New York Jailbreak Law / Bail Reform/ Articles/Stories and Discussions(multi-merged thread)
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Jmac00
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the questions is, should society let an accused killer or rapist, out of jail with no incentive to come back to court. Who becomes responsible if that murderer or rapist, out on his/her own recognizance, kills or rapes another person?
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Is murder and rape 2 of the things you can be let out without bail?
gun_slinger_boy
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Second post on this whole thread. I gotta ask though. Should safe act violations be let out without bail? Why or why not?
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
why not, a violation of the UN-safe act is a non-violent crime. Get a ticket and go home
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Ok good. So are people currently in jail for rape and murder going to be let out without bail with this program?
Toecutter
.308 Win
Short answer no, read the bill. If you are violent or dangerous a judge can still set bail or held with no bail. Some instances they will use ankle trackers to insure they dont run or go near people they shouldn't. Again this is jail not prison. These people are presumed to be innocent they are awaiting trial.
repete
.338 Win Mag
But don't get caught with 11 rounds in a mag!
I love and respect the Constitution. That magnificent document does indeed spell out bail. It does not state, innocent until proven guilty.
It is not just the bail part of this law that I am against.
One of the things this bill does is take away the privacy rights of victims. Guy rapes a women, he will now have the ability to know hher name as well as where she lives and works. This will all become public information. The crim will also have the right to re-enter the crime scene to assist in his defense.
Guy breaks into your home, gets arrested... He is able to come back into your home.
Just saying... This is absolutely not a good thing for the good people of NY!
Just the other day, guy gets arrested for DV, goes to court and gets ROR'ed. Goes back to his live in girlfriend's home and chokes her out. Yep, she is dead! Should have been held in jail or a really high bail.
Jmac00
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The guy can't come back on his/her own, wouldn't they have to have an investigator and/or attorney with them. what if you get a restraining order?? so only a investigator or attorney can be on you property?
And if this were to ever actually happen to any female relations of mine I will be patiently waiting there with a baseball bat to crack open the perps scull. The law be damned.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Schmitt slams new “bail reforms” in wake of release of driver in hit-and-run fatality - Mid Hudson News
STONY POINT – A man, who is in the United States illegally and was unlicensed to drive a car, struck a killed a mother of three on Christmas Eve in Stony Point and with the state’s new bail reforms to take effect formally on January 1, 2020, he was released following arraignment. The incident...
midhudsonnews.com
Jmac00
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Schmitt slams new “bail reforms” in wake of release of driver in hit-and-run fatality - Mid Hudson News
STONY POINT – A man, who is in the United States illegally and was unlicensed to drive a car, struck a killed a mother of three on Christmas Eve in Stony Point and with the state’s new bail reforms to take effect formally on January 1, 2020, he was released following arraignment. The incident...
thanx andy, you piece of shit, you're more worried about the number of bullets in my magazine than illegal aliens killing our citizens, you are a special kind of evil
1075tech
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E the massive
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Don't forget the lawyer or investigator.
Robin
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I get it but thats like pissing in the flames and hoping to put the fire out. Aim at the source, Albany!
Robin
Exactly
livingston
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Yale Psychiatrist Claims Pelosi Can Subject Trump to ‘Involuntary’ Mental Health Evaluation
Yale Medicine Professor of Psychiatry Bandy X. Lee claims that Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the “right to have [Trump] submit to an involuntary evaluation.”
Professor Lee, of the Yale University School of Medicine, also serves as president of the World Mental Health Coalition. She has been a longstanding and outspoken critic of President Donald Trump, providing “translations” of his communications on her Twitter feed.
Lee said the country “simply cannot ignore the dangers” of a President she described as “highly unwell,” and she is “beginning to believe that a mental health hold, which we have tried to avoid, will become inevitable
www.breitbart.com
Yale Medicine Professor of Psychiatry Bandy X. Lee claims that Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the “right to have [Trump] submit to an involuntary evaluation.”
Professor Lee, of the Yale University School of Medicine, also serves as president of the World Mental Health Coalition. She has been a longstanding and outspoken critic of President Donald Trump, providing “translations” of his communications on her Twitter feed.
Lee said the country “simply cannot ignore the dangers” of a President she described as “highly unwell,” and she is “beginning to believe that a mental health hold, which we have tried to avoid, will become inevitable
Psychiatrist: Pelosi Can Subject Trump to 'Involuntary' Evaluation
Yale Professor of Psychiatry Bandy Lee claims that Speaker Nancy Pelosi has the "right to have [Trump] submit to an involuntary evaluation."
www.breitbart.com
livingston
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The Gulag: Lost Millions
The system of forced-labor camps in which Anatoly Shcharansky was incarcerated is nearly as old as the Soviet Union itself. Established by Lenin in 1919, the gulags were used on a massive scale by Stalin. From 1936 to 1953 as many as 15 million people - peasants, dissidents, ethnic minorities - were swept into the camps, many to be literally worked to death. But not until Alexander Solzhenitsyn published The Gulag Archipelago in 1974 did the West realize the extent and ruthlessness of the Soviet prison network. Today experts estimate that more than 2 million people are held in nearly 1,000 camps. Shcharansky believes this number is 5 million.
More than 10,000 may be imprisoned for “political crimes.” The most common political charge is “anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda” - a catchall covering any criticism, from public protest to private letters. Unauthorized religious activity might cost 10 years. One Ukrainian was sentenced to seven years for writing a ballad in the Ukrainian folk style. Another prisoner, punished for writing poetry, died after 12 hungry months in solitary.
Troublemakers may be sent to psychiatric hospitals and given huge doses of mind-altering drugs that cause convulsions, raging temperatures, acute pain and such long-term effects as loss of vision and paralysis. Such a cure for rebellion rarely fails.
Shades of what the communists did to their political problems ....The left mimic the communist more every day
The system of forced-labor camps in which Anatoly Shcharansky was incarcerated is nearly as old as the Soviet Union itself. Established by Lenin in 1919, the gulags were used on a massive scale by Stalin. From 1936 to 1953 as many as 15 million people - peasants, dissidents, ethnic minorities - were swept into the camps, many to be literally worked to death. But not until Alexander Solzhenitsyn published The Gulag Archipelago in 1974 did the West realize the extent and ruthlessness of the Soviet prison network. Today experts estimate that more than 2 million people are held in nearly 1,000 camps. Shcharansky believes this number is 5 million.
More than 10,000 may be imprisoned for “political crimes.” The most common political charge is “anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda” - a catchall covering any criticism, from public protest to private letters. Unauthorized religious activity might cost 10 years. One Ukrainian was sentenced to seven years for writing a ballad in the Ukrainian folk style. Another prisoner, punished for writing poetry, died after 12 hungry months in solitary.
Troublemakers may be sent to psychiatric hospitals and given huge doses of mind-altering drugs that cause convulsions, raging temperatures, acute pain and such long-term effects as loss of vision and paralysis. Such a cure for rebellion rarely fails.
Shades of what the communists did to their political problems ....The left mimic the communist more every day
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Unfortunately for this Yale educated dipshit, it’s the 25th Amendment or bust.
GOYABEAN
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E the massive
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Fuck Yale.
Deplorable Me
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Fuck Y'all too!
How much money did Solzhenitzyn make writing what the West wanted to hear?
What was the reason for literary evenings at the U.S. embassy in Moscow?
Did the break up of the Soviet Union orcestrated by the West bring an improvement to people's lives?
How does a country that practiced slavery under 15 of its leaders promotes itself as a guardian of freedom.
We’re going to be forced to kill these people eventually if we don’t work out a mutual split first.