Town Of Milan , Traffic Stop Leads To Gun Arrest ?
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Trauma47645
.357 mag
But everyone keeps saying that the police are PRO 2A...
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
"charged with possessing a loaded handgun without a New York State pistol license."
"Swartley was released on his own recognizance pending a future court appearance"
More to this!
"Swartley was released on his own recognizance pending a future court appearance"
More to this!
4excal
.338 Win Mag
Well, as anything in life..some are what they are and others will be what they'll be..generalization never ever works..not with babies being cute, not with jewish people frugal, not with Italians being in the mafia and definitely not with all LEOs being 2A(which indeed they may actually be, that doesn't mean they may not have a stick up their arse or power trip) but most importantly if what @Greywolf224 posted is the gist, then a loaded handgun without NY permit is breaking a law in this state badly, not a 2A pro or not pro issue..
So because of the drivers ignorance, the Police are to blame?
Seriously, you can't make this shit up. You believe this is the coppers fault?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
NY is the only bullshit state that requires a permit for possession of a pistol.. So yes I do blame the revenuer for not using discretion in enforcing an unconstitutional law
First, check your facts, apparently you do not know many. NY State is absolutely not the only State that requires a Permit.
Second, personal responsibility... If you are going to travel, check the laws in the States that you will be traveling too.
Seems really simple to me. Googling is VERY easy.
Second, personal responsibility... If you are going to travel, check the laws in the States that you will be traveling too.
Seems really simple to me. Googling is VERY easy.
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Educate me then.. What other state requires a permit to possess a pistol?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
district of columbia is not a state..
Yeah, no shit...
What's your point? I listed a link for all individual States and regions in the US that require a Permit. Trying to assist you in not sounding so ignorant.
Trauma47645
.357 mag
umm your link just showed all the gun laws for every state..
and i pointed out that the only one that requires a permit for possession for everyone other than NY is DC
and i pointed out that the only one that requires a permit for possession for everyone other than NY is DC
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Was he driving a mobile home?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
what does that have to do with the price of tea in china..
maybe he is living in his vehicle
maybe he is living in his vehicle
I pointed out with that link that you above statement was completely wrong!
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Not needing a license to posses is for in your home, No?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
"District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held in a 5-4 decision that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution applies to federal enclaves and protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, SUCH AS self-defense within the home."
It does not limit possession to within the home..
bo99
22lr
no you still need PERMIT even just for on premise
Trauma47645
.357 mag
ONLY in the state of NY
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
In NY yes! Have you read all of the posts?
bo99
22lr
yes only in new york i have my PA permit as well as a few other states and NY residents must have a permit no matter to have one in NY
Again, NOT True. There are other States that require one as well. Stop spewing FALSE statements.
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Dont worry we will wait
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Still waiting Mr. Smarty Pants lawman
California – Permit to Purchase: California requires a Firearm Safety Certificate (“FSC”) prior to purchase of any firearm. The FSC is valid for 5 years. This requirement is currently only applicable to handguns, but will become applicable to all firearms as of January 1, 2015.
Connecticut – Permit to Purchase: 27 Connecticut requires a person who wishes to purchase or receive a handgun to obtain either a permit to carry a handgun or a handgun eligibility certificate.
Hawaii – Permit to Possess and Purchase: In Hawaii, anyone wishing to acquire a firearm must obtain a permit from the county chief of police
Illinois – License to Purchase or Possess: In Illinois, no person may acquire or possess any firearm or ammunition without a valid Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card
Massachusetts – License to Possess and Permit to Purchase: In Massachusetts, all firearm possessors are required to obtain either a Firearm Identification (FID) card or a Class A or B license to carry a firearm.
States Requiring Licenses or Permits for Handguns Only: Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina and Rhode Island all require licenses or permits for purchase or possession of handguns only
License is required for possession of any firearm (D.C., Illinois, Massachusetts), and must be shown prior to purchase of any firearm (California, Connecticut, Hawaii, New Jersey)
Connecticut – Permit to Purchase: 27 Connecticut requires a person who wishes to purchase or receive a handgun to obtain either a permit to carry a handgun or a handgun eligibility certificate.
Hawaii – Permit to Possess and Purchase: In Hawaii, anyone wishing to acquire a firearm must obtain a permit from the county chief of police
Illinois – License to Purchase or Possess: In Illinois, no person may acquire or possess any firearm or ammunition without a valid Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) card
Massachusetts – License to Possess and Permit to Purchase: In Massachusetts, all firearm possessors are required to obtain either a Firearm Identification (FID) card or a Class A or B license to carry a firearm.
States Requiring Licenses or Permits for Handguns Only: Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina and Rhode Island all require licenses or permits for purchase or possession of handguns only
License is required for possession of any firearm (D.C., Illinois, Massachusetts), and must be shown prior to purchase of any firearm (California, Connecticut, Hawaii, New Jersey)
Trauma47645
.357 mag
permit to purchase does not equal permit to possess..
Further more your statements about Illinois and Massachusetts only apply to residents of those states.. Non Residents can possess a pistol without a permit in those states..
Massachusetts statute
MGL C.140 § 131G is very clear about this:
"Any person who is not a resident of the commonwealth may carry a pistol or revolver in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of taking part in a pistol or revolver competition or attending any meeting or exhibition of any organized group of firearm collectors or for the purpose of hunting; provided, that such person is a resident of the United States and has a permit or license to carry firearms issued under the laws of any state, district or territory thereof which has licensing requirements which prohibit the issuance of permits or licenses to persons who have been convicted of a felony or who have been convicted of the unlawful use, possession or sale of narcotic or harmful drugs; provided, further, that in the case of a person traveling in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of hunting, he has on his person a hunting or sporting license issued by the commonwealth or by the state of his destination. Police officers and other peace officers of any state, territory or jurisdiction within the United States duly authorized to possess firearms by the laws thereof shall, for the purposes of this section, be deemed to have a permit or license to carry firearms as described in this section."
Illinois Statute
Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition. Non residents are not required to have an Illinois FOID Card.
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
Further more your statements about Illinois and Massachusetts only apply to residents of those states.. Non Residents can possess a pistol without a permit in those states..
Massachusetts statute
MGL C.140 § 131G is very clear about this:
"Any person who is not a resident of the commonwealth may carry a pistol or revolver in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of taking part in a pistol or revolver competition or attending any meeting or exhibition of any organized group of firearm collectors or for the purpose of hunting; provided, that such person is a resident of the United States and has a permit or license to carry firearms issued under the laws of any state, district or territory thereof which has licensing requirements which prohibit the issuance of permits or licenses to persons who have been convicted of a felony or who have been convicted of the unlawful use, possession or sale of narcotic or harmful drugs; provided, further, that in the case of a person traveling in or through the commonwealth for the purpose of hunting, he has on his person a hunting or sporting license issued by the commonwealth or by the state of his destination. Police officers and other peace officers of any state, territory or jurisdiction within the United States duly authorized to possess firearms by the laws thereof shall, for the purposes of this section, be deemed to have a permit or license to carry firearms as described in this section."
Illinois Statute
Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition. Non residents are not required to have an Illinois FOID Card.
(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
OH now you're an Uppity Lawman Too! LOL!!!!!!