Trump says "We wont sacrifice gun rights to the slippery slope"

[Marine Cpl]

You're probably right. My inability to make a FN level machine gun blows my whole argument.

Sure does.

 

[Darth]

You can opt out by leaving and going to someplace where taxes aren’t collected.

No, I already own property and stuff here that would be a hassle to mov , I'd just prefer not to pay taxes.

We'll call it something clever like "no taxes if I am not getting anything out of it " or something.

Can't believe nobody has had that idea before. Seems like the kind of idea that would start a war.

 

[Darth]

Yes. You consent unless you leave or stay and pick up a gun and change it. But doing nothing making the situation worse isn’t a withdrawal of consent.

If I am in my house and somebody is fucking me in the ass, AND I happen to not like it at the time so I say "no more for me please, I withdraw consent", then why should I have to leave my house?

 

[Curmudgeon]

No, I already own property and stuff here that would be a hassle to mov , I'd just prefer not to pay taxes.

We'll call it something clever like "no taxes if I am not getting anything out of it " or something.

Can't believe nobody has had that idea before. Seems like the kind of idea that would start a war.

I call it "voluntaryism"

 

[Curmudgeon]

Sure does.

Honestly it kills me that you dont see all government as immoral. It's all using the threat of violence to force people to bend to their will. It appears that you're ok with that as long as it supports your views.

 

[Marine Cpl]

No, I already own property and stuff here that would be a hassle to mov , I'd just prefer not to pay taxes.

We'll call it something clever like "no taxes if I am not getting anything out of it " or something.

Can't believe nobody has had that idea before. Seems like the kind of idea that would start a war.

Why did you buy property in a place that charges you taxes or should I say, why did your parents buy property in a place that charges you taxes?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Honestly it kills me that you dont see all government as immoral. It's all using the threat of violence to force people to bend to their will. It appears that you're ok with that as long as it supports your views.

That’s too bad that you feel that way. I am for the constitution. I feel sorry that you don’t support it and instead support the way of life of people in Mogadishu.

 

[Curmudgeon]

That’s too bad that you feel that way. I am for the constitution. I feel sorry that you don’t support it and instead support the way of life of people in Mogadishu.

Can you explain that? The constitution says taxation is good? And that those who dont go down on Black Hawks?

 

[Darth]

Why did you buy property in a place that charges you taxes or should I say, why did your parents buy property in a place that charges you taxes?

Because I was not presented with an option not to, which I would have preferred.

And even if you make your own from scratch, they'll still just "invent" taxes as you go along to ensure you sure paying them, under that of force, to live in your own house on your own property.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Because I was not presented with an option not to, which I would have preferred.

And even if you make your own from scratch, they'll still just "invent" taxes as you go along to ensure you sure paying them, under that of force, to live in your own house on your own property.

They would only do that if it was for the children or 3d chess. Fuck me.

 

[Darth]

And that those who dont go down on Black Hawks?

Phrasing.

This forum: I'm good with living off the grid at a moments notice. I'm prepared for what comes, with or without government help.

Also this forum: No government = Somalia/Mogadishu and we'd all die.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Because I was not presented with an option not to, which I would have preferred.

And even if you make your own from scratch, they'll still just "invent" taxes as you go along to ensure you sure paying them, under that of force, to live in your own house on your own property.

You were free to move anywhere you wanted to once you turned 18. Mogadishu, Antarctica, the North Pole, etc. You didn’t own shit at that age and were free to go anywhere you liked.

 

[Darth]

You were free to move anywhere you wanted to once you turned 18. Mogadishu, Antarctica, the North Pole, etc. You didn’t own shit at that age and were free to go anywhere you liked.

As far as I know, you don't need to be 18 to move.

Where do we get to the bit where I opt out of the taxes to inhabit a property I own on land that is also mine?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Can you explain that? The constitution says taxation is good? And that those who dont go down on Black Hawks?

Can you explain that? The constitution says taxation is good? And that those who dont go down on Black Hawks?

You should read the constitution before you make statement like that.

 

[Darth]

CONSTITUTION FIGHT !

 

[Marine Cpl]

As far as I know, you don't need to be 18 to move.

Where do we get to the bit where I opt out of the taxes to inhabit a property I own on land that is also mine?

You can’t get to that bit. It was originally bought with the knowledge that taxes had to be paid on it. Sorry you weren’t at that little negotiation.

 

[Curmudgeon]

CONSTITUTION FIGHt !

This is the problem here. And at the last place. Not an honest argument to be found. Very few people willing to engage in anything beyond "no want Shrillary"; "O'Bummer is a Libtard".

Not sure if it's ignorance, dependence on the sound byte news culture or something else. But this blind allegiance the the big R mystifies me.

Stop. Read. Think.

No offense to those that offer genuine arguments.

That is all.

 

[Edwardteach72]

CONSTITUTION FIGHT !

@nortatoga

 

[Darth]

You can’t get to that bit. It was originally bought with the knowledge that taxes had to be paid on it. Sorry you weren’t at that little negotiation.

Wow, it kind of sucks when you have to pay for things against your will that you have no control over .

Doesn't it?

 

[Darth]

@nortatoga

Hunting I tells ya!

 

[Marine Cpl]

This is the problem here. And at the last place. Not an honest argument to be found. Very few people willing to engage in anything beyond "no want Shrillary"; "O'Bummer is a Libtard".

Not sure if it's ignorance, dependence on the sound byte news culture or something else. But this blind allegiance the the big R mystifies me.

Stop. Read. Think.

No offense to those that offer genuine arguments.

That is all.

So I take it you haven’t read the constitution in regards to taxation?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Hunting I tells ya!

Appleseeds.

 

[Curmudgeon]

So I take it you haven’t read the constitution in regards to taxation?

I was talking to someone else. Someone who doesn't believe in theft under threat of violence.

 

[Darth]

Appleseeds.

*some obscure quote refuting my own point*

 

[Kirk_STNY]

We could vote Libertarian

 

[Marine Cpl]

I was talking to someone else. Someone who doesn't believe in theft under threat of violence.

You mean like theft from another county coming here to take your shit because there is no infrastructure at all to repel foreign invaders because there is no government or money to create such an infrastructure?

You guys are funny. I see where you are coming from but at the same time you refuse to see what it would be like if the founders never created a government.

 

[Curmudgeon]

You mean like theft from another county coming here to take your shit because there is no infrastructure at all to repel foreign invaders because there is no government or money to create such an infrastructure?

You guys are funny. I see where you are coming from but at the same time you refuse to see what it would be like if the founders never created a government.

Pretty sure the government they created was way closer to what I espouse than what you do.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Pretty sure the government they created was way closer to what I espouse than what you do.

Article I, Section 2, Clause 3:

Representatives and direct taxesshall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers...[1]


Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:

The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Article I, Section 2, Clause 3:

Representatives and direct taxesshall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers...[1]


Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:

The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

YES!!! YES!!! Fuck me baby!!!

 

[FrankenCub]

All this POTUS bickering is quite funny. No matter who gets selected, we loose rights. No matter the speed in which it happens, we still loose. The Republic is lost. Much like watching someone die from cancer. I think it's time to call Hospice for the nation to administer the morphine so the end isn't so painful.