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UnitedHealthcare CEO shot, killed outside Midtown Manhattan hotel; suspect sought
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Robin
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Angry Subaru driver crashes car through dealership window after claiming he was denied refund: ‘Hit a breaking point’
“I told you mother f–kers! I told you!”
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Robin
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spat
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That sounds like a class action suit that should bankrupt them.
*that* is the way to handle it, not assassinating the CEO.
The cartridge box doesn't open until you're done with the jury box. And when it does, it's not some random corporate drone that you target anyway.
Hey, he had grievances, no problem for some folks! let the anarchy begin!!!!Angry Subaru driver crashes car through dealership window after claiming he was denied refund: ‘Hit a breaking point’
“I told you mother f–kers! I told you!”
Robin
Maybe the defective brakes failed, causing him to crash.
spat
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The insurance bro didn't deny anyone healthful. He just refused to pay for it.
It's breach of contract, not a threat to your life.
The people actually withholding care are the hospitals and doctors who are setting the price and refusing to treat you unless they get paid.
Not that they should be expected to work for free either.
The whole system is broken, but you have to remember, insurance companies don't refuse you service, they just refuse to pay for it. You are still free to buy it yourself.
spat
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Wouldn't be murder if a sniper laid in wait and shot a general in the back in a war.
You need to decide if this was a war or not though.
holdover
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Shooter had A license that belonged to a Mark Rosario , which is claimed to be a fake ID. However , I looked up the name and it belongs to a kid who went to the same school, Princeton, and bears a striking resemblance to the shooter.
ManualF150
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Hey, he had grievances, no problem for some folks! let the anarchy begin!!!!Angry Subaru driver crashes car through dealership window after claiming he was denied refund: ‘Hit a breaking point’
“I told you mother f–kers! I told you!”
Robin
Dude handled the matter in the wrong way.
I do like the charge of "Economic Disruption".
Wish we could charge the Xiden for "Economic Disruption"...
spat
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Yes, the real problem isn't a greedy corporation doing greedy stuff.
They're *supposed* to do that.
The real problem is that people no longer trust that the justice system is their remedy for that.
If your justice system can't be trusted to deliver justice, the it is useless.
This guy's anger was misplaced. The CEO was more or less doing what he's supposed to do.
But the judges and so forth who aren't holding the CEOs in check are the real villains here.
Not sure this guy ever even sued over his coverage, but that doesn't actually matter. The justice system failed when he (and millions like him) don't even try to sue because they know it's useless.
holdover
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The thing that doesnt fly with me is why sue? You would think a guy with a shit ton of money had great coverage, and even if he didnt , He had More than enough money to pay out of pocket .
spat
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The people who imported those immigrants are the real rot.
spat
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Not sure you can print a suppressor. A suppressor is essentially a pressure vessel, and PLA filament isn't exactly a great choice for that.
At least not a supressor good for more than one shot on a 3d printer that costs less than 6 figures.
If you want a cheap untracable suppressor you go to autozone and grab an oil filter.
Or you buy one of those long narrow "fuel filters" off ebay and expect a visit from the ATF.
spat
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Paying cash is rare.
Your credit/debit card has your name printed on it, so it is a form of ID.
But, don't think that was relevant. Guy probably wqs acting fruity and the employee recognized his picture from the news and put 2+2 together I would guess.
I probably wouldn't have called over that. Must be 100k guys out there between that McDs and NYC that look like that shitty surveillance footage.
spat
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I believe it is a quote from Hamlet that got adopted into the common vernacular.
The context it was used in the play is exactly what you think it is (Hamlet was about the ruling family of Denmark and a lot of corruption and castle intrigue).
spat
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You can get water soluable filament.
For when you really want the evidence to disappear.
spat
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Should have started a plumbing business with his brother.
Or a mushroom farm, one of the two.
spat
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But, apparently his family was rich enough to just pay out of pocket.
So, that would just mean this was about getting the money paid back ? Seems very odd.
spat
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If a targeted assassination isn't 1st degree, then WTF does it take ?
SECTION 125.27
Murder in the first degree
§ 125.27 Murder in the first degree.
A person is guilty of murder in the first degree when:
1. With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the
death of such person or of a third person; and
(a) Either:
(i) the intended victim was a police officer....
(ii) the intended victim was a peace officer...
(ii-a) the intended victim was a firefighter, emergency medical
technician, ambulance driver, paramedic, physician or registered nurse
involved in a first response team, or any other individual who, in the
course of official duties...
(iii) the intended victim was an employee of a state correctional
institution or was an employee of a local correctional facility...
(iv) at the time of the commission of the killing, the defendant was
confined in a state correctional institution or was otherwise in custody
upon a sentence for the term of his natural life...
(v) the intended victim was a witness to a crime committed on a prior
occasion and the death was caused for the purpose of preventing the
intended victim's testimony in any criminal action,....
vi) the defendant committed the killing or procured commission of the
killing pursuant to an agreement with a person other than the intended...
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
spat
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So, only 2nd degree murder unless the victim was working for the government ?SECTION 125.27
Murder in the first degree
§ 125.27 Murder in the first degree.
A person is guilty of murder in the first degree when:
1. With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the
death of such person or of a third person; and
(a) Either:
(i) the intended victim was a police officer....
(ii) the intended victim was a peace officer...
(ii-a) the intended victim was a firefighter, emergency medical
technician, ambulance driver, paramedic, physician or registered nurse
involved in a first response team, or any other individual who, in the
course of official duties...
(iii) the intended victim was an employee of a state correctional
institution or was an employee of a local correctional facility...
(iv) at the time of the commission of the killing, the defendant was
confined in a state correctional institution or was otherwise in custody
upon a sentence for the term of his natural life...
(v) the intended victim was a witness to a crime committed on a prior
occasion and the death was caused for the purpose of preventing the
intended victim's testimony in any criminal action,....
vi) the defendant committed the killing or procured commission of the
killing pursuant to an agreement with a person other than the intended...
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
www.nysenate.gov
And people wonder why there's no trust in the justice system to deliver justice.
A bit deeper than that, but yes. Murder 1 is rare in NY
spat
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I looked at the list, that seems to be the criteria.
The concept that a person's murder is less heinous if their job is not related to government maintaining power is abhorrent.
ManualF150
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I agree. You don't judge someone by their job/duty.
I never agreed with the fact of who is on that list gets preferential treatment.
Someone murders someone, it's should be punishable by the highest ranked offense.
There are plenty of folks like me on this forum that would like to see not prison time, but that idiot be hung by a rope for his actions. Possibly even be put out for 24 hours and be tortured by we the people, then hung, if they don't pass from being tortured.
Criminals: Good thing folks like me are not in charge of the system, I'd have too much fun with y'all.
spat
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Yea, the way it's written, if you kill the guy who's been sleeping with your wife, it's murder 2 if he was an accountant, but murder 1 if he was a cop.I agree. You don't judge someone by their job/duty.
I never agreed with the fact of who is on that list gets preferential treatment.
Someone murders someone, it's should be punishable by the highest ranked offense.
There are plenty of folks like me on this forum that would like to see not prison time, but that idiot be hung by a rope for his actions. Possibly even be put out for 24 hours and be tortured by we the people, then hung, if they don't pass from being tortured.
Criminals: Good thing folks like me are not in charge of the system, I'd have too much fun with y'all.
That's just fundamentally wrong.
Agreed. More and more examples pop up of the separation of peoples in the US.
A year ago, if I were have been murdered in NY, Murder 1, today? Murder 2
ManualF150
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Ain't that something. You're a perfect example of that of being a former military. Don't feel right, doesn't it?
Shitty feeling isn't it?
I guess if I was murdered, I would not care if the charge was Murder 1 or murder 2....