Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

[Acer-m14]

Will be interesting to see what happens in Jersey tomorrow as Judge Bumb is holding hearings on the TRO she issued regarding the restricted places and many of the same sensitive places

did judge Bumb look up Carol Bowne ..

remember her .. She was stabbed to death in her lawn while waiting on NJ PP from x boyfriend ...
that order of protection paper really works my ass

N.J. gun association calls Berlin woman's death an 'absolute outrage'

When Carol Bowne was fatally stabbed by an ex-boyfriend late Wednesday night just outside her Berlin home, she had been waiting since mid April. Although she had filed a restraining order against suspect Michael Eitel, 45, the man attacked her shortly after 10 p.m. upon Bowne's arrival at her...

www.nj.com

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.

PolitiFact - Disproportionate share of SAFE Act arrests made in New York City

Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York

www.politifact.com

Take that site with a grain of salt.

 

[Acer-m14]

I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.

PolitiFact - Disproportionate share of SAFE Act arrests made in New York City

Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York

www.politifact.com

my brother was a State Fire Instructor till the Safe Act bit his ass from a restraining order the wife violated ... she was at his house when he got home ..

all over a little 10/20 22lr with funny plastic on it ..

2 or so yrs later my brother got all the guns back including the one the safe fuckin act bit his ass with ..

 

[Jchrisls]

4 boxes and his review of Mondays hearing with inferred predictions.


In the description of the video he has each of the 5 cases being reviewed, including the sensitive locations suit ruled on by Sinatra.

 

[Acer-m14]

4 boxes and his review of Mondays hearing with inferred predictions.


In the description of the video he has each of the 5 cases being reviewed, including the sensitive locations suit ruled on by Sinatra.

yesterday i was at my moms and shared this with her .. told mom he talks a lot lol .. mom got it .. she like the vid

 

[Acer-m14]

BTW .. there were no permits for guns back then .. even my mom called that out .. lol

who had the guns at the Boston Massacre .. lol

ohhh only the British democrats wanted them there lol

 

[Jchrisls]

yesterday i was at my moms and shared this with her .. told mom he talks a lot lol .. mom got it .. she like the vid

Unfortunately but as predicted he stated he believes this won't be decided until the summer. Unfortunately his research has found it unlikely that the ruling will go in our favor due to the appointed panel. If correct, this will be a SCOTUS case, and no new cases will be granted writs ( I believe even GVRs) until the following session in around October of 2023, if we are lucky. Even if they did decide to take it, controversial cases are almost always decided last, meaning the following year ( and that would be incredibly fast for the SC) nearly next summer, or my prediction of 18 months, in 2024.

Sad honestly. I touched the face of near freedom with my Pennsylvania permit process ( 5 minutes) and see how it should be (nearly- should be no permit, but PA is DAMN close) only to know what an uphill battle I have fought for years.

 

[maverick52]

It’s looking more and more dismal. For what it’s worth I will echo what many said on this forum. Bruen has done more harm than good. It will be a long time before NY sees any relief.

 

[That_FNG]

I say simply this, what is freedom worth? If to be free you had to wait 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, would it be worth it? All storms look bad before you endure them. There is no law that can not be undone, no wall that can not come down, no injustice that can’t be made right. For what man has created, man can undo.

 

[Saltwater60]

I say simply this, what is freedom worth? If to be free you had to wait 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, would it be worth it? All storms look bad before you endure them. There is no law that can not be undone, no wall that can not come down, no injustice that can’t be made right. For what man has created, man can undo.

Funny how you made that speech sounds so positive. I read it and thought yep he’s right and the liberals can undo the constitution and the second amendment. Sorry and not trying to burst your Bible as I do think we will get a mediocre positive ruling because if not it’s surely to go to the Supreme Court. If they toss us a bone the plaintiffs might be satisfied and not pursue it any further.

 

[Jchrisls]

For anyone interested I believe a livestream of oral arguments will begin at 10 AM this morning. Looks to last less than 2 hours.

Court Calendar

www.ca2.uscourts.gov

The livestream can be found on the page above.

Edit- upon review, the stream will begin at 9:45 AM

 

[maverick52]

The problem we have is much deeepr than just this case. It’s the mindset of the left that sees conservative politicians and judges as illegitimate. It’s been going on too long. Conservative play by the rules. Liberals never do. Donald Trump had the balls to defy them in ways no one ever did. And look what they did to him. Now they will seek to arrest him this week. And no one else but our buddy Alvin Bragg. I don’t know what this case will bring, but no matter what happens I don’t have much confidence in this system.

 

[Saltwater60]

The problem we have is much deeepr than just this case. It’s the mindset of the left that sees conservative politicians and judges as illegitimate. It’s been going on too long. Conservative play by the rules. Liberals never do. Donald Trump had the balls to defy them in ways no one ever did. And look what they did to him. Now they will seek to arrest him this week. And no one else but our buddy Alvin Bragg. I don’t know what this case will bring, but no matter what happens I don’t have much confidence in this system.

I have been saying this for a while now and glad to see others raising it. That’s why I feel even if we win this case when the left takes back control of the Supreme Court or packs it this will change. We will forever be on our toes and fighting this.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I know my dad and brother have both made safe act arrests. I know some were tossed out.
I mean honestly anything over ten rounds or any assault weapons arrest is a safe act arrest. Also any private sale person to person arrest is a safe act arrest.
Here is a general breakdown of safe act arrests per county.

PolitiFact - Disproportionate share of SAFE Act arrests made in New York City

Republican lawmakers in Albany are pushing a new proposal to repeal New York state’s 2013 gun control law, the New York

www.politifact.com

Just curious to the mindset of your dad/brother making safe act arrests?

Do you ever ask them why they did or what were the additional circumstances? Do they ever turn a blind eye to safe act violations?

 

[Saltwater60]

Just curious to the mindset of your dad/brother making safe act arrests?

Do you ever ask them why they did or what were the additional circumstances? Do they ever turn a blind eye to safe act violations?

I don’t think they mention turning blind eyes to things like that because they don’t want that made public. I know my brother made the comment and thought the 30 day amnesty period is still in effect so I just said ok great. Yes most of not all are combined with other criminal actions.

 

[Different Drummer]

I don’t think they mention turning blind eyes to things like that because they don’t want that made public. I know my brother made the comment and thought the 30 day amnesty period is still in effect so I just said ok great. Yes most of not all are combined with other criminal actions.

A Judge on the second circuit panel just pointed out ( actually sounded like argued ) that the District Attorney in Niagara County was not bound to prosecute any felony related to the NYS Penal law with or without an injunction. And also pointed out that they are immune from any action against them if they elect not to prosecute. That Judge is putting forth exactly what is causing so much mayhem in our law enforcement / Judicial system in so many areas of the Country. Seems like this approach would extend down the chain and include LEO.
Trouble is "we the people" are at the bottom of that chain and we have no way of knowing who and when any entity above us will decide to take a bite out of us. So your fate may depend on whether or not some LEO had a fight with their spouse before leaving for work that morning or if the District Attorney was suffering from menstrual cramps the day your case come across their desk. Or, is that LEO you have an encounter with one of the true professionals or are they one of the "Dicks" that got into the business because of their Napoleon little man syndrome.
Rant over!

 

[maverick52]

Today was a total shit show

 

[Willyone]

Today was a total shit show

As expected.

 

[Hierlevelz]

I take it that it wasn't a good today? -sigh-

 

[MikeM]

i try to listen and i get "this video is private"

 

[Willyone]

Not just gun rights.... Dems and libs seem to be out to make NYS as undesirable as possible to anyone who values freedom of most any kind. Leaving the state population socialist, with a sprinkle of enough sheep to bow to their needs and wants. I wonder if chatty Kathy makes secret visits to Cali to suck girlyman Newsome's dick, if he actually has one.

 

[Saltwater60]

A Judge on the second circuit panel just pointed out ( actually sounded like argued ) that the District Attorney in Niagara County was not bound to prosecute any felony related to the NYS Penal law with or without an injunction. And also pointed out that they are immune from any action against them if they elect not to prosecute. That Judge is putting forth exactly what is causing so much mayhem in our law enforcement / Judicial system in so many areas of the Country. Seems like this approach would extend down the chain and include LEO.
Trouble is "we the people" are at the bottom of that chain and we have no way of knowing who and when any entity above us will decide to take a bite out of us. So your fate may depend on whether or not some LEO had a fight with their spouse before leaving for work that morning or if the District Attorney was suffering from menstrual cramps the day your case come across their desk. Or, is that LEO you have an encounter with one of the true professionals or are they one of the "Dicks" that got into the business because of their Napoleon little man syndrome.
Rant over!

Of course that makes sense. The problem is the police chief is told what to do by the city and then the cops are told what to do by the police chief. My towns police chief is a raging democrat and I can’t believe some of the things I heard he has said. I won’t repeat them on here because someone I know may get in trouble for it and they are very specific things.

 

[camper4lyfe]

i try to listen and i get "this video is private"

It was a live stream, and it's over. There's currently nothing to watch.

 

[Jchrisls]

Not just gun rights.... Dems and libs seem to be out to make NYS as undesirable as possible to anyone who values freedom of most any kind. Leaving the state population socialist, with a sprinkle of enough sheep to bow to their needs and wants. I wonder if chatty Kathy makes secret visits to Cali to suck girlyman Newsome's dick, if he actually has one.

You sure it isn't the other way around?

 

[Willyone]

You sure it isn't the other way around?

Well, it's hard to say now daze.

 

[misunderestimated]

Well any thoughts did any one listen to it ?

 

[Jchrisls]

Well any thoughts did any one listen to it ?

Look above. Many comments on it

 

[misunderestimated]

Look above. Many comments on it

I did not sea any meat and potatoes comments other then it was a shit show

 

[JRtraderny]

 

[Saltwater60]

I did not sea any meat and potatoes comments other then it was a shit show

That’s a pretty good sum up and sounds right. I didn’t listen but hey.