libertysnake
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Ask Tex Grebner.
And that’s why you practice with snap caps over and over till it’s second nature and you don’t do what this idiot did.
Traffic Stop While CCW !
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And that’s why you practice with snap caps over and over till it’s second nature and you don’t do what this idiot did.
Marine Cpl
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Ny cops cannot ask you if you are armed during a routine traffic stop if you aren't suspected of committing a crime.
Cops Can't Just Ask Motorists About Guns: NY Court
Marine Cpl
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That'll work. Or you can go the other route by saying, "Officer, I am a licensed concealed carrier and am currently doing so and am officially informing you before I step out of the vehicle. My firearm is on my left hip. How would you like me to proceed?"
Doc8404
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And he will be really surprised when he finds it on my right side!
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I've known Tex since before he added 2 new holes to his body and appeared on Tosh. O and he's always been a bit...different.
If asked that as first question when encountering a stop, the officer (in NY) would be violating your Rights...
Please be aware, that even with the knowledge of you having a firearm permit, this does not change court rulings which explicitly state you may not be stopped just on the basis of possessing a weapon. And absent a lawful duty to inform, I'm not sure I'd even answer the question, in all probability depending upon how its asked!
freddy
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This is precisely why the Blackhawk SERPA is a poor choice in a holster. Having the trigger finger operate the holster's retention release ain't ideal - to say the least. Many pistol training classes forbid the SERPA for this very reason.Ask Tex Grebner.
Celt
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There is no benefit to informing in my opinion. Additionally if you are going to carry why would you keep your license in a wallet that would possibly expose the fact that you are carrying?
Additionally, when being pulled over I always pull my wallet out of my front pocket and sit on my lap or between my legs so it's easy to reach, then I keep my hands on the steering wheel and my window down waiting for the officer to approach.
Also, I never store any weapons , ammunition, magazines, Etc where I keep my license and registration.
Additionally, when being pulled over I always pull my wallet out of my front pocket and sit on my lap or between my legs so it's easy to reach, then I keep my hands on the steering wheel and my window down waiting for the officer to approach.
Also, I never store any weapons , ammunition, magazines, Etc where I keep my license and registration.
Exactly. No better combo than a full size 1911 (even more betterest if it's in .380) and a serpa holster. Trust me one person I know uses that stuff so it' awesome
All sound points. When I see those under the steering wheel or between the seats rigs I cringe.
freddy
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I don't follow. Could you do some 'splainin please?
Or link me to thread where you explain.
Garbage (and I used to be dumb and made this mistake) when people off body carry in their car. Shit there is that post about alien gear the dude that shot himself but blamed the holster because he kept taking the gun in and out of the holster when he was in the car because he is lazy and dumb
1911 bestest gun in the world, won 2 world wars, JMBrowning
.380 well cause I bet you wont just stand there and let someone shoot you with a .380
Serpa. Um it's cheap and sounds cool and the better almost equally inexpensive active retention holsters are stupid
Bob
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The actual decision can be found here, if anyone wants to read it. FindLaw's Court of Appeals of New York case and opinions.
To me, the operative words in the decision are "without founded suspicion". I suspect that once the state gets the pistol permit database up and running, they'll be returning pistol permit status with DL status. That'll be the "founded suspicion" they need to start asking the questions.
Why, they would see it' a licensed person and just assume (most cops go up to all vehicles pretty much assuming the person in the car is armed) they have their gun on them and just go about their day
Celt
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Ill admit, i had an under the steering wheel holster mounted up and it was pretty well concealed, but since I typically carry a glock 43 I can sit carrying appendix without any discomfort so i removed it.
Bob
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The decision discusses carrying a weapon. It says nothing of he legality of the weapon or whether there is a permit to carry. Not saying it's right. Just saying that's what I believe will happen.
But again they already assume you would have it on you so again why would the even ask
Doc8404
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And I have used mine for seven years and never had an issue. Ohhhh wait. I don’t use it enough or in high stress situations.
freddy
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This thread? What is Faster? Appendix vs 4 o'clock?
Doc8404
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Not all of us are a stud like you LOL.
freddy
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I don't dispute your experience. Most SERPA users have not had a ND presumably. But to use this as a rationale is flawed... just like if I said smoking is safe because my grandpa lived to 104 and smoked 3 packs a day since he was 12 years old.
The fact that numerous trainers ban the SERPA does merit some consideration. It might indicate the shortcomings in the SERPA design. Regardless, using a thumb release has become the defacto method - perhaps in part because it is safer.
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Justincase
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Seems very foolhardy to disassemble a gun that requires pulling the trigger to disassemble it on the side of the road. What did he do with the round that was in the chamber? Those are hard enough to eject and not lose track of in the best of circumstances let alone the side of the road.
Doc8404
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masterswimmer
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freddy
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Fair enough. Certainly for you the SERPA may be as safe as any design. Not saying it does not work good for you. The point is that, overall for the masses, a thumb release is a safer design than a trigger finger release. Both conceptually and in the field.
SERPA banned - Google Search
Link results should allay any doubts.
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Toecutter
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When i get pulled over. I remove my info before the cop gets there. Hands on wheel window down. I hand the cop my ccw permit with my licence and reg. They always thank me and dont give me a ticket. Last summer I got pulled over doing 90 in a 55 by a trooper , he spent a few minutes talking about guns and let me go.
Certain cops such as a lunatic trooper named stamps I would not give the courtacy, this asshole will be screaming and cursing at you as soon as he gets put of his car. If you get pulled over by him don't inform him, from my limited expiriance with him he is a danger and should not have a badge.he is the reason I keep a camera running in my car. He is a time bomb waiting to go off, I've never met a less professional rude asshole such as him before in my life. I've seen this fuckbag pull somone over during morning rush and stand in the right lane screaming at traffic to move over while traffic is crawling at 10mph. The 3 Times ive delt with this guy has been on the taconic in yorktown 2 times doing 68 on a near empty parkway once seeing him yelling at traffic.
Certain cops such as a lunatic trooper named stamps I would not give the courtacy, this asshole will be screaming and cursing at you as soon as he gets put of his car. If you get pulled over by him don't inform him, from my limited expiriance with him he is a danger and should not have a badge.he is the reason I keep a camera running in my car. He is a time bomb waiting to go off, I've never met a less professional rude asshole such as him before in my life. I've seen this fuckbag pull somone over during morning rush and stand in the right lane screaming at traffic to move over while traffic is crawling at 10mph. The 3 Times ive delt with this guy has been on the taconic in yorktown 2 times doing 68 on a near empty parkway once seeing him yelling at traffic.
Phazer
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Exactly. It is inherently unsafe to allow some else to remove a pistol from your holster. So, that cannot be a valid police procedure. If it is, that department is eventually going to responsible for shooting a law-abiding concealed carrying citizen with their own firearm.
Phazer
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Ummm....if they pull you over, aren't you "suspected of committing a crime"...like: speeding, driving with defective signaling equipment, etc?