The biggest socialist program in America is Social Security Administration. Which acts of violence did it take to force the government to create it?
This cant be true! Are we doomed? Four in 10 Americans Embrace Some Form of Socialism
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The biggest socialist program in America is Social Security Administration. Which acts of violence did it take to force the government to create it?
speedkills27
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Try not payin into it and see what happens
Try not payin into it and see what happens
No different then any other law and plenty of people work off the books with government knowing about it.
speedkills27
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Let me be more specific. If you dont pay into Social Security, or taxes in general, men with guns come and put you in a cage. IN this example the victim is "society", that is alot different then say robbery were there is an actual victim
@thewheels
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Try not payin into it and see what happens
My point exactly
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@thewheels
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Completely different from other laws.
You're equating government theft with laws that go against rape or murder and the like.
libertysnake
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I'd like to know what the question was to generate these numbers.
I'm sure if they posed the question in a different way, we'd get vastly different results. For example:
"Do you support the government making major medical decisions about your health?"
Now 0/10 Americans support socialism according to the same poll, probably.
I'm sure if they posed the question in a different way, we'd get vastly different results. For example:
"Do you support the government making major medical decisions about your health?"
Now 0/10 Americans support socialism according to the same poll, probably.
Look up the stats of how many people work off the books and how many get prosecuted for it. Saying that social programs have violence associated with them because they have the power of the law is a dodge.
@thewheels
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Society wouldn't be a victim if there had never been that fuckin' ponzi scheme.
speedkills27
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thats kind of explained lower in the article, check out the chart labeled "Majority Want Free Market to Lead on Many Fronts"
speedkills27
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What does people working off the books have to do with the fact that Americans are changing their views on socialism again?
@thewheels
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This argument is a dodge. Whether the system is efficient enough to catch every fish or not is irrelevant.
STFU and help me with these cans!
Bigfoot
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It shows that what I responded to was simply not true. When pressed into a corner about social programs that most rational people will find
reasonable, some one here shifted the argument to violence that goes with these programs. When "violence" part was discredited as BS, the argument shifted to a possible violence that comes from the power of the law. Saying something stupid in a first place leads to a chain reaction of stupidity.
It's not a question of efficient system. This is simply not pursued at the employee level. Your argument was a giant leap into a giant lie.
@thewheels
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Full retard you just went.
You're arguing like a true socialist. When it suits you, throw out the L word. I didn't make one false statement. In any comment.
If you're referring to willfully skipping out on paying your social security taxes, in most cases it's a felony and everybody knows the government totally looks the other way and is so nonchalant when it comes to felonies.
This country isn't what it is because of the benefits of creeping socialism over the last several decades. It is what it is (or what's left of it) in spite of it.
speedkills27
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This is my last post on this because im fairly confused what your argument even is anymore. The idea of the data is to show how Americans views and the way Americans define socialism is changing. In the beginning of the article they talk about how more Americans are shifting their definition of socialism away from "government controlling commerce" to "social equality". I believe its easy for most middle of the road Americans to recognize government control over businesses as a bad thing, but socialism under the guise of social justice is much more insidious. Its alot easier for socialists and marxists to point at inequalities between people and then sell the people on using the power of government to "level the field". Equality of opportunity does NOT equal equality of outcome, and its the equality of outcome that the social justice warriors are out to "fix". Reading further into the article brings back some hope. There is a chart showing that most Americans still believe that capitalism and free markets are the way through the future. It seems you got hung up on my click baity title to the thread and then went off the deep end from there. I dont mind some social programs ,as I'v said earlier, but I do believe that the private sector can, and often does, offer a better and more efficient solution to the problem.
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Let's revisit this after you've made a point.
You took a very extreme position against any government social net program. To defend your extreme position, you used an argument that falls short.
Next time our government will try to overthrow the government in another country so I can make a bunch of money off of it, we can talk about equality of opportunity.
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