Naw man, that old black lady should have just shut her mouth and sat in the back of the bus like a good citizen.
What's your Take on 1A audits
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"But would you like it if someone constantly critiqued you on how to do your job!? (The one that you chose) HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!?"
Thankfully I work in a prison, where we never get any complaints or harassment about performing our job duties.
Bozo
.45 acp
This. I've watched a few from the channel, and he tends to pick the less annoying videos. I'm all for recording police encounters, but many of the so-called "Auditors" are clearly instigating in hopes of a payout. Sure, a lot of cops are stupid, but the taxpayer is the one that foots the bill when the lawsuits are filed.
Sounds like the government needs to hire better employees or provide more training to ensure their officers don't violate citizen's rights. Maybe a whole bunch of both. The responsibility is on the govt. to not violate citizen rights even if a citizen isn't "nice". If they get it wrong then they deserve to get sued, period.
The police pension system should be the primary source of restitution (offending officer's pension first, remainder of pension system as a rollover for any excess liability) for civil rights violations by police with no funds coming out of anything else unless that is exhausted. The pensions should also be reclassed like social security where they only pay out as funded with no tax payer bump to cover any shortage. I bet you'd see rights violations slow down pretty fucking quick if it meant their pensions would get gutted. Shit they'd even start ratting out corrupt cops because if they didn't that person could screw their pension.
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The ones making the videos.
Not nesessarily this video, in general. Bunch of douche bags and cowards.
So, I have many issues with these fools and idiots.
None of my issues comes from filming the Police, per say.
Film all you want, I am on camera nearly the entire time that I am on the clock, does not bother me at all.
None of these reasons are in any kind of order.
The way these frauditors speak to people, quit being a coward and say the same thing to these other people, without the camera.
Stop the cowardly attacks on those people being paid to do a job; not just the Police but all other public employees. Stop harassing them. This is most of what these people do.
Stop the lies and made up, internet taught, bullshit. Hint, you can absolutely be kicked out and trespassed from public buildings and public properties.
The average auditor misinterprets some of the laws.For example, Terry v. Ohio requires that an officer possess "specific and articulable facts" providing "reasonable suspicion" of criminal activity before detaining someone. Many auditors have been taught this means an officer must verbally "articulate" the basis for the stop or detention at the outset. That is not the law, although many agencies do require an officer making a traffic stop to start the contact by introducing himself and explaining the reason for the stop.
Any cop can ask any question, they frauditors then start to make a big deal out of nothing, creating issues and problems that are not there. Pushing buttons of public employees. They do this in a very cowardly way. I do not expect much more from them. Pitiful little people.
They all use the same types of lines and phrases, they sound ridiculous and downright stupid.
They waste a lot of time of these public employees for their little games so they can go home and feel good about themselves.
I have no issue being filmed, none at all. I do all I can to ensure they (the filmers, look as foolish as possible).
Their lack of courage, their lack of proper knowledge of the law and their downright nastiness is what bothers me.
I have stated many times here, do not trust the Police when in a bad situation and film as much as you can. The Police are not always on your side. But, my gods, be a man about it, not a little pussy.
I could share many stories, but on this open forum, I cannot.
None of my issues comes from filming the Police, per say.
Film all you want, I am on camera nearly the entire time that I am on the clock, does not bother me at all.
None of these reasons are in any kind of order.
The way these frauditors speak to people, quit being a coward and say the same thing to these other people, without the camera.
Stop the cowardly attacks on those people being paid to do a job; not just the Police but all other public employees. Stop harassing them. This is most of what these people do.
Stop the lies and made up, internet taught, bullshit. Hint, you can absolutely be kicked out and trespassed from public buildings and public properties.
The average auditor misinterprets some of the laws.For example, Terry v. Ohio requires that an officer possess "specific and articulable facts" providing "reasonable suspicion" of criminal activity before detaining someone. Many auditors have been taught this means an officer must verbally "articulate" the basis for the stop or detention at the outset. That is not the law, although many agencies do require an officer making a traffic stop to start the contact by introducing himself and explaining the reason for the stop.
Any cop can ask any question, they frauditors then start to make a big deal out of nothing, creating issues and problems that are not there. Pushing buttons of public employees. They do this in a very cowardly way. I do not expect much more from them. Pitiful little people.
They all use the same types of lines and phrases, they sound ridiculous and downright stupid.
They waste a lot of time of these public employees for their little games so they can go home and feel good about themselves.
I have no issue being filmed, none at all. I do all I can to ensure they (the filmers, look as foolish as possible).
Their lack of courage, their lack of proper knowledge of the law and their downright nastiness is what bothers me.
I have stated many times here, do not trust the Police when in a bad situation and film as much as you can. The Police are not always on your side. But, my gods, be a man about it, not a little pussy.
I could share many stories, but on this open forum, I cannot.
Here is an example of a serious tool. And, a coward.
Oh, another great line...
Auditor to employee....
Name and Id (Badge) number. Huge fail, not all departments require the officer to give this information. No law in most places.
Auditor to employee....
Name and Id (Badge) number. Huge fail, not all departments require the officer to give this information. No law in most places.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
what the hell was in is hand lol .. egg beater lol ..
Skipped through it. While they were probably irritating, I didn't see anything illegal so I'm not sure what the problem is. There are no laws that guarantee you an experience that isn't irritating while in public. I don't like a lot of things people do in public, but if it's not a crime then that's just too damn bad for me. Any of those people were free to leave if they didn't like his recording.
Never claimed legal or illegal actions.
Posted this video to show how cowardly and their lack of honor.
Two garbage little dudes that are meaningless in life. The first time they have an interaction with a real guy, they would cry and wet their pants.
Most of the Frauditors are like this, almost to a T. Just garbage people.
If you cannot understand where I am coming from, I cannot help you.
Just looking for a bit of stand up action from people. I hate little people that have no honor, no pride and are lacking in courage.
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
spat
.700 Nitro Express
It's about 50/50 with these videos.
The guy who made the video in the original post seems to be level headed. It’s pretty funny to see how nervous the govt workers get when they are being filmed. What do they have to hide? Many of NY’s problems are rooted in govt waste and corruption. I welcome anything that shines a light on it. There are HUNDREDS of little fiefdoms around the state like the one he is showing. People who have zero accountability or respect for tax payer dollars and think they rule the land. For what we pay in taxes, I think we deserve to see what’s going on.
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Toecutter
.308 Win
Haha that guys an angel . I'm pretty patient and I would have fires off on this guy. Start at 2 min.
The...
"You'll lose your qualified immunity" makes me laugh all of the time.
The linked video is exactly what I am talking about in regards to no pride, honor or real wits of courage.
Punks and pussies!
drowhawk
.44 mag
Although I don't always think the auditors are right, I certainly think it helps to balance things out. A lot of the auditors I've seen that were jerks were dealing with government agents or police officers that were also jerks. I think jerks deserve each-other in this world and I would go as far to say they seek each-other out.
I watch a lot of Audit the Audit but he doesn't really have any skin in the game for or against most LEO's. He just grades them and the auditor based on their professionalism and knowledge of the law.
I watch a lot of Audit the Audit but he doesn't really have any skin in the game for or against most LEO's. He just grades them and the auditor based on their professionalism and knowledge of the law.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
This should have been handled.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Everyday our government installs more cameras to watch us , they are everywhere watching everything. We need citizens watching them as well. But there is a right and wrong way to do it. Respect should be shown on both sides of the lens.
I'd go even further to say every government camera in a public setting should be on a 24 7 live stream for the public to view.
I'd go even further to say every government camera in a public setting should be on a 24 7 live stream for the public to view.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
with clear audio too ..
how many security cameras are in the building of the video i posted .. lots i bet ..
I can live with this. The funny thing about most of these fauditors, they almost never show the positive interactions. I know, whatever, right?
The vast majority of these camera jockey's have no control of their attitudes or their emotions. Their holier than now sense of right. So often they are just plain wrong. Some are decent at what they do, a very small "some".
I am only commenting on the question posed in the OP in regards to these camera fools.
My issue has never been the cameras. It is who wields the camera that I have issue with.
The facility cameras and the government cameras, gods only know what they do with all of that footage. Wow.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Nope. He is wrong. Public buildings can exclude people. Once a person in charge of that building says you are trespassing, you have to leave.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
So you would agree then that any excess in the pension fund should be given to the officers then?
Despite what some pension reform people and politicians who want to go after pension benefits, NYS and NYC police ( separate pension funds ) are at an excess of current payouts. The math they use for saying they are only 94% funded includes future liabilities ie people who haven’t retired yet. And with the new pension tiers, the system will have an excess especially since guys are quitting before they are eligible to receive a pension.
Oh, just to add, we are taxed on those contributions to the pension as we are working as if it was current income. So if a police officer quits before he or she paid taxes on something they won’t receive. Unlike that 401k match you might receive, the pension is only transferable to another NYS government job.
Civil rights lawsuits. Cops get sued for that all the time. Most of them bogus. If a cop had to pay out of pocket each time because they followed the department rules, nothing would get done. They are following the advice and orders of superiors who vetted it through lawyers, yet the cop would be liable for a decision that 4 of the nine Supreme Court justices get wrong. Think about it. And almost every single person who ever gets told something by a cop they don’t like claims their rights care being violated. The guy in the video is wrong. They stopped him to investigate a possible crime- criminal trespass.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Doctors manage, cops should too.
If you have any question about the law, you don't enforce it. It's that simple.
If the cop followed policy, then the department should compensate him for any judgement. If he didn't, then he's on his own.
As for nothing would get done, well, for 90% of the laws on the books, that would be an improvement.
Gotta love this forum. Gotta love how so many threads, ready for a great discussion, get skewed by a couple of people all of the time.
Question was simple, What's your Take on 1A audits?
Seems simple enough to discuss this question, but nope, not here. Gotta get off topic and speak of all kinds of things that have very little to do with the question.
May be on e of the reasons for low post counts these days.
Question was simple, What's your Take on 1A audits?
Seems simple enough to discuss this question, but nope, not here. Gotta get off topic and speak of all kinds of things that have very little to do with the question.
May be on e of the reasons for low post counts these days.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
It's called Clicks and Views!
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Doctors in private practice manage but can choose their patients and which procedures they do.
Doctors who work for public hospitals are covered by that public hospital.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
I've been watching these for awhile now, but not the frauditor post!) Watch these as to not give Clicks and Views to the org. such as Dr. Dave Beer Professor & Debunker of Frauditors! Schrodinger's Cat and Ragical the Unhallowed Knight. Also watch the SOVCIT ( Sovereign Citizen ) videos are a hoot!!