the Responsible Body Armor Possession Act

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Blimey said:
Based on your reading is the expiry date of ceramic mostly (or entirely) bullshit? And recognize at least in my case this stuff is sitting on a dark shelf or something so I'm not out on tour for five years knocking it around.
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That sounds correct.

Sitting in your basement really doesn't cause any wear and tear like bouncing around in a hot and cold truck of a vehicle will cause.

I think the 5years is more for warranty and certification than anything. I think what the manufacturer says is they can't certify them for longer than 5 years. It could just be an NIJ rule. I don't know.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
That sounds correct.

Sitting in your basement really doesn't cause any wear and tear like bouncing around in a hot and cold truck of a vehicle will cause.

I think the 5years is more for warranty and certification than anything. I think what the manufacturer says is they can't certify them for longer than 5 years. It could just be an NIJ rule. I don't know.
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I bet it's contractual.

"The armor must come with a minimum of a 5 year warranty"

"5 years it is".

If government contracts called for 5 year warranties on cinderblocks, you can bet that's what they'd all have, and not a day longer.
 
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Okay so the RMA Level IV is 8lbs something, is one of the only plates in this price range NIJ certified, and it is level IV rated. With a carrier it would be $350 all-in. Considering the steel armor really has to be coated, I don't see a much better price elsewhere. Maybe save $50 and get III+ in steel for similar weight but why do that when one could have certified level IV instead?
 
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Blimey said:
Okay so the RMA Level IV is 8lbs something, is one of the only plates in this price range NIJ certified, and it is level IV rated. With a carrier it would be $350 all-in. Considering the steel armor really has to be coated, I don't see a much better price elsewhere. Maybe save $50 and get III+ in steel for similar weight but why do that when one could have certified level IV instead?
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I already have steel, so this is what I'm going to do next.

If you're on a budget this seems like a good carrier.
lapolicegear.com

LA Police Gear Atlas MOLLE Plate Carrier

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It's a decent low priced choice. You can do that carrier, 2 of the level 4 plates and a few pouches for around $350 and that would be a totally fine conversation piece to have " just in case" or to have just because the government doesn't want us to ;)
 
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Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2020/05/below-the-radar-responsible-body-armor-possession-act/#ixzz6Q0NDF5os
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There are some efforts to restrict or ban possession of body armor in Congress.

One of those efforts is HR 4568, the Responsible Body Armor Possession Act, introduced by Representative Grace Meng (D-NY). This legislation makes it illegal for civilians to own Level III body armor after the enactment of the bill.


Now, this ban isn’t a full ban in the way that Beto O’Rourke and Eric Swalwell want to ban the AR-15. Those who bought Level III armor before the bill becomes law will be allowed to keep it. Afterwards, though, buying or possessing Level III armor becomes a federal felony with a sentence of up to 10 years.
According to the National Institutes of Justice, part of the Justice Department, Level III body armor can stop any round up to 7.61x51mm NATO rounds. At one store, a given set of body armor comes in at around $440, which is a little less than half the price of a Mossberg 930 SPX autoloading shotgun.
 
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b) Enhanced body armor defined.—Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:



“(36) The term ‘enhanced body armor’ means body armor, including a helmet or shield, the ballistic resistance of which meets or exceeds the ballistic performance of Type III armor, determined using such standard as the National Institute of Justice has in effect at the time at which a person purchases, owns, or possesses such armor.”.
 
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With the SCOTUS making rulings that "DEFENSE" of ones person/life, being protected, I cannot see how "PASSIVE" protection can be made into being unlawful! Utterly ridiculous! Non enforceable either... Or wait, I guess Stop & Frisk will be ok to find all those law abiding citizens wearing body armor!
 
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It Seems They Want To Ban Body Armor.

H.R.4568 - Responsible Body Armor Possession Act 116th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 4568 To prohibit the purchase, ownership, or possession of enhanced body armor by civilians, with exceptions. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES September 27, 2019 Ms. Meng (for herself, Mr. Quigley...
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livingston said:
This legislation makes it illegal for civilians to own Level III body armor after the enactment of the bill.
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If it is illegal for some, it is illegal for ALL.
Police = civilians.
Military = civilians.
Politicians = civilians.


none of this "except for..." bullshit is Constitutional!
If I can't have more than 10 rounds, The Tyrant's bodyguards can't either!

I'm so tired of this shit.
 
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I don't have one , but Now I might have to buy one WTF
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Lots of good deals on some good armor out there. I ordered a decent set up from Spartan Armor.

www.spartanarmorsystems.com

Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Body Armor and Spartan Swimmers Cut Plate Carrier Entry Level Package

Spartan Armor Systems® Entry Level Body Armor Package includes our Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Steel Plates that provide Level III protection, along with our mobile Spartan Swimmers Cut Plate Carrier.
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Grimscale said:
If it is illegal for some, it is illegal for ALL.
Police = civilians.
Military = civilians.
Politicians = civilians.


none of this "except for..." bullshit is Constitutional!
If I can't have more than 10 rounds, The Tyrant's bodyguards can't either!

I'm so tired of this shit.
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This is what I’ve been preaching. In all honesty when the liberals or the radical left get all the gun bans they need, what is their next step? Ban knives? Ban steel toe boots just incase you kick someone’s ass?
 
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Grimscale said:
If it is illegal for some, it is illegal for ALL.
Police = civilians.
Military = civilians.
Politicians = civilians.


none of this "except for..." bullshit is Constitutional!
If I can't have more than 10 rounds, The Tyrant's bodyguards can't either!

I'm so tired of this shit.
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My issue is more that they are trying to make this product illegal, over exemptions that they try to hide in these bills/laws.
 
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Tough to know just what to get... Some of these plates expire ... If a ban is in place you would want the longest lasting ones as one could get. If we have massive strife in the coming years could be a life saver. Having one just to wear at the range in case you have some asshole shooting next to you ... would also be good to have .
 
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livingston said:
Tough to know just what to get... Some of these plates expire ... If a ban is in place you would want the longest lasting ones as one could get. If we have massive strife in the coming years could be a life saver. Having one just to wear at the range in case you have some asshole shooting next to you ... would also be good to have .
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If you want maximum life span steel is the way to go
 
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Maybe ban body armor so they could win the next civil war? :idk: What do they accomplish with banning this though? I don’t recall criminals or mass shooting terrorist wearing these. Only in the movies ..... oh wait all gun controls get their ideas from movies. No wonder John Wick got to shoot his Fully Semi Auto in NYC with a 30 round mag without a permit.
 
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Never thought about wearing one at the range ... Then you had one fellow off himself at the firing pin a few years ago
Self-inflicted fatal gunshot wound at public gun range in Bergen
posted by Billie Owens in bergen.
Shortly before noon, Bergen fire and an ambulance were called to The Firing Pin for an accidental gunshot to the head. The incident is a fatality. Sheriff's investigators are on scene.
The Bergen facility is a public indoor shooting range, retail gun shop and firearms training center located at 8240 Buffalo Road, between Parkview Drive and Route 33.
UPDATE 12:40 p.m.: The Sheriff's Office has confirmed this is a suicide and there will be no additional information released.

Self-inflicted fatal gunshot wound at public gun range in Bergen

Shortly before noon, Bergen fire and an ambulan
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I was shooting there a few days before .... Some folks want to take others out with them for some strange reason ...
 
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GOPerfect said:
Lots of good deals on some good armor out there. I ordered a decent set up from Spartan Armor.

www.spartanarmorsystems.com

Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Body Armor and Spartan Swimmers Cut Plate Carrier Entry Level Package

Spartan Armor Systems® Entry Level Body Armor Package includes our Spartan™ Omega™ AR500 Steel Plates that provide Level III protection, along with our mobile Spartan Swimmers Cut Plate Carrier.
www.spartanarmorsystems.com www.spartanarmorsystems.com
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Nice stuff, I bought my own setup when it was looking Hillary might win.

Need to start checking around and find something for my wife.
 
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Just like masks to protect one from the virus we all need body armor to protect us from mass shootings! :p
 
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livingston said:
www.bodyarmornews.com

50 Things People Didn’t Know About Bulletproof Vests

The bulletproof vest… it’s the one item in a police officer’s job that they take for granted. Read all facts about bulletproof vests here.
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Twenty-six Things You Did not Know About Bullet Proof Vests
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Whenever I see the "bullet resistant not bullet proof" thing it irritates me.


The armor *is* bullet proof. Vests of each design *are* proof tested against specific ballistic threats.

"Proof" is testing, not a guarantee of absolute performance against evert conceivable threat.

So, your NIJ level 2 vest *is* "bulletproof" but your home brew 1/2" ar500 plate covered in duct tape isn't.

Despite the fact that the home brew armor will stop much more significant threats than the level 2 vest.
 
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Grimscale said:
If it is illegal for some, it is illegal for ALL.
Police = civilians.
Military = civilians.
Politicians = civilians.


none of this "except for..." bullshit is Constitutional!
If I can't have more than 10 rounds, The Tyrant's bodyguards can't either!

I'm so tired of this shit.
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This is why it irks me so much when they rule on shit that is not in the constitution and claim the whole "equal protection under the law crap".
 
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