300blk
Sitting here...waiting on a deer....Pic thread
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Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wait! What? People hunt with those evil black rifles! NO WAYYYYYY!
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Remember...if you see any undead while you're out there...head shots! Always head shots.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Shoulda brought a crossbow for the longer shots 
Good luck. I'm jealous.
Good luck. I'm jealous.
Magnus
6.5 Creedmoor
Loaded with incendiary heat seeking rounds? So you can cook the deer at the same time.
No shooting required..black rifles just scare them to death.
AKs shoot themselves...i dont even have to be in woods if I had one.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I'm thinking about a 300blk upper for the same purpose. Despite it being legal to use .223, I have an ethical problem with it right now.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Fixed it for ya. You should be more careful or @meketrefe is gonna come beat some sense into ya for talkin like that.
I've gone back and forth on the .223 as a deer round. Personally, I won't use it. I've got a .308 and don't see myself switching away from it. If that's all that someone has, I guess it's OK. From what I gather, as long as you take "shorter" shots of 200 yards or less, choose a heavy, solid bullet (like Hornady GMX, Nosler Partition, etc), and are careful to only take broadside shots, it's a viable cartridge. It certainly wouldn't be my first choice though.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It is all cool with me.
The +P carbine, whisper/blackout, 9x25, as well as many other light-for-caliber pistol cartriges might do the job but they might fall short so one
hast to keep it close range and be very good with shot placement.
I think in the pistol world it is a good idea to compensate the lack of speed with lots of grain and momentum and frontal section that is what popular
thumpers in 40, 430, 45 and 50 calibers are for. Also terminal designs that have improved for all calibers but for the light small calibers still fall short
as one has to rely solely in wounding potential.
But it seems to me, all over, the need for being tacticool supersedes the desire to use the right tool for the job.
I get it, hunting with ones upper and AR is nice, I like it too. But also it is not like there is a lack of better yet still simple alternatives that
provide more power and this way guarantee fast humane kills.
We all see the amazing kills any cartridge does. What people do not talk about is the huge number of slow deaths and lost and injured game.
Anyone who has hunted long enough have seen this and how sad and tragic this is.
I love the whisper/blackout to shoot subsonic loads that is what it was designed to do. I can take a coyote w/o anyone hearing a thing like
the angel of death but in NYS we cannot have cans so that limits this aspect a little bit although there are pretty quiet loads even w/o a can.
just keep it real always and take with a grain of salt what the marketing folks and tacticool evangelists are trying to sell online all over.
The +P carbine, whisper/blackout, 9x25, as well as many other light-for-caliber pistol cartriges might do the job but they might fall short so one
hast to keep it close range and be very good with shot placement.
I think in the pistol world it is a good idea to compensate the lack of speed with lots of grain and momentum and frontal section that is what popular
thumpers in 40, 430, 45 and 50 calibers are for. Also terminal designs that have improved for all calibers but for the light small calibers still fall short
as one has to rely solely in wounding potential.
But it seems to me, all over, the need for being tacticool supersedes the desire to use the right tool for the job.
I get it, hunting with ones upper and AR is nice, I like it too. But also it is not like there is a lack of better yet still simple alternatives that
provide more power and this way guarantee fast humane kills.
We all see the amazing kills any cartridge does. What people do not talk about is the huge number of slow deaths and lost and injured game.
Anyone who has hunted long enough have seen this and how sad and tragic this is.
I love the whisper/blackout to shoot subsonic loads that is what it was designed to do. I can take a coyote w/o anyone hearing a thing like
the angel of death but in NYS we cannot have cans so that limits this aspect a little bit although there are pretty quiet loads even w/o a can.
just keep it real always and take with a grain of salt what the marketing folks and tacticool evangelists are trying to sell online all over.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Shotgun country where I live so I use my handgun. When I hunt at my moms I have a choice of .223 or .22-250. But if you can lay down 1" groups, scrambling their brains works just as fast with a .223 as it does with a .308.
I do want a .458 SOCOM upper for deer hunting though, you know, just because
I do want a .458 SOCOM upper for deer hunting though, you know, just because
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I have to say looks like a beautiful spot. I'd love to be sitting there right now.
swilliams
6.5 Creedmoor
I would have liked to be out there today, but had a meeting for one of my kids. I'm debating taking them out of school on Friday, and heading to PA Thursday night. That gives me Friday and Saturday to hunt.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Shotgun country where I live so I use my handgun. When I hunt at my moms I have a choice of .223 or .22-250. But if you can lay down 1" groups, scrambling their brains works just as fast with a .223 as it does with a .308.
I do want a .458 SOCOM upper for deer hunting though, you know, just because
I have a .22-250 that I can knock the center of a clay pigeon at 100+ yds. But I use light fast rounds with it (Winchester 40gr silver ballistic tips...awesome for chucks. I'd have a tough time using that on deer.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
That's why I'm not huge on .223. I can go up to ~77gr with my AR (18" barrel with 1:8 twist). Shot placement is too critical to risk it. You know, ethics and all.
I am shooting 125gr hollow pt Speer TNT supersonics that I reload myself. There are reasons I use the AR pistol . 1st, no long range shots in my spot due to density. 2nd, I am in a tree stand and need manueverability. 3rd, 300 Blackout achieves needed velocity in a 9" barrel which my 10.5 is more than acceptable. 4th, yeah, its fun using an MSR.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I'm shooting 55g V-Max at about 3700fps. Wish I had something bigger but for the time being I only have my AR and Savage .22-250. Both plenty accurate for head shots but I'm not sure I'd try a heart shot, although shot placement is easy with them. Haven't decided yet but I gotta choose something soon, I haven't had any shots here yet. May need to hunt at my mothers.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I don't like head shots. The target is too small and there's too much chance of just completely mangling the deer rather than killing it.
So, I get home from deer hunting today and look whos waiting for me.
Not only is he stanfing 10 feet from my window, he proceeds to go out front and rub his stupid antlers on my tree. Dirty SOB.
I told myself im not shooting the tame yard deer, so ive been going way back on the property where apparently there are no deer. What a dilemma.
Not only is he stanfing 10 feet from my window, he proceeds to go out front and rub his stupid antlers on my tree. Dirty SOB.
I told myself im not shooting the tame yard deer, so ive been going way back on the property where apparently there are no deer. What a dilemma.
Gunner57
.223 Rem
That's just not fair!
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I know they are handy. that is why I designed the 35 gunner to send some serious lead. What about the socom? Or even the 6.8 that is amazing from
small barrels too? Any of those in 10" but a lot more killing power.
Your better man than me. I would shoot that beast so fast the safety wouldn't be fully off yet.
Gunner57
.223 Rem
Well, I would have let him walk... until he started fucking with my tree!
Here's a picture from my stand thanksgiving morning. Sorry no gun picture.
I'd pop that buck right from the doorway. I wouldn't even step outside.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
I'd pop that buck right from the doorway. I wouldn't even step outside.
Learn from my cousin's mistake: don't do that with a black powder.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
This dumb ass keeps coming by and no matter how much I toy with him he keeps coming back. He's lucky 15-20 years ago I would have smoked him by now.Regarding the .223 I have taken a few deer with my evil one they didn't go far but I prefer my 30/30. If you can't make a good kill shot on it you shouldn't be dropping the hammer with any caliber