Seekins Havak Bravo, Badrock Southfork and other prs guns talk

[Celt]

So Ive been bitten by the precision bolt gun bug again and am in the market for a 6.5 creedmoor.

Id really like a nice $4000 rifle witha $2000 optic, but thats not happening at this time. Ive been researching rifles and there are some "semi custom" boltguns under 2 grand that intrigue me. First is the Seekins havak bravo, then the Badrock South fork.

HAVAK Bravo

<p>The HAVAK Bravo is Seekins' go-to, run-it-hard, do-it-all rifle.</p> <p>HAVAK Bravo users run the gamut, from our nation's elite SWAT and law enforcement professionals to competition shooters to hunters to those simply plinking cans

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BadRock Precision Rifles South Fork - Firearms for tactical and target use.

BadRock Rifles are built for tactical and target use, the South Fork uses a precision bolt action, set into an aluminum chassis. Call us at 406-897-2776.

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You can find the Seekins for around 1700, and the badrock is right at 2gs. And they seem real nice and most reports have them at about 1/2-3/4 MOA. But then i think about getting something like the Remington PCR Enhanced. Thats the new PCR coming out sometime this spring (although with the plant shut down who kjows when it will come out). Now, the previous gen pcr is a sub moa rifle with some people reporting getting it to shoot 1/2 moa. The standard pcr can be had for 1g, and this new one around 1300 is most likely. Part of me wants the cool semi custom rifle, but part of me wants something teied and true like the rem 700 (even if its not quite as accurate). What are some of your guys thoughts?


Seekins



Rem700 pcr enhanced


Badrock southfork

 

[Vapor]

I can't speak for the rifle, but all the hand guards, rings, etc. from Seekins I have are precise and top notch. I would probably lean that way simply from dealing with their product, but that's the only real reference I can offer.


I like chassis rigs. I have a poors version myself.

 

[Celt]

I was just speaking with another guy that is running the same barreled action that's found in the PCR and he's getting half minute groups. I realize there's other benefits to going with fancier actions such as how smooth they are and other features that they come with. I genuinely don't see myself having the time to actually attend any matches right now and I really wouldn't need any of the fancy features. It's more of just a want.

I also kind of like the bergara premier Ridgeback rifle oh, I see that runs for around 1800.

Premier Series - Bergara USA

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[Jaywmustang]

With a Remington, you will have the full support of aftermarket manufacturers.

I don’t have any experience with seekin rifles or the bergara, i did hold a bergara once.

eurooptics still have their sale going on the Sako trg 22 and 42. But they r over your $2000 budget.

 

[Celt]

With a Remington, you will have the full support of aftermarket manufacturers.

I don’t have any experience with seekin rifles or the bergara, i did hold a bergara once.

eurooptics still have their sale going on the Sako trg 22 and 42. But they r over your $2000 budget.

honestly, if i went up to 2k that would be really over extending myself as I still need to get some good glass that i figure will be around 900 to 1k. in the end, ill probably just stick with the remington to save some $ for now. there are some really nice rifles out there though.

 

[Jaywmustang]

honestly, if i went up to 2k that would be really over extending myself as I still need to get some good glass that i figure will be around 900 to 1k. in the end, ill probably just stick with the remington to save some $ for now. there are some really nice rifles out there though.

Any interest in savage rifles? I have been happy with the savages I have owned.

 

[Jaywmustang]

What optics have you looked at?

 

[Celt]

Any interest in savage rifles? I have been happy with the savages I have owned.

i like the 110 elite precision, and considered it as an option, Im just more of a remington guy (thats why i also like the remington clones). I realize its like a ford vs chevy thing and Im not 100% against it, but a rem700 or clone is my preference.

110 Elite Precision | MDT ACC Chassis | Savage Arms

The 110 Elite Precision offers superior long range accuracy with an adjustable MDT ACC chassis, ARCA rail, and stainless steel receiver. Available in Left Hand.

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[Celt]

What optics have you looked at?

Im leaning towards the Bushnell DMR ii 3.5-21, but i do like the vortex viper pst gen 2, and then the burris xtr ii. my first choice out of this list is the dmr ii. what do you use, and whats your preference?

 

[Jaywmustang]

i like the 110 elite precision, and considered it as an option, Im just more of a remington guy (thats why i also like the remington clones). I realize its like a ford vs chevy thing and Im not 100% against it, but a rem700 or clone is my preference.

110 Elite Precision | MDT ACC Chassis | Savage Arms

The 110 Elite Precision offers superior long range accuracy with an adjustable MDT ACC chassis, ARCA rail, and stainless steel receiver. Available in Left Hand.

www.savagearms.com

I used to be a Remington guy....I will again once their qc standards go up. I would still buy a Remington if I found a good deal. I do like my tikkas right now but they don’t have the aftermarket support like Remington. Are you looking to buy locally or online?

 

[Jaywmustang]

Im leaning towards the Bushnell DMR ii 3.5-21, but i do like the vortex viper pst gen 2, and then the burris xtr ii. my first choice out of this list is the dmr ii. what do you use, and whats your preference?

I have a bushnell lrts ii, nightforce svh, nx8, Steiner p4xi, pst viper gen 1, vortex razor gen 2, athlon ares btr and some other lower end stuff. I bought my wife a burris xtr ii in the fall. I haven’t mounted it yet, It’s a sweet scope. I use my nightforce svh the most cause it on my hunting rifle. Past couple of years has been tough for me to get out shooting. I’m pretty sure you are no where near me but if u r ever in the Oswego area, I’ll let u look through them.

The burris might be the best bang for the buck. The gen 3 are out.

 

[Jaywmustang]

Im leaning towards the Bushnell DMR ii 3.5-21, but i do like the vortex viper pst gen 2, and then the burris xtr ii. my first choice out of this list is the dmr ii. what do you use, and whats your preference?

What are you finding for prices for the dmr? Camera land has a open box for $900

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[Celt]

What are you finding for prices for the dmr? Camera land has a open box for $900

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thats exactly why i said 900, and the dmr is the first choice so far. that is likely how i will go, but i want to get the rifle first.

 

[Celt]

I used to be a Remington guy....I will again once their qc standards go up. I would still buy a Remington if I found a good deal. I do like my tikkas right now but they don’t have the aftermarket support like Remington. Are you looking to buy locally or online?

i hear you on that. my r700 aac-sd in 308 shoots sub moa, and its not a 5r barrel. I watched a youtube vid from 2020 shotshow and the guy in the vid said that rem was redoing some of their tooling that would negate the need to have a factory action blueprinted. Im not sure if that is 100% accurate, but thats what he said. the gen II 5r guns appear to be good shooters.


i also like the tikka's, especially the t3x tac a1, but as you mentioned the aftermarket support isnt as strong as it is for rem700 style receivers.

 

[Jaywmustang]

i hear you on that. my r700 aac-sd in 308 shoots sub moa, and its not a 5r barrel. I watched a youtube vid from 2020 shotshow and the guy in the vid said that rem was redoing some of their tooling that would negate the need to have a factory action blueprinted. Im not sure if that is 100% accurate, but thats what he said. the gen II 5r guns appear to be good shooters.


i also like the tikka's, especially the t3x tac a1, but as you mentioned the aftermarket support isnt as strong as it is for rem700 style receivers.

I have a couple Remington sps varmint and they have all shot great. My biggest gripe with Remington is there coating. Get old school n them before they rust.

Do you like that particular chassis or do you just you want a chassis?

 

[Jaywmustang]

just find a chassis

Remington 700 SPS Barreled Action 6.5 Creedmoor 22" 86503

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[Celt]

I have a couple Remington sps varmint and they have all shot great. My biggest gripe with Remington is there coating. Get old school n them before they rust.

Do you like that particular chassis or do you just you want a chassis?

i think the pcr chassis is ok. there are other chassis' i prefer but i am really trying to not get too crazy with the budget. i could find a rem700 gen 2 5r rifle for around 1k, and i could put it in a chassis of my choice for probably around 800, but then its still just a factory rem700 in a nice chassis.

so since its the gen 2 5r (and supposedly with better manufacturing) and its already in a chassis thats kind of a win win for me. i do prefer a chassis over a stock though. my 308 sits in an hs precision stock and it is not mag fed (which sucks), so a mag fed rifle is a must.

 

[Celt]

just find a chassis

Remington 700 SPS Barreled Action 6.5 Creedmoor 22" 86503

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thats actually a good price, but i was looking for the 5r barrel to start with. i wonder how good that shoots.

 

[Jaywmustang]

thats actually a good price, but i was looking for the 5r barrel to start with. i wonder how good that shoots.

My 22-250 sps varmint shot surprising great. I haven’t looked into them in a while but I have read good and bad years ago. Most complaints were the cheap plastic stocks but you don’t have to worry about that. I’d do some research on them if you are interested.

If you were looking a month or so ago, eurooptics had a few cadex chassis for $600 bucks. It was a steal.......I looked and they don’t have them anymore.

 

[Celt]

My 22-250 sps varmint shot surprising great. I haven’t looked into them in a while but I have read good and bad years ago. Most complaints were the cheap plastic stocks but you don’t have to worry about that. I’d do some research on them if you are interested.

If you were looking a month or so ago, eurooptics had a few cadex chassis for $600 bucks. It was a steal.......I looked and they don’t have them anymore.

thats insanely cheap for the cadex. Ive got some time yet as Im looking to sell my 9mm first (ideally), and i havent even checked to see if there are any working ffl's in my area now.

 

[Celt]

@Podmonkey , i know you were looking into a new rifle too a while back.. where are you at on this lately?

 

[MilesTeg]

Take you pick from this line up.

Premier Series - Bergara USA

Explore the Bergara Premier series offerings. Hand built by craftsman, Premier rifles use the highest quality components to offer a rifle of near custom performance at an affordable price.

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[Celt]

Take you pick from this line up.

Premier Series - Bergara USA

Explore the Bergara Premier series offerings. Hand built by craftsman, Premier rifles use the highest quality components to offer a rifle of near custom performance at an affordable price.

www.bergara.online

i like the bergara premier ridgeline, and its something id consider. i am leaning towards the pcr due to cost, but getting a better quality rifle is tempting. they are a rem 700 footprint so most accessories work with them. the best price i saw on the ridgeline is around 1800.

 

[Jaywmustang]

Look for sale. Whittaker had that bergara on a flash sale not too long ago, stupid cheap. I almost picked one up but they were gone in a flash.

 

[MilesTeg]

i like the bergara premier ridgeline, and its something id consider. i am leaning towards the pcr due to cost, but getting a better quality rifle is tempting. they are a rem 700 footprint so most accessories work with them. the best price i saw on the ridgeline is around 1800.

Ya I never check pricing, because I'm no where close to buying one myself.

 

[Jaywmustang]

Ya I never check pricing, because I'm no where close to buying one myself.

If I find a once in a life time deal, I’ll find a way

 

[Jaywmustang]

Almost bought this a month ago. I hesitated cause I already have 2 6.5 cm. Kinda glad I missed it lol

 

[Jaywmustang]

So is there things you want on your rifle? Barrel length? Barrel contour? Color? I like rifle shopping even if it’s not for me

 

[Jaywmustang]

do you have a gander near by? My gander will order the rifle and save you shipping cost. I had to order and pay in person at the store.

Howa Australian Precision Chassis Rifle, .308 Win., Black

The Howa Chassis Rifle combines the legendary accuracy of the Howa 1500 heavy barreled action with a precision-engineered aluminum chassis system resulting in a rifle that outperforms all other factory long-range rifles.

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[Celt]

So is there things you want on your rifle? Barrel length? Barrel contour? Color? I like rifle shopping even if it’s not for me

thats cool man, yeah a few of my basics are mag fed, 20-24" heavy barrel (the bergara premier ridgeback is nice but it has a medium palma, and id prefer something heavier), chassis preferred. no sporter barrels, and really the heavier the barrel the better as I like to shoot long strings of fire. fluted barrels are a plus, and fluted bolts even more so. I can't stand factory remington, or savage bolt knobs.

what i like about the new pcr is the fluted barrel, it has a chassis, its mag fed, and it has a nicer bolt knob than the factory remington.

even this is a nice rifle

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but i prefer a chassis.

not a fan of the howa rifles.. i really prefer a rem 700 or a rem 700 clone of some sort.