Where are we not allowed to concealed carry upstate?

[Slacker43]

Yes

Until God forbid you actually have to use it.

Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.

Well......

What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.

Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.

This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions

You're going to be jammed up just as before. You were never leaving that store and heading home in NY. All you have is another charge for carrying. Small potatoes at that point.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

You're going to be jammed up just as before. You were never leaving that store and heading home in NY. All you have is another charge for carrying. Small potatoes at that point.

Not if you get out before police show up and setup a perimeter

 

[Slacker43]

Not if you get out before police show up and setup a perimeter

That's a way different scenario that will work out worse in the long run. Too many cameras these days.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

That's a way different scenario that will work out worse in the long run. Too many cameras these days.

Why?

You're just a regular shopper panicking like everyone else. Concealed is concealed. Who's going to know you have a gun if it stays concealed and you leave before authorities lock the place down?

 

[S&W Fan]

Yes

Until God forbid you actually have to use it.

Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.

Well......

What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.

Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.

This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions

Thankfully that scenario is still a relative rarity. But, if you indeed have that type of a moral compass, as a lot of us do, then your reaction to that situation is an obvious one.

 

[Blackjack]

For law abiding citizens 99%of the state is now off limits.

Any criminal or nut job that wants to commit a mass shooting, NY gun laws have given them an unprecedented green light. They can bring their guns and body armor from any other state, walk into any public place and likely beat any kill score knowing no citizen will be armed. NY is advertising it nationwide.

I am very worried about places of worship. Especially with the overturning of roe. That’s a fish in a barrel situation waiting to happen for these nuts.

 

[Slacker43]

Why?

You're just a regular shopper panicking like everyone else. Concealed is concealed. Who's going to know you have a gun if it stays concealed and you leave before authorities lock the place down?

If you didn't use it then yes, walk away. If you did use it sit tight and it will play out.

 

[cgrutt]

Yes

Until God forbid you actually have to use it.

Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.

Well......

What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.

Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.

This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions

Imagine a DA prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen who saved himself, possibly his family and countless bystanders by stopping an active shooter because he ignored a blatantly unconstitutional law and exercised his God given right to defend himself. FUKH.

 

[MothMan]

Yes

Until God forbid you actually have to use it.

Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.

Well......

What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.

Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.

This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions

Sucks to be them.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Under the "new law".. I have not read it complete, just what I have read on forums... From what I gather, you can carry from your home or property where it is still legal,to the car, in the car, and maybe walking down the street in some places, and pretty much everything else is off limits, NO private businesses at all, no parks, no recreation areas such as kids ball games, fishing areas, camp grounds, state land except to hunt?.. Honestly I am not real sure, and any further info would be welcome.. I plan on spending a lot more of my time shopping in Pa. where I can still carry[for now].. anyway, maybe I am not understanding 100%, and a few folks here have a better handle on this disgusting violation of the Second Amendment.......bob

most anywhere...inside Your home that is.....not allowed in all written verbooten places plus anywhere a no gun zone sign is posted. The fuher (hochul) has spoken.

And...anyone hear from the Court about a decision on this new crap law that Was "supposed" to be announced before Sept 1 2022. BEFORE..not on or after

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Imagine a DA prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen who saved himself, possibly his family and countless bystanders by stopping an active shooter because he ignored a blatantly unconstitutional law and exercised his God given right to defend himself. FUKH.

this is the "perfect" scenario to make an example of some law abiding citizen. The "LAW" is the "LAW" you all know.

 

[redtail]

Absolutely nowhere the founders intended the 2A for.
Kathy the tyrant obviously has way more authority and power than any silly court or dusty old racist constitution.
To be sure, her and her detail will be armed to the teeth wherever they go.

 

[whatupbo]

So if I’m riding my bike on the sidewalk , I’m good, until I accidentally cross into a parking lot, then its a felony…. Hmm, I wonder how many I committed today? I mean who knows pretty much anything you do in New York is a felony now , pretty soon exhaling outside will be considered a felony.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

So if I’m riding my bike on the sidewalk , I’m good, until I accidentally cross into a parking lot, then its a felony…. Hmm, I wonder how many I committed today? I mean who knows pretty much anything you do in New York is a felony now , pretty soon exhaling outside will be considered a felony.

 

[subsonic]

I am very worried about places of worship.

I'd like to see an armed outdoor Christian conventicle and psalm-sing at a state forest or farm to protest this. Sadly this state is so cucked that probably only a few militia weirdos (love you guys but you're not always helping), fed glowies and fed glowies impersonating militia weirdos would show up.

 

[Saltwater60]

Why?

You're just a regular shopper panicking like everyone else. Concealed is concealed. Who's going to know you have a gun if it stays concealed and you leave before authorities lock the place down?

Cameras are a regular occurrence in stores those days. It’s not hard to find out who you are since every pistol permit holder has their picture on file.

 

[Saltwater60]

So if I’m riding my bike on the sidewalk , I’m good, until I accidentally cross into a parking lot, then its a felony…. Hmm, I wonder how many I committed today? I mean who knows pretty much anything you do in New York is a felony now , pretty soon exhaling outside will be considered a felony.

I just had this conversation with my dad today and I said I’m done helping people. He said don’t give up you have to still help people. I said no I don’t because if I’m carrying my gun on a walk or snow blowing my driveway and I take one step on their property to help them and in the process my gun shows they can have me arrested. I said you can thank Kathy Hochul for me being an asshole now.

 

[HIghlander]

So no one could carry while visiting the Gun range without them posting a sign they allow firearms on the grounds and in the building.
Just asking for a friend.

 

[Nevar]

to OP with respect
Your just as FUCKED as we here on Long Island [ not in ny shitty]
next time you see a 300 plus LB leo. ask your self WHY

 

[Acer-m14]

so you carry into a store and get caught .. felony ..

DA will not charge .. plea deal on the table .. misdemeanor charge and you will surrender your PP and all GUNS for 5 or 10 yrs..
mission accomplished ..

 

[Blackjack]

so you carry into a store and get caught .. felony ..

DA will not charge .. plea deal on the table .. misdemeanor charge and you will surrender your PP and all GUNS for 5 or 10 yrs..
mission accomplished ..

Correct but you can buy pot now by a NYS licensed dispensary. All those places you can’t ccw you can get high as hell!
CLOWN WORLD ran by DEMONS

 

[99cummins]

so you carry into a store and get caught .. felony ..

DA will not charge .. plea deal on the table .. misdemeanor charge and you will surrender your PP and all GUNS for 5 or 10 yrs..
mission accomplished ..

This is their play. I highly doubt anyone will become a felon based on only breaking these newest laws…but you will loose your guns forever in return for them not destroying your life with their unlimited resources.

 

[maverick52]

The "places of worship" restriction really bugs me. There seems to be no way that a place of worship can opt out of this restriction, even by posting. And the chances of even getting something posted at most places of worship are slim to begin with!

It’s actually a violation of the first amendment. Separation of church and state. A house of worship is free from government interference.

 

[maverick52]

Yes

Until God forbid you actually have to use it.

Here's a mental mind F. Imagine carrying in a store that doesn't have a guns welcome sign. No problem you can conceal no one will know.

Well......

What if while you are in that store minding your own business an active shooter comes in. Imagine being in the moral dilemma of trying to decide whether saving innocent lives like the woman and 2 kids at the end of the aisle is worth you opening yourself up up to risk of prosecution by engaging the shooter.

Imagine the morality of trying to make a split second decision to either think of what's best for yourself and escape without drawing your pistol or knowing that you are in a position to save lives lives but willingly sacrifice them to the shooter to keep yourself out of jail.

This law is going to put us legal gun owners who have a moral compass in some very compromising positions

That’s why it’s better not to carry till this gets sorted out in court. I personally have no desire to carry any more.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Cameras are a regular occurrence in stores those days. It’s not hard to find out who you are since every pistol permit holder has their picture on file.

My point was.... No one would know that you have a pistol because you would never draw it and it would stay concealed and you would look exactly like every other panicked shopper running out the exit.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

My point was.... No one would know that you have a pistol because you would never draw it and it would stay concealed and you would look exactly like every other panicked shopper running out the exit.

Unless you have an accident, medical issue etc

 

[kaliber]

Kyle Rittenhouse and the Mccloscy’s (Minnesota husband and wife) were made examples of by overzealous prosecutors, don’t think that KH isn’t hoping to send a payback message at the cost of ruining a few lives

 

[ManualF150]

That’s why it’s better not to carry till this gets sorted out in court. I personally have no desire to carry any more.

This is exactly what "they" are hoping for.

If "they" make it too difficult or confusing, law abiding citizens won't have the desire to carry any more.

 

[FRB]

Dont poke the bear

The bear needs poking, it is violating our space!

 

[FRB]

The "places of worship" restriction really bugs me. There seems to be no way that a place of worship can opt out of this restriction, even by posting. And the chances of even getting something posted at most places of worship are slim to begin with!

Our safety has no choice but to not follow this law!