McCarthy will be the offical Speaker of the House by the nights end

[GOPerfect]

Everything is falling into place. He will be elected tonight, or first thing in the morning as speaker of the house.

The way that things unfolded, this will be a great win for the American people, at least those in the Make America Great group.

This is and will be a total win for those that held out. This was their plan and the holdouts, the "MAGA" won.

Huge win for all of us.

 

[Jmac00]

whether its a win or not, is to be seen. If these children stop fucking around, and start handing out subpoenas and arrest warrants, and they get around impeaching biden, THEN it maybe a win.

Honestly, Im not holding my breath

 

[GOPerfect]

whether its a win or not, is to be seen. If these children stop fucking around, and start handing out subpoenas and arrest warrants, and they get around impeaching biden, THEN it maybe a win.

Honestly, Im not holding my breath

Oh, the holdouts, the ones that refused to back him...

The paln of attack is solid. They knew what they were doing with this fight; huge win for sure. And not for McCarthy

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Forgive my ignorance but how is this a win?

 

[GOPerfect]

Forgive my ignorance but how is this a win?

Thank you..... I was hoping that someone would ask....

The motion to vacate is key. It’s a privilege motion (supersedes all other business except adjournment) that takes only one movement. If invoked, McCarthy would need a majority of 218 to STAY as Speaker.

 

[GOPerfect]

This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.

The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.

 

[GOPerfect]

Process requires the vote for speaker to happen first, member swearing-in, then rules package; however, if McCarthy tries to back out of any concession, he won’t have the votes for any rules package and we’re back to a stall. Congress can’t move without a rules package affirmed.

With this rules package, the 20 have achieved an historic accountability oversight and check on leadership and the Speaker’s power. I would consider this a TOTAL WIN for Gaetz & Co, the MAGA movement, and therefore America.

In other words, if McCarthy does not hold up to what he has agreed upon with the 20 holdouts, they can call for a motion for a new vote for speaker and this all begins again.

 

[GOPerfect]

Apparently, McCarthy has also agreed to release ALL footage and testimony of the J6 hearings.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

This effectively neuters McCarthy. The original 20 have a pact that if McCarthy does anything outside his promises, they will vote to not retain and he’s gone.

The rest of the rules package would mark the first time HRC would have independent authority from leadership in over 60 years—good for accountability and the public.

I see, thank you. My concern would be his ability to get dems to vote for him in that situation, to retain him as speaker. Unless I have that wrong and it's only the majority party that votes.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Forgive my ignorance but how is this a win?

Just arrived. You beat me to it.

 

[GOPerfect]

I see, thank you. My concern would be his ability to get dems to vote for him in that situation, to retain him as speaker. Unless I have that wrong and it's only the majority party that votes.

Either party can vote.

 

[GOPerfect]

Just arrived. You beat me to it.

Read and learn a bit Doc. I will continue to educate the ignorant masses.... As long as you all will allow me to.

 

[GOPerfect]

The left is freaking out, which means this will likely be a good thing for us.

Anything that gives the Freedom Caucus more power is a positive thing

 

[GOPerfect]

This is one of the proposed rules that is part of the package, this package is more than likely going to pass.

Add to the requirements - a bill must stand alone - no b/s, no pork. If there is something that ties in directly with the subject of the bill it can be attached but nothing else!

 

[Acer-m14]

i think this may hit on this ..

 

[GOPerfect]

Good info here if any are interested....

H. Res. - Adopting the Rules of the House of Representatives for the One Hundred Eighteenth Congress, and for other purposes.

rules.house.gov

 

[GOPerfect]

I am holding a bit of positive over this, I really hope we are not disappointed/

 

[GOPerfect]

Here’s how badly McCarthy got beat....

House Freedom Caucus has ~45 members (20%) but got 3 out of 9 GOP seats on all-powerful Rules Committee.

McCarthy only wanted to give 2 seats. 3 is a rather big deal because it’s Veto power on every bill.

Freedom Caucus will now control every single bill in House

 

[Acer-m14]

who ever ends up as speaker ..

we need to end the

here is the bill .. we must pass it .. then you can read it .

 

[GOPerfect]

who ever ends up as speaker ..

we need to end the

here is the bill .. we must pass it .. then you can read it .

That is part of the 118th's rules.

 

[Acer-m14]

That is part of the 118th's rules.

yep .. i know

and the last drunk house speaker buried that rule

 

[tirwin1]

Process requires the vote for speaker to happen first, member swearing-in, then rules package; however, if McCarthy tries to back out of any concession, he won’t have the votes for any rules package and we’re back to a stall. Congress can’t move without a rules package affirmed.

With this rules package, the 20 have achieved an historic accountability oversight and check on leadership and the Speaker’s power. I would consider this a TOTAL WIN for Gaetz & Co, the MAGA movement, and therefore America.

In other words, if McCarthy does not hold up to what he has agreed upon with the 20 holdouts, they can call for a motion for a new vote for speaker and this all begins again.

Sounds good. But the democrats can call for a new speaker as well. As we learned a new speaker needs a majority of those present to win. I bet the democrats are already war gaming out how to wait for a few republican absences to request a vote for a new speaker.

Don't get me wrong, on balance I am glad the 20 held out. I remain wary that McCarthy won't somehow find a way to renege on any agreement and I won't be surprised if the democrats find a way to leverage the changes to their advantage. I'm just too cynical.

 

[spat]

I see, thank you. My concern would be his ability to get dems to vote for him in that situation, to retain him as speaker. Unless I have that wrong and it's only the majority party that votes.

He would need to get enough dems to vote for him to make up for any Republicans who would not.

He's unlikely to get any, the democrats would love to see the place implode under republican leadership.

 

[GOPerfect]

Damn.... I am good..... I was right! Again.

Kevin McCarthy has won his bid to be the next Speaker of the House for the 118th Congress on the 15th ballot

 

[GOPerfect]

Kevin McCarthy elected House speaker, but at a cost

McCarthy's victory in the 15th ballot brought an end to the deepest congressional dysfunction in over 160 years. But it sharply illustrated the difficulties that the Republican leader will face in managing a narrow and deeply polarized majority.

www.reuters.com

 

[masterswimmer]

@GOPerfect thanks for a nice Readers Digest Condensed editorial of the BS we endured this week. This could be a good thing. Or not. My fear is that we see one, just one (R) go rogue and demand a new vote. If this happens too many times, and I fear it will, the effectiveness will be lost.

When the (D)'s are threatened with the little boy Biden and his crime family being investigated and threatened with impeachment proceedings we could easily see them vote to keep McCarthy as speaker knowing he's no different than them as their RINO SOTH.

The 118th Congress is shaping up to be, at the very minimum, an incredibly interesting Government Of The People. How it turns out is anyone's guess at this point.

Crossing my fingers.

 

[Waffles!]

During his acceptance speech, McCarthy says the first bill to be submitted before the 118th will be to repeal the funding for 87,000 new IRS agents.

He also said they would be creating a bi-partisan select committee to address hundred of thousands of jobs lost to CCP and making the US more competitive. They would also investigate the origins of Covid, the weaponization of the FBI and woke indoctrination in schools.

Whether you like McCarthy or not, to me those sound good and we shall see,
but of course democrats didn't cheer any of it. Apparently they disagree.

The problem as I see it is that even with the House passing such Bills, is that unless the Senate and corrupt Biden sign it,- they will go nowhere and be utterly useless.

As it is, by passing the last Omnibus Bill that funds the government thru September 2023, the swamp creatures effectively neutered House oversight until then. And of course, when the money runs out, the cries to pass shit will be overwhelming.

I watched this morning as that Dem asshole Jeffries droned on for about the Democrats liberal woke agenda for 45 minutes BEFORE handing the gavel over to McCarthy.

 

[SomeSoldier]

During his acceptance speech, McCarthy says the first bill to be submitted before the 118th will be to repeal the funding for 87,000 new IRS agents.

He also said they would be creating a bi-partisan select committee to address hundred of thousands of jobs lost to CCP and making the US more competitive. They would also investigate the origins of Covid, the weaponization of the FBI and woke indoctrination in schools.

Whether you like McCarthy or not, to me those sound good and we shall see,
but of course democrats didn't cheer any of it. Apparently they disagree.

They sound great but will they actually follow through or just bullshit through?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This is one of the proposed rules that is part of the package, this package is more than likely going to pass.

Add to the requirements - a bill must stand alone - no b/s, no pork. If there is something that ties in directly with the subject of the bill it can be attached but nothing else!

This is incredible. I don't think people realize what this means.

So much completely unaffiliated BS gets crammed into a bill on some irrelevant back page 2357 to promote something insane that has nothing to do with the bill being voted on. This is how we end up with so much utter crap.

 

[SomeSoldier]

This is incredible. I don't think people realize what this means.

So much completely unaffiliated BS gets crammed into a bill on some irrelevant back page 2357 to promote something insane that has nothing to do with the bill being voted on. This is how we end up with so much utter crap.

Probably one of the most important rules creates but unfortunately, they will still find a way to launder money.