CIA-Backed Medical Experiments on Danish Orphans

[holdover]

This is a list of KGB officers and agents who have defected.

Name	Defection date	Country of defection	Comment
Georgiy Sergeyevich Agabekov[1]	1930	France
Walter Germanovich Krivitskiy[1]	1937, October	France
Genrikh Samoilovich Lyushkov	1938	Japan
Aleksandr Mikhailovich Orlov[1]	1938	Canada	Authenticity of defection disputed[2]
Lev Borisovich Helfand[1]	1940	Italy
Igor Grigoryevich Orlov	1943	Germany	Re-recruited as Soviet agent in 1949
Viktor Andreyevich Kravchenko[1][2]	1944	United States	Not an intelligence officer
Anatoliy Mikhailovich Granovskiy	1946	Sweden
Petr Sergeyevich Deryabin[1][2]	1953	Austria
Nikolay Yevgenyevich Khokhlov	1954	West Germany
Yuriy Aleksandrovich Rastvorov[1]	1954	Japan
Vladimir Mikhaylovich Petrov[1][2]	1954, April 3	Australia
Yevdokiya Alekseyevna Petrova	1954, April 19	Australia
Reino Häyhänen	1957	France
Anatoliy Mikhailovich Golitsyn[2]	1961, December 15	Finland

 

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Bohdan Mykolayovych Stashynsky	1961	West Berlin
Yuri Vasilevich Krotkov	1963	United Kingdom	KGB agent, not officer
Yuriy Ivanovich Nosenko[3]	1964, January	Switzerland	Authenticity of defection disputed[2]
Yuriy Aleksandrovich Bezmenov[4]	1970	Canada	Intelligence agent, not officer
Sergey Nikolayevich Kourdakov	1971, September 4	Canada	Intelligence agent, not officer
Oleg Adolfovich Lyalin[2]	1971	United Kingdom
Imants Lešinskis[5]	1978[6]	United States
Aleksei Alekseyevich Myagkov[2]	1974	West Berlin
Stanislav Aleksandrovich Levchenko[2]	1979, October	Japan
Oleg Agraniants[7]	1986	Tunisia
Ilya Grigoryevich Dzhirkvelov[2]	1980	Switzerland
Viktor Ivanovich Sheymov[8]	1980	Unknown
Vladimir Anatolyevich Kuzichkin	1982	Iran
Oleg Antonovich Gordievsky	1985, July 19	United Kingdom
Vitaly Sergeyevich Yurchenko	1985	Italy	Authenticity of defection disputed; later returned to USSR.[2]
Igor Nikolayevich Cherpinskiy[9]	1990	Belgium
Sergey Sergeyevich Illarionov[10]	1992	Italy
Vasiliy Nikitich Mitrokhin	1992	Latvia
Viktor Alekseyevich Oshchenko[11]	1992, July	United Kingdom
Aleksandr Nikolayevich Poteyev	2010, June 26	United States	KGB colonel, as well as officer in the SVR

 

[Mosinitis]

After WWII millions of Germans were driven off the territory which was given to Poland and Czechoslovakia. Many were killed by Poles while Polish government was in charge. Propaganda blames the Russians. BULLSHIT!!!!! and this has nothing to do with the subject at hand, it wasn't their choice.
There were thousands of Greek, Spaniards that fled to Soviet Union. Political refugees, not the case with Germans.

 

[holdover]

Was Poland not part of the Soviet Union?

 

[Mosinitis]

Was Poland not part of the Soviet Union?

What?????????????

 

[holdover]

Cant open link. redo

I think I meant say soviet bloc, Not soviet union.

 

[Mosinitis]

Emigration from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

........ and this is not even a complete list

 

[holdover]

Dude, Are you fucking for real? The Soviet Union or Warsaw pact countries are not even on it. Whats your point here?

 

[Mosinitis]

Dude, Are you fucking for real? The Soviet Union or Warsaw pact countries are not even on it. Whats your point here?

There is always a percentage of people who for whatever reason will decide to live in another country. It doesn't mean anything, just like over 9 million Americans who don't want to live here (the actual number is even higher, they only looked at some countries).
Our self-glorification propaganda makes a big deal of flow of immigrants. This flow is because our immigration policies are more open than in other countries, not because people who come here have a hard on for our system or our Constitution. Most of them don't know shit about this country.
What's even worse our self-glorification is used to argue our supremacy over other countries and our right to dictate to them.
The end result are bodybags and flag-draped coffins coming home.

 

[spat]

Funny how people can't sop bitching about what is going on in this country, but so fucking sure American self-glorification propaganda is beyond reproach.

The fact remains that capitalists build walls to keep people out, and communists build walls to keep people in.


Without either set of walls communist countries would have a big problem with a lack of productive citizens, capitalist countries would have a problem finding enough work for them all.

 

[spat]

Emigration from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

........ and this is not even a complete list

Ahh, yes, all the people fleeing to Mexico and Canada.

Surely they risked their lives to escape oppression.

Or maybe they just had family or a job offer there.

How many of them had to make a hot air balloon out of shower curtains or sail an old studebaker across the open ocean to escape ?

 

[96coal449]

American elites supported Hitler's rise to power. Patton wanted to recycle Nazi war machine. After WWII was over many war criminals imigrated to North and South America.

You poked me so, here it goes.

I did say, no country was innocent. You want to tell us what the Red army did upon entering Germany? About the age of German females making no difference? About how those poor women, children, and elderly got chain banged? Some to their deaths? Yup, I said "some worse than others." You could have left it at that, friend.

Yes, I know the American "elites", and others around the world, contributed greatly to the Nazi party. IBM is the corporation that came up with the numbering system for the Jewish forearms. Long before Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, 1941, the Nazi party was rooted in America. Yes, Patton gave some of the weapons back to the German army. That was to help us fight back the Russians from swallowing Germany. Upon the end of the European theater, Patton stated, "We fought the wrong enemy." He was referring to the central banks, and the globalists. He was assassinated, still in Europe, in Dec of 45. Hitler originally only desired to reunite former lands to the "motherland'', and restore German economy. It was a broke nation, even before the great depression hit. It was also demilitarized after WWI. The "Nazi party" was created and funded by the banks, which enriched the 3rd Reich. Right about this time, Hitler was introduced to crystal meth, and all hell broke loose.

Yes, many war criminals immigrated to the Americas. They couldn't hide in Europe, the Mid East, and obviously they would not blend themselves into Asia. I would bet, some could easily find refuge in Russia. Some scientists did, as well as America. Some of those scientists committed war crimes too.

So the moral of this story is, we all have a common enemy. Every nations peoples have tyranny instituted in their governments.
And here, homeland America, the "free" and the brave, and it's sheep, are all to busy arguing to come to the conclusion of what needs to be done, in this corporation of a "country." See the act of 1871 for explanation and the doings of FDR.

Where do we start? Well with COMPLETE non compliance of All unconstitutional acts.
Show our unity. Fuck the color of law. Men used to protest with pitchforks, shovels, and other farming implements.

We can do much better.

 

[Mosinitis]

You poked me so, here it goes.

I did say, no country was innocent. You want to tell us what the Red army did upon entering Germany? About the age of German females making no difference? About how those poor women, children, and elderly got chain banged? Some to their deaths? Yup, I said "some worse than others." You could have left it at that, friend.

Yes, I know the American "elites", and others around the world, contributed greatly to the Nazi party. IBM is the corporation that came up with the numbering system for the Jewish forearms. Long before Pearl Harbor, Dec. 7, 1941, the Nazi party was rooted in America. Yes, Patton gave some of the weapons back to the German army. That was to help us fight back the Russians from swallowing Germany. Upon the end of the European theater, Patton stated, "We fought the wrong enemy." He was referring to the central banks, and the globalists. He was assassinated, still in Europe, in Dec of 45. Hitler originally only desired to reunite former lands to the "motherland'', and restore German economy. It was a broke nation, even before the great depression hit. It was also demilitarized after WWI. The "Nazi party" was created and funded by the banks, which enriched the 3rd Reich. Right about this time, Hitler was introduced to crystal meth, and all hell broke loose.

Yes, many war criminals immigrated to the Americas. They couldn't hide in Europe, the Mid East, and obviously they would not blend themselves into Asia. I would bet, some could easily find refuge in Russia. Some scientists did, as well as America. Some of those scientists committed war crimes too.

So the moral of this story is, we all have a common enemy. Every nations peoples have tyranny instituted in their governments.
And here, homeland America, the "free" and the brave, and it's sheep, are all to busy arguing to come to the conclusion of what needs to be done, in this corporation of a "country." See the act of 1871 for explanation and the doings of FDR.

Where do we start? Well with COMPLETE non compliance of All unconstitutional acts.
Show our unity. Fuck the color of law. Men used to protest with pitchforks, shovels, and other farming implements.

We can do much better.

Creative writing history the American style.

 

[tirwin1]

Creative writing history the American style.

Isn't there a boat or a flight back to mother russia, comrade? Why in the **** do you even reside in this country anymore?

 

[Mosinitis]

Isn't there a boat or a flight back to mother russia, comrade? Why in the **** do you even reside in this country anymore?

I can't even get my shit together to move out of NY, much less to a foreign country. I am just sick and tired of how lies, selective factoids and exaggerations are used to manipulate public opinion. In this country it's an art. Just look at our domestic politics, where people are divided into two camps and pitted against each other. One camp is fighting imaginary communists and the other camp is fighting imaginary fascists. In reality it is the elite hierarchy playing poorly educated and heavily indoctrinated masses.

 

[96coal449]

I can't even get my shit together to move out of NY, much less to a foreign country. I am just sick and tired of how lies, selective factoids and exaggerations are used to manipulate public opinion. In this country it's an art. Just look at our domestic politics, where people are divided into two camps and pitted against each other. One camp is fighting imaginary communists and the other camp is fighting imaginary fascists. In reality it is the elite hierarchy playing poorly educated and heavily indoctrinated masses.

Yup, but I'm not indoctrinated. My father went to a private school. He told me not to believe what they taught in public school.
I then quit school and avoided the indoctrination. Seems I may have more of my shit together than thou.

Creative writing history the American style.

So what's your point? So for my creative writing skills, are you saying the Red army did not rape German women?

Or, are you telling me Patton is sitting on a beach of an uncharted island? LOL

 

[Mosinitis]

Yup, but I'm not indoctrinated. My father went to a private school. He told me not to believe what they taught in public school.
I then quit school and avoided the indoctrination. Seems I may have more of my shit together than thou.


So what's your point? So for my creative writing skills, are you saying the Red army did not rape German women?

Or, are you telling me Patton is sitting on a beach of an uncharted island? LOL

Women were also raped in American, German and French occupied zones and by our troops in Japan. Our propaganda talked about it as if it was only Red Army and deliberate policy to punish German people. In fact it was against army regulations, standing orders and Russians could face more severe punishment than Americans. Russians also had a lot more men in Germany.

Germany Shines Light on Rape by Troops Who Beat Nazis

Professor Miriam Gebhardt, at Germany's University of Konstanz, alleges American and allied troops committed far more rapes than previously thought.

www.nbcnews.com

Patton was an asshole who hated everyone from shell shocked American GI's and Jews to Russian allies. There are a lot of conspiracy theories around him and his death. Personally I hope he suffered before he died.

General George S. Patton was Anti-Semitic & Believed in Superiority of the ‘Nordic Race’ - The Constantine Report

" ... Patton at the end of World War II disparaged the Jewish inmates of Hitler's death camps who had been re-interned in Displaced Person (DP) camps maint

constantinereport.com

 

[tirwin1]

Women were also raped in American, German and French occupied zones and by our troops in Japan. Our propaganda talked about it as if it was only Red Army and deliberate policy to punish German people. In fact it was against army regulations, standing orders and Russians could face more severe punishment than Americans. Russians also had a lot more men in Germany.

Germany Shines Light on Rape by Troops Who Beat Nazis

Professor Miriam Gebhardt, at Germany's University of Konstanz, alleges American and allied troops committed far more rapes than previously thought.

www.nbcnews.com

Patton was an asshole who hate everyone from shell shocked American GI's and Jews to Russian allies. There are a lot of conspiracy theories around him and his death. Personally I hope he suffered before he died.

And I hope you suffer as well.

 

[Mosinitis]

Barbaric mass murder of civilians in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a deliberate and planned action, unlike rapes by military personnel.

 

[tirwin1]

Barbaric mass murder of civilians in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a deliberate and planned action, unlike rapes by military personnel.

Complete and total horseshit. The soviets knew and encouraged the abuse of German civilians.

 

[Mosinitis]

Complete and total horseshit. The soviets knew and encouraged the abuse of German civilians.

Bullshit!

Order was issued on 19 January 1945, which required the prevention of mistreatment of civilians. An order of the military council of the 1st Belorussian Front, signed by Marshal Rokossovsky, ordered the shooting of looters and rapists at the scene of the crime. An order issued by Stavka on 20 April 1945 said that there was a need to maintain good relations with German civilians in order to decrease resistance and bring a quicker end to hostilities.

 

[tirwin1]

Bullshit!

Order was issued on 19 January 1945, which required the prevention of mistreatment of civilians. An order of the military council of the 1st Belorussian Front, signed by Marshal Rokossovsky, ordered the shooting of looters and rapists at the scene of the crime. An order issued by Stavka on 20 April 1945 said that there was a need to maintain good relations with German civilians in order to decrease resistance and bring a quicker end to hostilities.

So you are saying the russian troops deliberately disobeyed orders. Or perhaps, just maybe, the soviets made proclamations for PR value that they knew would never be followed. Really dude, just get on a boat back to your ideal paradise already.

 

[Mosinitis]

So you are saying the russian troops deliberately disobeyed orders. Or perhaps, just maybe, the soviets made proclamations for PR value that they knew would never be followed. Really dude, just get on a boat back to your ideal paradise already.

Here is the Russian side of the story.

Translation: The Red Army “Rape of Germany” was Invented by Goebbels

In an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, Russian history professor Elena Sinyavskaya in a discussion with Alexey Ovchinnikov disputes the factual provenance of the Red Army rape of Germany. The M…

akarlin.com

 

[96coal449]

Here is the Russian side of the story.

Translation: The Red Army “Rape of Germany” was Invented by Goebbels

In an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, Russian history professor Elena Sinyavskaya in a discussion with Alexey Ovchinnikov disputes the factual provenance of the Red Army rape of Germany. The M…

akarlin.com

In my best Steve Urkl voice, "Did I do that?"

 

[96coal449]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a deliberate and planned action

And that's my point. It wasn't an American doing. The same enemy exists today. The cabal. They have been here decades before you ever were in the states yet you chose to live here and cry for your mother country. At least it seems it to me.

Enough already, we got bigger fish to fry and time is short.

 

[Mosinitis]

In my best Steve Urkl voice, "Did I do that?"

No, no, no. Stalin killed 60 million Russians in purges, then filled WWII battlefields with Russian corpses due to incompetence and sent the rest to rape all German women they could get their hands on, while Americans liberated Europe.

If you don't believe this, ask Vlasovites who represented Russian-Amirican diaspora in this country for decades.
I live here long enough to notice how these numbers kept growing and met a number of Vlasovites (former members of Russian Liberation Army) and others false witnesses, who committed treason and atrocities back home and spent the rest of their life slandering their own country to justify their actions.

 

[Mosinitis]

And that's my point. It wasn't an American doing. The same enemy exists today. The cabal. They have been here decades before you ever were in the states yet you chose to live here and cry for your mother country. At least it seems it to me.

Enough already, we got bigger fish to fry and time is short.

I don't give a fuck anymore which side of the elites runs this country. That will never change. Not worth it.