Benchmade emissary for the last 5.5 years. I love that knife and was my 15th anniversary gift from my wife. Still operates as good as day one. Too bad they did some stupid shit because I love, love, love that knife.
Absolutely.CIVIVI is the Holosun of knives. Chinese made from western design specs and with good build quality and materials.
My only issue is I am not familiar with Chinese steels sonI have no idea what the characteristics of the blade would be
Oh, and to answer your query.....CIVIVI is the Holosun of knives. Chinese made from western design specs and with good build quality and materials.
My only issue is I am not familiar with Chinese steels sonI have no idea what the characteristics of the blade would be
Well, I have to disagree with your assertion of higher end steels being an overindulgence. D2 is an excellent steel in it's intended application: jigs and especially dies where its high hardness gives it a good service life. For blades however, while good it is not particularly corrosion resistant (better than carbon steel but its not a true stainless steel) is a bit of a chore to sharpen and yet does not have the exceptional wear restiance of more recent steels. I haven't been keeping up on the latest in blade steels but last I checked M390 was on or near the top of the heap. While quite expensive it combines high corrosion resistance, exceptional edge retention and takes a very fine, keen edge readily. It combines all the desirable characteristics of a blade steel that you could want. My personal favorite steel however is the now unfortunately seldom seen S35VN which is a high performance, fairly affordable priced steel which combines the edge retention and corrosion resistance of S30V but with a finer grain structure that allows it to easily take a finer more even edge and hold onto it. Spyderco's proprietary SP27 steel is very similar to S35VN in both its metallurgy and working characteristics, the primary difference seems to be a slight reduction in vanadium and the addition of nitrogen which suggests a slight tradeoff of edge retention for additional corrosion resistance. Regardless I have been carrying my Para 3 lightweight thusly equipped with a SPY27 blade for years and have yet to need to sharpen it. Higher end steels like M390 you might NEVER need to sharpen with casual use.Absolutely.
Unlike many Chinese made knives, Civivi is a Chinese company....not an American company outsourcing their product to China....big difference.
You won't like my opinion on knife steel, so I'll just leave it at this.
If a folder has anything "better" than D2, it's overkill. And, I will put my sub $100 1095 steel fixed blades against ANY knife on the planet. All these boutique steels are for collectors who don't really use their knives.
Let's be honest, who uses a pocket knife for anything more than opening boxes and cutting string? Probably less than 1% of people use a pocket knife for real work.
Ok, ill leave it there.
This rant was not directed at you @Podmonkey , it's just in with your quote.
I had a blur, nice knife but I hate assisted blades, the all eventually fail as yours has. Fortunately you can simply remove the spring and it will function perfectly fine as an unassisted knife. I am irritated with Kershaw however for dropping their best model, the Skyline, which was a fantastic EDC unassisted flipper design. I lost mine years ago and I wish I could replace it.Odd that this thread just popped up, I just filled out a return authorization for my Kershaw Blur, that I have been carrying for 20+ years
the flippy open part is failing, I think the technical name is "the torsion bar or spring" or something. it feels like its full of dirt or grit or something. I tried to clean it out by hosing it with WD-40, but that failed.
anyway, Kershaw has a pretty good lifetime warranty, so we'll see how that works out
Well, I have to disagree with your assertion of higher end steels being an overindulgence. D2 is an excellent steel in it's intended application: jigs and especially dies where its high hardness gives it a good service life. For blades however, while good it is not particularly corrosion resistant (better than carbon steel but its not a true stainless steel) is a bit of a chore to sharpen and yet does not have the exceptional wear restiance of more recent steels. I haven't been keeping up on the latest in blade steels but last I checked M390 was on or near the top of the heap. While quite expensive it combines high corrosion resistance, exceptional edge retention and takes a very fine, keen edge readily. It combines all the desirable characteristics of a blade steel that you could want. My personal favorite steel however is the now unfortunately seldom seen S35VN which is a high performance, fairly affordable priced steel which combines the edge retention and corrosion resistance of S30V but with a finer grain structure that allows it to easily take a finer more even edge and hold onto it. Spyderco's proprietary SP27 steel is very similar to S35VN in both its metallurgy and working characteristics, the primary difference seems to be a slight reduction in vanadium and the addition of nitrogen which suggests a slight tradeoff of edge retention for additional corrosion resistance. Regardless I have been carrying my Para 3 lightweight thusly equipped with a SPY27 blade for years and have yet to need to sharpen it. Higher end steels like M390 you might NEVER need to sharpen with casual use.
I can also say that SPY27 seems to be truly rust proof. I get it wet frequently and use it for slicing apples, cheese, ect as well as EDC task in wet conditions and it has not gotten even one speck of surface rust on it. I definitely think if one's budget can afford it high end blade steels are worthwhile. I am very glad I got my nicer blades before this hyperinflation set in, I doubt I could afford the Para 3 or my custom Mini Griptillion with an M390 blade now days.
All that said I in no way think that a good knife requires high end expensive blade steels to be a quality tool. S30V, once considered a super steel, is now a standard steel used in more value oriented knives and it's an excellent steel. The Swedish 14C28N steel that Kershaw uses as a "budget" steel is absolutely outstanding for the price. A derivative of that companies steels used in razors it is highly corrosion edge and takes an extremely keen edge with the only drawback being average edge retention which is no real problem given how easy it is to sharpen. I'd like to see every budget knife using the dreadfully mediocre 420HC steel use 14C28N instead.
I would also like to see value knives make increased use of CPM154 which is just Crucible Steel's own version of 440c which is an excellent, well rounded and low cost blade steel.
I had a Spyderco Tenacious once and found it's Chinese 8Cr13MoV blade steel to be perfectly serviceable if lacking in corrosion resistance. I imagine 9RC28mov is an improvement on that steel. I'll go educate myself on it and gain some knowledge on quality Chinese steels as there are a few Chinese made knife brands that seek to compete on merit and not just price.
yep, I used my Blur everyday. From opening packages to stripping wire, to de-burring copper and PVC pipe. My wife use to get mad when we are at a restaurant and I break out my Blur to cut meat, LOLMy point was that 99% of edc users do not NEED super expensive boutique steels for the very limited use their knives see. Which of course, need has nothing do with it.
But, even more than gun guys, knife guys are EXTREMELY opinionated and will die on the "if you're not using such and such steel you're a moron" hill.
I carried this Kershaw for many years, in all weather and it has never rusted. It's made with very cheap steel, probably 420hc or something. It stays sharp and has pried, screwed, chopped......and is still going strong. The black on the blade is from jumping the solenoid on my old truck. It cost $18.
Again, I use my knives more than probably 99% of humans. I've never had a single issue with rust or corrosion at all.
I broke the tip on a flipper....a Benchmade....which I got a replacement for and sold it. It wasn't the knifes fault, it was mine. But I don’t want a $300 knife that breaks doing something a $50 knife would break doing.
This is just like is a $6000 Korth revolver better than a $900 S&W revolver?
Well, Korth is made of better parts, it has better wear resistance maybe, better rust resistance maybe.....but they both go bang for many years with few if any issues.
From the videos I've seen, the Korth doesn't shoot better, it's not more accurate for most people.
Almost 100% of the >$200 folder carriers I know, online and in real life, won't use their knife for more than opening a box, which, 420hc and D2 will do for $50.
With basic care, a $50 folder knife will do everything a $300 folder can do.
Unlike a firearm, a knife has few moving parts and the differences in blade steel are very overrated imo. This comes from many years of heavy knife use.
If you know a lot of knife guys, you know how they get about the latest fad steels.
By the way, I love everything about this $18 Chinese Kershaw...the size, shape, blade....and edge retention(with care), wear resistance and rust/corrosion resistance. It has been through hell. And that's not rust on the edge, it's from the last thing I used it for, scraping wax off a table.
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