Things are heating up in the Donbass

[Defilade]

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TRUMP: “[Zelenskyy] is maybe the greatest salesman of any politician that's ever lived. Every time he comes to our country, he walks away with $60 billion...It never ends.”

“I will have that settled prior to taking the White House as President-elect. I will have that settled.”

 

[spat]

It’s not the same: it’s like your neighbor who is so rich he should have had security guards and a security system in place expects you to pay for and make right his failures

He just expects help to come and remove the home invaders.

Sure, he might be a rich asshole, but that doesn't mean you want to let home invasions become a thing.

The world is a much much safer place than it's ever been *because* many countries don't think they need a massive military to defend themselves.

Once you have that defensive military, there is always a temptation to use is for offensive gains. Many countries are just one charismatic leader away from becoming tyrants. In lots of places a strong military would be very tempted to take over the civilian government if it thinks it isn't "doing things right". Best not to hand them a fully armed military if they don’t want one.

I don't really trust *our* government with the military we have, it's a necessary evil because the risk of not having it is so great. But the fewer countries that have a strong military, the better off we are.

 

[Defilade]

Fuck Ukraine! Big Money Laundering pit!

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Found missing Ukraine War funding in Idaho…

… and seemingly why Idaho is denying water to 500,000 acres of farmland.

Funding AND water rerouting to prop up cobalt mining in Idaho. Probably just another one of those coincidences.

 

[holdover]

CNN-Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned Western countries they’re taking a “very serious and dangerous step” by supplying weapons to Ukraine, which could result in Moscow arming their enemies.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/europe/putin-russia-western-nations-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html

Thats just fucking great. Fucking retard leaders set us back 50 years . North Korea, Iran , could soon have ICBMS , why? because We have fucking Idiot leaders that cant see past noon tommorrow.

 

[Mosinitis]

U.S. has more enemies and more targets around the world. What do they say about people who live in glass houses?

It's not just Biden, it's the entire American establishment that just couldn't stop at the break up of the Soviet Union. Historical record is very clear about who is the biggest threat to the world peace.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

CNN-Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned Western countries they’re taking a “very serious and dangerous step” by supplying weapons to Ukraine, which could result in Moscow arming their enemies.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/europe/putin-russia-western-nations-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html

Thats just fucking great. Fucking retard leaders set us back 50 years . North Korea, Iran , could soon have ICBMS , why? because We have fucking Idiot leaders that cant see past noon tommorrow.

This is what happens when we are run by assholes who have never had any real world experience but are insulated living in insulated bureaucratic silos who only care about special interests, higher profit and increasing their personal power and don't understand how the actual world works.

 

[MothMan]

NK may soon be supplying Russia with millions of artillery rounds.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

NK may soon be supplying Russia with millions of artillery rounds.

And Russia may be supplying them advanced technologies as well to increase their capabilities.

The world is so much worse off now than in 2020. Anyone who voted for Biden because they just couldn't stomach the idea of voting for the bad orange man, welp, this shit is on all you guys. You are all partially responsible for the world going off the rails and all the global instability.

 

[Mosinitis]

If either country is invaded it requires immediate military assistance - newly signed treaty between Russia and North Korea that mirrors the old Soviet treaty.

 

[Mosinitis]

There is also resurgence of friendship and cooperation between Russia and Vietnam as evident from Putin's visit. Most of Vietnamese intelligentsia and military top brass were educated in Soviet Union and Russia.

 

[holdover]

I guess NK, Iran and China can now send ""mercenaries"" to Ukraine . Things are just getting better and better. Hopefully it wont go South before elections and we get someone in there that would like to cool things down

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I guess NK, Iran and China can now send ""mercenaries"" to Ukraine . Things are just getting better and better. Hopefully it wont go South before elections and we get someone in there that would like to cool things down

I'm pretty convinced they're trying to escalate it before elections....

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

An atacms missile killed Russian civilians in crimea

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-three-killed-nearly-100-wounded-ukrainian-atacms-attack-crimea-2024-06-23/

Not good. We should not be involved.

 

[Defilade]

Ukraine lunch US ATACMS Missiles into Crimea today. This after Joe Biden & The West granted Ukraine permissions to strike Russian soil using American weaponry. You are all witnessing the early days of World War Three in real time.

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[Drinkthekoolaid]

Ukraine lunch US ATACMS Missiles into Crimea today. This after Joe Biden & The West granted Ukraine permissions to strike Russian soil using American weaponry. You are all witnessing the early days of World War Three in real time.

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Many here have been warning of exactly this or a very similar situation occurring. It was inevitable.

Now the next most likely thing to anticipate, if I was Russia without hesitation the next time an American drone is running recon over the Black Sea it's getting splashed. This is where the ISR comes from. IMO Russia would be justified in defending themselves by shooting down our drones.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

Ja Beyedan neads dabait cansulled. 99 luft Balloons.

 

[spat]

If either country is invaded it requires immediate military assistance - newly signed treaty between Russia and North Korea that mirrors the old Soviet treaty.

As if anyone would *want* to invade North Korea

There is zero to be gained but a massive ball pain of uneducated refugees to deal with..

They're even *less* desirable than Russia, and that's hard to do.

 

[holdover]

An atacms missile killed Russian civilians in crimea

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-three-killed-nearly-100-wounded-ukrainian-atacms-attack-crimea-2024-06-23/

Not good. We should not be involved.

They want Russia to bite. Anything to bring NATO into the fight. Ukraine is lost . The only thing that can save her now is NATO .
Putin isnt going to take the bait . plus the west is hemorrhaging cash at a ridiculous pace .

 

[Mosinitis]

As if anyone would *want* to invade North Korea

There is zero to be gained but a massive ball pain of uneducated refugees to deal with..

They're even *less* desirable than Russia, and that's hard to do.

Korea was occupied by the Japanese for 35 years and South Korea is occupied by the U.S. for seven decades.

N.K. is a nuclear power. They are better educated than Americans.

 

[spat]

Korea was occupied by the Japanese for 35 years and South Korea is occupied by the U.S. for seven decades.

N.K. is a nuclear power. They are better educated than Americans.

Wow, and I thought the ice wall was the dumbest comment we were going to see on this forum...

Yea, South Korea would be worth conquering, but North Korea ? Invading north Korea is like pickpocketing in a homeless encampment. Just because it's *near* somewhere nice doesn't mean it is a good plan LOL.

 

[Mosinitis]

Wow, and I thought the ice wall was the dumbest comment we were going to see on this forum...

Yea, South Korea would be worth conquering, but North Korea ? Invading north Korea is like pickpocketing in a homeless encampment. Just because it's *near* somewhere nice doesn't mean it is a good plan LOL.

The facts stand.

 

[spat]

The facts stand.

They certainly do, I'm just not sure you would recognize them.

 

[holdover]

Russia shoots down US reaper drone over the Black sea (Unconfirmed. )

 

[Mosinitis]

Russia shoots down US reaper drone over the Black sea (Unconfirmed. )

U.S. ambassador was summoned by Russian Foreign Ministry and told terrorist attack on the beach goers of Sevastopol by U.S. supplied and guided missiles will not go unanswered.

 

[holdover]

As if anyone would *want* to invade North Korea

There is zero to be gained but a massive ball pain of uneducated refugees to deal with..

They're even *less* desirable than Russia, and that's hard to do.

Invading NK isnt the problem. fighting them is the problem. Say things get hot in Ukraine , or Israel invades Lebanon and Iran jumps in on thier side.Maybe the chineese see an opprotuinty in Taiwan, then NK gets froggy because US assets are spread thin and decides its the right time to unify Korea. the US has major military commitments to Ukraine right now If it gets involved in a war somewhere, opportunities are going to arise

 

[holdover]

U.S. ambassador was summoned by Russian Foreign Ministry and told terrorist attack on the beach goers of Sevastopol by U.S. supplied and guided missiles will not go unanswered.

US is denying the incident

 

[spat]

Invading NK isnt the problem. fighting them is the problem. Say things get hot in Ukraine , or Israel invades Lebanon and Iran jumps in on thier side.Maybe the chineese see an opprotuinty in Taiwan, then NK gets froggy because US assets are spread thin and decides its the right time to unify Korea. the US has major military commitments to Ukraine right now If it gets involved in a war somewhere, opportunities are going to arise

South Korea is quite capable of repelling the North all by themselves. They're only dangerous because Seoul is within artillery range of the border, and Kim has a few nukes.

The balance of military power is *not* what it was in the 1950s.

And I certainly wouldn't describe the situation in Ukraine as a "major military commitment" by the US.

That's like describing a trip to goodwill after spring cleaning as a "major commitment to supporting the underprivileged".

The actual US support for Ukraine isn't even a rounding error in our defense budget. The majority of the taxpayer dollars being sent aren't even supporting the war, they're just being laundered and funneled back our own politicians and defense contractors.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

South Korea is quite capable of repelling the North all by themselves. They're only dangerous because Seoul is within artillery range of the border, and Kim has a few nukes.

The balance of military power is *not* what it was in the 1950s.

And I certainly wouldn't describe the situation in Ukraine as a "major military commitment" by the US.

That's like describing a trip to goodwill after spring cleaning as a "major commitment to supporting the underprivileged".

The actual US support for Ukraine isn't even a rounding error in our defense budget. The majority of the taxpayer dollars being sent aren't even supporting the war, they're just being laundered and funneled back our own politicians and defense contractors.

A few points why I think @holdover had a good take,

NK has by many estimates anywhere from 30-50 nuclear warheads. And potentially more because no one really knows.

NK has a million man army that has been toughened up eating grass and dirt for half their lives living in squalor and pledging total loyalty to their death to dear leader while South Korea is so pampered and is very effeminate and can't even have enough sex to not have population loss. The south has a clear technology advantage but I think there are some intangibles here. Especially if the north starts getting some technological assistance from Russia which is very likely.


The US has given Ukraine priority for ALL new Patriot missiles to be delivered to. No orders are going to any other country even if they ordered them before.
Israel will very likely deplete their iron dome reserves (when) Hezbollah attacks and will likely resort to some very harsh tactics when that occurs.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that all these separate hotzones around the world flare up near simultaneously as the local belligerents decide now is the time to act while the west is preoccupied elsewhere and spread too thin especially before the US election. It's certainly possible. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[holdover]

And I certainly wouldn't describe the situation in Ukraine as a "major military commitment" by the US.

Somehow that doesn't surprise me . We've depleted our own stock piles and still cant supply Ukraine with enough arms W'eve spent hundred of billions of dollars with no end in sight . How deep do you think this well goes? We cant produce enough arms for Ukraine now, We just dont have the manufacturing capacity.

Its more than a money issue , its a manufacturing/ logistical capacity. For instance, the US has increased its manufacturing capacity of 155 rounds to 30k per month, the minimum amount required per day in Ukraine is 6000. So the US can supply one weeks worth of 155 rounds per month. thats a major deficit that cant be overcome quickly . Now, We are supplying Israel and Ukraine the best we can , If NK decides to attack the south, We dont have much to send them , Sure we can write a check, but theres nothing left on the shelves to buy. That goes for other weapon systems too. if the production is x and the requirement is xxx, theres a problem .

the second issue is that since Russia and NK have signed a miliary pact. it is in Russias best interest to supply NK with the latest and best antiship /anti aircraft, anti tank , and cruise missiles.

Were being spread thin, it is an issue.

 

[Mosinitis]

Russia is going to issue work visas to North Koreans to work in the Russian factories. There is labor shortage in Russia. It stands to reason some of them will volunteer (to use the word loosely) to fight in Ukraine. NK will get people with real modern warfare experience when they come back. Mutual benefit for both countries.