meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I would use a different term than looney.
Are terrorists really sane or is a way for us to somehow subconsciously find there is a
justification for that kind of hate? We easily fall into the PC logic and narrative.
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I would use a different term than looney.
Are terrorists really sane or is a way for us to somehow subconsciously find there is a
justification for that kind of hate? We easily fall into the PC logic and narrative.
No, I don't think so. If she werr Malaysian you might have something.
It nay be he is just a vanilla, non politcal, psycho.
News is reporting converted AR15/10s in .223 &.308 used by shooter.
Las Vegas shooting: Killer bought more than 30 weapons, source says
Las Vegas shooting: Killer bought more than 30 weapons, source says
I say looney in the idiomatic sense of not being "normal".
Fanaticism is not a state of mental ill being but is a form of extreme social position. But if this creature is neither an ISIS agent nor a Leftist gone haywire than it is indeed a looney.
Maybe the fact it was a country festival is coincidental. Could be that it was just a convenient mass gathering?
If it is an ISIS thing the facts will be suppressed.
I hate it when I post in the quote box.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Who Was Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock And What Was His Motive?
Recordings of the attack suggested that Paddock used an automatic weapon. Paddock, who arrived at the hotel on Thursday, was found with more than 10 rifles, Lombardo said. Relatives said they knew Paddock owned guns, but believed they were legal.
Before he opened fire late Sunday, gunman Stephen Paddock lived a quiet life for years in a small town outside Las Vegas, the WaPo writes.
A retired man, Paddock often visited Las Vegas to gamble and take in concerts, his relatives said. Public records show he was a licensed pilot, who owned two planes. And he had a hunting license from Alaska. For several years, he appeared to live in Mesquite, Tex. But property records show he chose to move to another town named Mesquite in Nevada, where he bought a home in 2013 and has been living there ever since.
Paddock’s family said there was nothing in his past that would suggest violence. “We are in complete shock bewilderment and horror. We have absolutely no idea how in the world Steve did this. Absolutely no concept,” said one relative, who spoke anonymously to avoid hurting other relatives. “There was nothing secret or strange about him.”
Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling. They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels.
Las Vegas police said authorities were in the process of searching Paddock’s home in Mesquite, Nev., on Monday morning. Quinn Averett, a spokesman for Mesquite Police in Nevada said Paddock was unknown to local authorities in the city where he owns a home 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Mesquite police have no recorded interactions with Paddock. Las Vegas police said this about Lombardo.
“We have no investigative information or background associated with this individual that is derogatory,” Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said. “The only thing we can tell is he received a citation several years ago, that citation was handled as a matter of normal practice in the court system.”
Who Was Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock And What Was His Motive?
Just an average grandpa living out in a small town
Mesquite is a city in Clark County, Nevada, United States, adjacent to the Arizona state line and 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas on Interstate 15. As of 2015, the United States Census estimates that the city had a population of 17,496. Wikipedia
Recordings of the attack suggested that Paddock used an automatic weapon. Paddock, who arrived at the hotel on Thursday, was found with more than 10 rifles, Lombardo said. Relatives said they knew Paddock owned guns, but believed they were legal.
Before he opened fire late Sunday, gunman Stephen Paddock lived a quiet life for years in a small town outside Las Vegas, the WaPo writes.
A retired man, Paddock often visited Las Vegas to gamble and take in concerts, his relatives said. Public records show he was a licensed pilot, who owned two planes. And he had a hunting license from Alaska. For several years, he appeared to live in Mesquite, Tex. But property records show he chose to move to another town named Mesquite in Nevada, where he bought a home in 2013 and has been living there ever since.
Paddock’s family said there was nothing in his past that would suggest violence. “We are in complete shock bewilderment and horror. We have absolutely no idea how in the world Steve did this. Absolutely no concept,” said one relative, who spoke anonymously to avoid hurting other relatives. “There was nothing secret or strange about him.”
Family members said that Paddock spent much of his retirement in recent years staying in hotels in Las Vegas and gambling. They said he listened to country music and went to concerts at Vegas hotels.
Las Vegas police said authorities were in the process of searching Paddock’s home in Mesquite, Nev., on Monday morning. Quinn Averett, a spokesman for Mesquite Police in Nevada said Paddock was unknown to local authorities in the city where he owns a home 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Mesquite police have no recorded interactions with Paddock. Las Vegas police said this about Lombardo.
“We have no investigative information or background associated with this individual that is derogatory,” Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said. “The only thing we can tell is he received a citation several years ago, that citation was handled as a matter of normal practice in the court system.”
Who Was Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock And What Was His Motive?
Just an average grandpa living out in a small town
Mesquite is a city in Clark County, Nevada, United States, adjacent to the Arizona state line and 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas on Interstate 15. As of 2015, the United States Census estimates that the city had a population of 17,496. Wikipedia
It'll probably be weeks before we know anything official and already people are fielding conspiracy theories AND we all know the mainstream media lies and crackpot bloggers can say any crazy thing that comes to mind.
All I do know is that a lot of conservative, red-state Americans got killed and wounded. The simple, obvious question is why were they targeted and not some other group?
All I do know is that a lot of conservative, red-state Americans got killed and wounded. The simple, obvious question is why were they targeted and not some other group?
What?
He means that there are already a bunch of bullshit laws about full auto weapons, yet this guy still used one.
Exonautic
.308 Win
Most if not all hotels in vegas will have an armory to store any firearms due to the high amount of people going there for training as was mentioned. plus all teh trade shows and such in vegas.
you're not likely to see the flash from a firearm on a shitty phone camera. the fps isnt fast enough to capture it most of the time.
It may make a big difference.
How?
Exonautic
.308 Win
The actions of course suck, but the motive is going to determine how this is handled in the future which is what i believe many people are currently worried about. Nothing will undo what occurred, but whatever occurs in the next month due to this will likely leave a lasting impression on our nation and the motive will almost definitely have an impact on that.
How?
Politics, always politics. If the shooter were connected with ISIS it may be just a little less politically palatable to pass anti gun legislation. If its a Scalise situation it might all get hushed up. We didn't hear all the much from the dems after that incident as I recall.
Exonautic
.308 Win
If this actually was an act of terrorism inspired by isis, than i think a lot more nsa snooping may occur, because it means we have a domestic terrorist problem that is apparently growing.
if he was a disgruntled leftist who did this targeting conservatives and trying to make a statement at trump, antifa and the extreme left are going to lose a whole lot of the slack they've been given by the media, and i think there will be a big sense of distrust in our nation. and the divide gets bigger.
either way, ccr probably just died with his actions, as well as saga. share act may still have a chance to pass but it just got a whole hell of a lot harder, and our friendly neighborhood rinos aren't going to do shit to stop cuomo from passing any form of safe act 2.
No matter what, it will be a white guy that killed people with an AR, and gun control will be pushed. I don't care if the motive is that he ordered bacon for breakfast and got sausage. The motive doesn't really matter.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I kinda don't agree with that. A dominant democratic Senate and House would pass gun control regardless. It could have been an off duty cop and it'll still pass.
This crazy fuck would have used an airplane if he didn't have a gun!! It wasn't the gun's fault... it is an inanimate object!! When will people understand that crazy fuckers do crazy shit!! BUT, then again... we know the gun-grabbers will NEVER, EVER let an atrocity go by. They will stand on the bodies of the dead to push their agenda!!
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
If its ISIS the cry could be "why are we disarming our people in the face of attack by the enemy"
I just don't see the relevance.
I coulden't care less what some nutjob claims they massacred people for.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's rational people speaking. Calls for more gun control were talked about after the Paris AK47 attack.
You are not a DC politician though. We have to pander to the lowest common denominator, remember?
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
They are now reporting that police found among other rifles a AR with a bumpfire stock in the hotel and the shooter had a camera set up to record his handiwork...
Europe, France in particular, is even less rational than the US is.
Vids or it didn't happen.
Either way, bumpfire stocks are onbthe block.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Okay! Lets put together what we know.
The guy with the pussy hat at a anti Trump Rally.
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'
CBS Hyphenated female fired because they were Country Music Fans.
ISIS claiming responsibility.
Rumor about ANTIFA literature in his possession.
The media so wants this guy to be a Right wing nut job, but all signs are pointing to one of their own types and the type they are preaching to day and day, hour after hour.
The guy with the pussy hat at a anti Trump Rally.
CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'
CBS Hyphenated female fired because they were Country Music Fans.
ISIS claiming responsibility.
Rumor about ANTIFA literature in his possession.
The media so wants this guy to be a Right wing nut job, but all signs are pointing to one of their own types and the type they are preaching to day and day, hour after hour.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
It might not concern you one bit, but for law enforcement it narrows down the field of who an attack may come from next and target that group of people.ISIS , Antifa NAZIS , KKK, black Panthers, MS13, . True,doesn't help any victims one bit, but it might help save lives later on.
If he is a lone wolf , ( which appears to the case) not much can be done, but if had leanings toward ANTIFA which is openly calling for violence or ISIS it gives law enforcement an area to focus on ,and It also possibly give them reasonable suspicion to detain if necessary.
It might not put humpty dumpty together again but it might prevent him from getting pushed off the wall next time.
If he is a lone wolf , ( which appears to the case) not much can be done, but if had leanings toward ANTIFA which is openly calling for violence or ISIS it gives law enforcement an area to focus on ,and It also possibly give them reasonable suspicion to detain if necessary.
It might not put humpty dumpty together again but it might prevent him from getting pushed off the wall next time.