world is another story.
I have every feeling if the situation deteriorates the Chinese will get involved militarily. Building up their military to control the South China Sea and vicinity is just a ruse. Many American politicians receive a lot of Chinese money. Think they're aren't strings attached?
Unlike my peers and friends who passed before me, I have the luxury of choosing how I go out of this world, at least so far. And Goddamnit I ain't going out without a ratio of at least 100 to 1.
I'm also a realist.
I am sorry for you, that you see things the way you do. I'm sure you have reasons, as do I for the alternate.
I'm not trying to patronize you. At this point, we simply have very different perspectives on Trump. There are many items in your list that I agree with.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
My mistake sir. One of the downfalls of typing words on a screen. No tone. I am confused though. Do you not believe that the items you agree with are what Trump also agrees with?
My vision of a great America is much more humanist and "progressive" than Trump's. He wants law and order at all costs whereas I want justice at all costs. His nationalist rhetoric goes beyond wanting a strong America: he basically says f*ck the rest of the world. My outlook is much more universalist. I understand his hardball tactics but don't have much respect for his character. His bombastic statements on race, women and nearly every other topic he speaks on put the United States in a very dim light. He's an embarrassment in my eyes. We can appreciate some (or even many) of the same things but the devil's in the details and Trump's ideas about how to implement his agenda, and his behavior on the international stage make it impossible for me to get behind him.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Alright, So I had a momentary laps of reason. I’m better now.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Got it. IMHO we have been taken advantage of by others for so long due to weakness in our leadership that I find it refreshing to be a bull in a china shop so to speak. I am not one for the "it takes a village" mentality and I guess that carries over to the world. If every country did the right thing by their citizens and had a true love of their country then IMHO the world would be a much better place. If you are confident in your business you don't have to worry about the business of others. In a perfect world we would have everything we want in a president. Character, humility, smarts and all of the other perfect attributes of mankind. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. I learned a long time ago in practice you can't save the world but you can kill yourself trying. You save the people that want to be saved. Personally I don't care if other countries "like" us. I would rather they respect us in the sense of knowing not to screw with us. In life I really don't care that much if other people like me. As long as I have the love of my family, some friends and the respect of my patients I'm good. I care about results. Bombastic statements on race and women? Please provide some examples for me. We had 8 years of a very smooth, polished, well spoken man loved by the rest of the world. How'd that work out for the United States of America?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
What bombastic statements on race ?
People keep talking about them, but I've never actually seen or heard one.
It's like they want to convince you they exist by sheer repetition in the absense of any actual evidence.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
You know, he's a racist, xenophobe, blah blah blah.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Yea, he hates immigrants so much he married one.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No need to be sorry. I go by evidence. And the evidence I see is that our side does nothing. Absolutely nothing at all. We have a Republican President and a Republican house. Where is our National Reciprocity? Why aren’t previous executive orders on the banning of Russian firearms from import rescinded? Why aren’t we lobbying for them to act? Why are we letting ANTIFA and BLM destroy our neighborhoods? Why are law enforcement who say that they are on our side arresting people for driving through the state with a pistol? Why aren’t we protesting the police who do so? Why are our servicemen in Fort Drum who take it upon themselves to protect businesses from looting arrested by law enforcement for not having a registered pistol?
Why? When are we going to stand up? Tomorrow is the answer. Never today? There is a new law about to be passed that bans you from buying a new barrel for your rifle and installing it yourself? What are we doing to stop it? Nothing. When it passes, we will just accept it. That’s it.
What are we doing to stop illegal immigration? What are we doing to stop our teachers from teaching our kids liberalism? What are we doing to stop the media from reporting biased news with only half of the story?
Nothing. So when you say that you think things will get better, I say show me. Show me what has been done in the past to stop things from getting worse. Show me the plan for the future other than just hoping for tomorrow that someone or a group of someones will stand up.
What are we doing to law enforcement that shuts down businesses for violating Covid orders? Nothing.
See what I mean? The truth is in the pudding. There is absolutely no evidence that proves that we will do something. None. On the contrary everything proves that we will do nothing.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
People will by and large take whatever they dish out right up until it gets too bad and then they won't.
The trick is to retain the means of resistance until that point.
The tyrants know this, and that is why they are so gung ho on gun control.
They know that if they don't disarm us before the chickens come home to roost on their major plans that they will have a very bad time.
So basically, the longer we can hold onto our guns, the longer we can forestall the implosion. We don't actually have to shoot anyone, just retain the ability to do so.
It's like MAD in the cold war. You never need to actually nuke your enemy, you just need them to believe you can and then you'll never have to.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Tell me how they will have a bad time. Please be specific.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
They will get shot.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Haha. Shoot who?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Just what do you think would happen if let’s say 30 of us tomorrow organized and shot quote unquote “a few of them”? The police are just going to cheer? Secret service will step aside? No one will try to apprehend us? And if they do and we mow down 2 cop cars who will try to kill us, all the brothers in blue will say that they themselves had it coming and for the rest to stand down?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
We can’t even organize to protest. What makes you think that we will conduct combat missions? We will kiss our families goodbye forever to never see them again? For what? A semi auto ban? A relaxing of the borders? More taxes? I’m curious to what it would realistically take? Because other than a house to house where the government decides to kill all occupants and or put them in re-education camps (which is far fetched) , it ain’t happening. How much worse can it realistically get? For us to get like NY has gotten? California? Portland?
How about Europe?
How about Europe?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If you lived in Venezuela, and 2 years ago you had a nice job, a brand new F150 and now you just watched your neighbors (who are doctors) have to eat their dog, who are you going to shoot ?
It may not matter much who, you're damn well going to be ready to shoot someone.