We’re losing it, election results aren’t favorable

[Beerman]

So how can you shit on these people and then ask them for their vote? This is the exact attitude of zero outreach that is putting us in this situation.

If the Republicans had tried to appeal to the younger generation by pandering to their wants, most true conservatives would have broken off and fractured the party, just like we’re seeing now. Lose your identity in politics, and all is lost.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

If the Republicans had tried to appeal to the younger generation by pandering to their wants, most true conservatives would have broken off and fractured the party, just like we’re seeing now. Lose your identity in politics, and all is lost.

If the right came out and appealed financially, "you young kids will be working forever because by the time you are older social security will be insolvent due to wreckless spending by democrat social programs, burden of illegals and never ending wars yada yada yada....) They might be appealing as the adult voice in the room looking out for the younger generation still trying to find their way in life and hoping they can have a future.

 

[Catskillkid]

Coming to this thread late I know, but here's my take.

The Dobbs decision fucked us. I mean REALLY fucked us. Many people who would've otherwise sat this one out came out to vote for abortion rights. The hardcore religious faction of the GOP has been chasing its tale for decades ever since Roe vowing that they would overturn it and garnered votes that way. Well, the dog finally caught its tale and now it doesn't know what to do. Let's be frank, the national GOP has been primarily a single issue party (abortion) for decades now. They sure as shit haven't done all that much for the Second Amendment.

Most people regardless of race, class, etc. want abortion to be legal. Like it or not that is the reality. The fact that every sate, including red states, where abortion access has been on the ballot has seen access restrictions firmly voted down. It's a losing issue especially with the young and women.

The GOP isn't doing itself any favors either. Look at the in-fighting over the House Speakership. My county is a microcosm of that where we had a GOP majority but the in-fighting was out of control. Well at the last election almost every Republican county legislator is out and there's a Democrat supermajority. How's that going to work out now. Already here them talking about raising taxes to cover pet projects.

The public at large sees this and sees a party that can't govern. I have a friend who worked briefly for the RNC. All he did was send out mass emails to people asking for money. He quit after a few months he was so frustrated by it. That's what the GOP is these days. A money raising machine that doesn't even have its key issue (abortion) to get donations for anymore. The Right would rather fight with each other over who is the most ideologically pure and this is where it gets us up and down the ballot.

For the record, I won reelection for another term as Town Justice. One of the few Republicans that seemed to keep their job this past election day.

When I try to have conservations with the County Committee about outreach and involving youth it all falls on death ears. My same friend who worked for the RNC started a Young Republicans Club in the county. Do you think the County Committee would be happy? Nope. Absolutely zero shits were given. And they still pat themselves on the back for their website that looks like it was last updated in 1998. What a joke. That's all they need to do as far as they're concerned.

It's time for the good old boys to go. Let someone under the age of 65 take some responsibility and maybe we'll start winning elections again. I'm a firm believer that the Gen Y (oh which I am one) and Gen Z would be receptive to conservative values and politics if they were met at least partway and given a chance to be involved. But from where I sit that ain't going to happen anytime soon.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Coming to this thread late I know, but here's my take.

The Dobbs decision fucked us. I mean REALLY fucked us. Many people who would've otherwise sat this one out came out to vote for abortion rights. The hardcore religious faction of the GOP has been chasing its tale for decades ever since Roe vowing that they would overturn it and garnered votes that way. Well, the dog finally caught its tale and now it doesn't know what to do. Let's be frank, the national GOP has been primarily a single issue party (abortion) for decades now. They sure as shit haven't done all that much for the Second Amendment.

Most people regardless of race, class, etc. want abortion to be legal. Like it or not that is the reality. The fact that every sate, including red states, where abortion access has been on the ballot has seen access restrictions firmly voted down. It's a losing issue especially with the young and women.

The GOP isn't doing itself any favors either. Look at the in-fighting over the House Speakership. My county is a microcosm of that where we had a GOP majority but the in-fighting was out of control. Well at the last election almost every Republican county legislator is out and there's a Democrat supermajority. How's that going to work out now. Already here them talking about raising taxes to cover pet projects.

The public at large sees this and sees a party that can't govern. I have a friend who worked briefly for the RNC. All he did was send out mass emails to people asking for money. He quit after a few months he was so frustrated by it. That's what the GOP is these days. A money raising machine that doesn't even have its key issue (abortion) to get donations for anymore. The Right would rather fight with each other over who is the most ideologically pure and this is where it gets us up and down the ballot.

For the record, I won reelection for another term as Town Justice. One of the few Republicans that seemed to keep their job this past election day.

When I try to have conservations with the County Committee about outreach and involving youth it all falls on death ears. My same friend who worked for the RNC started a Young Republicans Club in the county. Do you think the County Committee would be happy? Nope. Absolutely zero shits were given. And they still pat themselves on the back for their website that looks like it was last updated in 1998. What a joke. That's all they need to do as far as they're concerned.

It's time for the good old boys to go. Let someone under the age of 65 take some responsibility and maybe we'll start winning elections again. I'm a firm believer that the Gen Y (oh which I am one) and Gen Z would be receptive to conservative values and politics if they were met at least partway and given a chance to be involved. But from where I sit that ain't going to happen anytime soon.

I can't recall them all but I remember seeing a lot of red states passing anti abortion bills this year.

 

[Catskillkid]

I can't recall them all but I remember seeing a lot of red states passing anti abortion bills this year.

Perhaps, but that's the legislature. In the states where they were ballot initiatives Pro-Choice overwhelming one. This was true everywhere including red states.

 

[Saltwater60]

I tend bar for a living and deal with hundreds of people each week. As much as I try to steer conversations away from politics, it almost always becomes a topic of conversation. Not just Democrats but a great many Republicans, especially Republican women, are basing their votes almost exclusively on the abortion issue. As long as the fringe right wants to outlaw abortion completely the Republican Party will never gain the Presidency.

I agree it’s hurting us but I don’t think a true republican wouldn’t vote for Biden based solely on one thing but what do I know.

 

[Beerman]

If the right came out and appealed financially, "you young kids will be working forever because by the time you are older social security will be insolvent due to wreckless spending by democrat social programs, burden of illegals and never ending wars yada yada yada....) They might be appealing as the adult voice in the room looking out for the younger generation still trying to find their way in life and hoping they can have a future.

Won’t scare those fuckers. Most don’t work now, why would they ever believe they’ll have to work later?

 

[SomeSoldier]

Perhaps, but that's the legislature. In the states where they were ballot initiatives Pro-Choice overwhelming one. This was true everywhere including red states.

Oh you mean where the dems control the out come of those ballots?

 

[SonOfSun]

I agree it’s hurting us but I don’t think a true republican wouldn’t vote for Biden based solely on one thing but what do I know.

Elections aren't decided by Republicans or democrats. They are decided by the people in the middle, the independent.

 

[SonOfSun]

Won’t scare those fuckers. Most don’t work now, why would they ever believe they’ll have to work later?

I have to agree. Look at the median 401k balance. They aren't thinking about retirement.

 

[SonOfSun]

For as much as you all hate Vax mandates it should be easy to understand why women wouldn't want a forced pregnancy.

 

[Saltwater60]

Elections aren't decided by Republicans or democrats. They are decided by the people in the middle, the independent.

Agreed but the post I responded to said Republicans we’re voting for others because of abortion.

 

[libertysnake]

If the Republicans had tried to appeal to the younger generation by pandering to their wants, most true conservatives would have broken off and fractured the party, just like we’re seeing now. Lose your identity in politics, and all is lost.

Fine. Go for it. If they won't pander to my political position they won't get my vote and will continue to lose. I wish them the best of luck with the octogenarian base they're so fond of keeping then.