The house does not have a filibuster, it only takes 218 to pass anything they want. Where are you getting the 60% rule for the HoR?
Nation wide reciprocal carry?
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spat
.950 JDJ
No 60% rule in the house.
I stand corrected, I was rushing to type that and messed up in the house.
But still 199 cosponsors that leaves only 19 more to vote yes to move on
But still 199 cosponsors that leaves only 19 more to vote yes to move on
SJ42
.40 S&W
I wouldn't rush and plan your cross country trip with you favorite handgun yet . I hope someday I can be told I was wrong about this but I'm betting I will never see it.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I think even if this does pass, it will be tied up in lawsuits for sure....BUUUUUUUUUT, by then we could very well have a conservative heavy court and FINALLY have this put to rest.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
We want Hudson's bill from the house to pass. That one allows you to carry in NY with a permit from any state.
The one from the Senate doesn't and specifically says that you need a home state permit.
The one from the Senate doesn't and specifically says that you need a home state permit.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Does that mean judge issued restrictions are null and void? I can carry with my, as of now, restricted permit? Or would I need to go and get another state's "non-resident" permit to be able to carry here at home?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
If Hudson's bill passes, you can carry on your Florida license.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
Whatever, if anything, that makes it easier for lawful concealed carriers to carry nationwide without this hodge podge of permits and confusion, our communist leader will be sure to either not honor it or ram through some kind of contrary measure to prevent "his" subjects from taking part. You can see it from his behavior already. I called this some time ago. Whatever Trump does to improve life for regular Americans, the communist totalitarian progressive governors like ours will go against and we will realize only negatives as though Hillary had won.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
Freaking pure weakness. Turn your TV off.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
2nd amendment means there was to never be any state gun control. So this bill we are waiting on is for to make something to happen that was a natural right as the 2nd ensures?
4excal
.338 Win Mag
Annd not even a peep still about anything 2A related from Trumpet. .....getting pppreeeety pissed off about hearing "this signed for health this signed for VA this executive ordered that overturned..." What about a simple Nationwide Carry license?? How tough can it be to follow and enact? You want a pistol or driving license make it the same exact way, you get one from motor vehicles department..End of story, all states have to abide..done. WTF!!!
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It's frustrating for sure. With all the BS flying around, I'm not surprised we've heard nothing. It is one of the most contentious topics of our day though. It would be nice to have this pass and have it be one more thing to cause the libs' heads to explode, lol.
4excal
.338 Win Mag
Or at least any damn word on anything firearm related, to at least make the population and NRA feel alittle better for voting him in
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
RRRIIIIGGGHHHHTTTTTT
Only twice in the history of the country has the presidents party carried the mid terms, but yea I know I'm weak and watch to much spongebob
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Look I said early in this thread I hope I'm wrong, really really wrong, but history is not on our side
Update, H.R. 38 is now at 200 cosponsors. Just shy of the 218 votes it would need to pass
S. 446 is at 37 cosponsors out of the 51 (60 realistically speaking) needed to pass.
Which if H.R. 38 passes and goes to the Senate, that would mean a good estimate of 37 already willing to vote yes on it (+/-). Or if S. 446 passes first and goes to the House there would already be 200 votes (Again +/-) to pass that one.
S. 446 is at 37 cosponsors out of the 51 (60 realistically speaking) needed to pass.
Which if H.R. 38 passes and goes to the Senate, that would mean a good estimate of 37 already willing to vote yes on it (+/-). Or if S. 446 passes first and goes to the House there would already be 200 votes (Again +/-) to pass that one.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
This is good news! I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing no one is covering it in the news.
Day444
.223 Rem
It's news the Snowflakes don't want to hear! News the Anti-Trump ass wipes don't want to hear!
News that doesn't fit the agenda of the anti-second amendment sheep!
It's not good news for those who want to stamp on others rights, while promoting their own.
No liberal rag/news outlet would print this story, so that's a majority of the media.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
To me it's a good thing. Fewer anti-gun stooges and FUDDs to call their senators and bitch. That means WE get to call them and bitch, first! I think the support for this measure really picked up after Scalise was shot. I seem to recall it sitting around 100 or so co sponsors for the House bill, and now all of a sudden it's at 200.
I did some research into where HR38 is stuck, and here is what I found. When it was introduced back in January, it was assigned to go through the House Judiciary Committee, but more specifically, it is sitting on a sub committee, namely: The Subcommittee of Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations.
So, WTF gives? Why haven't they done anything with it? The subcommittee has 16 members, 9 Rep's and 7 Dem's. I'm going to write and call the offices of the 9 Rep's for all of the good is will do..., and ask them point blank: What the hell is the holdup???
Here is the list of the 8 Rep's. Comments and phone numbers to be added as I go.
Chairman: Trey Gowdy - SC-04, - Phone (202) 225 6030 x 2. Mailbox full!
Vice Chair: Louie Gohmert - TX-01 - (202) 225 3035 Fax: (202) 226 1230 They took my name and message for Mr. Gohmert re HR38.
Jim Sensenbrenner, Jr. - WI-05 - (202) 225 5101 They took my name and message, and said he will respond to me.
Steve Chabot - OH-01 - (202) 225 2216 Fax: (202) 225 3012 Left message in favor of it, but won't expect a response.
Ted Poe - TX-02 - (202) 225 6565
Jason Chaffetz - UT-03 - (202) 225 7751 Leaving Congress 6/30/17...
John Ratcliffe - TX-04 - (972) 771 0100 Fax: (972 771 1222 District office address: 6531 Horizon Road. Suite A. Rockwall, TX 75032
Martha Roby - AL-02
Mike Johnson - LA-04
So, WTF gives? Why haven't they done anything with it? The subcommittee has 16 members, 9 Rep's and 7 Dem's. I'm going to write and call the offices of the 9 Rep's for all of the good is will do..., and ask them point blank: What the hell is the holdup???
Here is the list of the 8 Rep's. Comments and phone numbers to be added as I go.
Chairman: Trey Gowdy - SC-04, - Phone (202) 225 6030 x 2. Mailbox full!
Vice Chair: Louie Gohmert - TX-01 - (202) 225 3035 Fax: (202) 226 1230 They took my name and message for Mr. Gohmert re HR38.
Jim Sensenbrenner, Jr. - WI-05 - (202) 225 5101 They took my name and message, and said he will respond to me.
Steve Chabot - OH-01 - (202) 225 2216 Fax: (202) 225 3012 Left message in favor of it, but won't expect a response.
Ted Poe - TX-02 - (202) 225 6565
Jason Chaffetz - UT-03 - (202) 225 7751 Leaving Congress 6/30/17...
John Ratcliffe - TX-04 - (972) 771 0100 Fax: (972 771 1222 District office address: 6531 Horizon Road. Suite A. Rockwall, TX 75032
Martha Roby - AL-02
Mike Johnson - LA-04
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Pros and Cons on the national reciprocity. You have to look at the state you're a resident from. If you're from NY, CA damn near anything looks good. If you're from a state that requires no permit, you might end up with a permit requirement. Ying and yang.
No state has abused and over regulated the 2A like NY has.
No state has abused and over regulated the 2A like NY has.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
If national reciprocity is passed, I will be relocating my happy ass to PA immediately, even if I have to rent a postage stamp of land and stick a mailbox on it. Mostly, I want it to pass in order to give two middle fingers to NY, NJ, MD and DC.
@VietnamEraVet, thank you for the phone numbers of the committee members. Contacting the R's to voice my support and encourage them to move this ahead.
@VietnamEraVet, thank you for the phone numbers of the committee members. Contacting the R's to voice my support and encourage them to move this ahead.
The only cons I see are that it would likely not go far enough. As for people from states that now have Constitutional Carry, most if not all of those states have left their permit process in place for people that need a permit for reciprocity with other states. So, I don't see any downside there.
If it were to pass, and allow me to carry in those states that refuse pretty much any reciprocity, that is a positive as far as I am concerned. And if it gives the anti gun fuckers a massive case of heartburn when additional carriers begin carrying in their little anti gun fiefdoms, - well, all the better!
Onegunnotenough
.40 S&W
they better get in gear and get those cosponsors going, tick tock tick tock
Just a small update
H.R. 38 is now up to 204 cosponsors (needs 218 votes to pass and move on to the Senate, where it needs 51 votes to pass, or 60 because we all know it will get filibustered)
And the Senate has their own bill similar to the House. It currently has 37 cosponsors. And would be safe to say that that means 37 that most likely would vote on the House bill if that passes first
H.R. 38 is now up to 204 cosponsors (needs 218 votes to pass and move on to the Senate, where it needs 51 votes to pass, or 60 because we all know it will get filibustered)
And the Senate has their own bill similar to the House. It currently has 37 cosponsors. And would be safe to say that that means 37 that most likely would vote on the House bill if that passes first
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
H.R. 38 (The House Bill) is the one we want. It'll render the Sullivan Act in NY meaningless. A NY resident will be able to carry in NY including NYC and out of state with an out of state non resident license.
The Senate Bill (S.446 ) however has specific language that requires you to have a home state license. A NY resident with a restricted license will be able to carry out of state unrestricted but will be only able to carry in NY restricted with his or her NY license. NYC will still be off limits with a NY license whether restricted or unrestricted.
The Senate Bill (S.446 ) however has specific language that requires you to have a home state license. A NY resident with a restricted license will be able to carry out of state unrestricted but will be only able to carry in NY restricted with his or her NY license. NYC will still be off limits with a NY license whether restricted or unrestricted.
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I just worry if the House Bill as you describe isn't to bitter a pill for the antis to swallow. I further worry that if the House Bill fails to get through it screws the pooch for further attempts. But if it is the House Bill that finds its legs first than so be it.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The House Bill also gives you reciprocity with the standard capacity magazine of the gun you are carrying and the ammunition in the gun itself. The Senate Bill provides no such protections.