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According to the US secret service a car is both a defensive and offensive weapon.
So when we are driving around we are all part of a loaded weapon.
So when we are driving around we are all part of a loaded weapon.
He started a thread to discuss whether a shockwave would be exempt from the rules because it's not a shotgun.It's ok.
He'll win the "mute court" case on the side of the roadway with the trooper.
Or in actual court. You know, several months (or years) and several tens of thousands of dollars later.
And who'll be laughing then?!
Dude if you think I’m going to out a friend to appease you your mistaken. I respect friendships much more than internet legal gurus. Again do as you wish I truthfully don’t give a rats ass if you get jammed up but you seem to have a real need to feel your right.Anyone can make baseless claims about "someone" that heard that "something" happened to another person. Me, I go by what is written in the text of law. Without documentation you are trying to challenge a law on the books with what you claim you heard from someone else. That holds zero water. In fact, it is laughable. Nobody is going to take your word of what you heard over what is in black and white and written into the NY state law. You are dismissed!
Only if you ate a gas station burrito and skipped the last rest areaAccording to the US secret service a car is both a defensive and offensive weapon.
So when we are driving around we are all part of a loaded weapon.
New information came to light. Article 17 which says Article 11 shall not be enforced except for wildlife purposes. Try to keep up.He started a thread to discuss whether a shockwave would be exempt from the rules because it's not a shotgun.
Then proceeded to spend the whole thread arguing that it doesn't matter if it does or not because he isn't hunting.
The personal identifying information could be redacted. Nobody is buying such a lame excuse. No proof was provided to back up your claim, because it doesn't exist. What does exist however is Article 17 of DEC law, which I cited and linked to, repeatedly. Have a good day.Dude if you think I’m going to out a friend to appease you your mistaken. I respect friendships much more than internet legal gurus. Again do as you wish I truthfully don’t give a rats ass if you get jammed up but you seem to have a real need to feel your right.
Na he will dazzle them with his legal genius on the roadside and drive away pain freeNYSP to Dispatch .. Dispatch .. I have a subject here and will need DEC for clarification .. 10-4 .. DEC in Route ..
NYSP / DEC convo .. traveling with a loaded gun .. after 20 mins of back in and forth .. DEC.. I think you maybe hunting Pigeons your under arrest ..
now your going to pay $$$ to find out who's Right or Wrong .. that is there game plan
just saying
Trying to make sense of NY gun laws logically is an exercise in futility.The angle I wanted to explore here was the term "firearm" in penal law is a pistol or revolver and that says it can be loaded in your car. The shockwave is not a shotgun or rifle so I thought there might be an opening there to carry in vehicle loaded. I can see now that the DEC law uses "firearm" to mean any and all guns so it looks like it's a no go. I just needed help making that all make sense to me.
Na he will dazzle them with his legal genius on the roadside and drive away pain free
I think we can all agree on thatTrying to make sense of NY gun laws logically is an exercise in futility.
And you call me a child! BTW I have NEVER said anything regarding F&G laws.Your argument is childish. Why would I track down a cop and show them a gun? On what planet do you think that is a good thing to do? I do know however, as per the actual written law, that if I were stopped I would be covered as the loaded firearm law, being in Article 11 is not to be enforced and "deemed to be effective for the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law only." The argument cannot be broken. You can repeat it as many times as you wish. The written law text will not change no matter how many times you stomp your feet.
(Sheep in wolves clothing around here)
FUAC!!!
2A ALL THE WAY!!!!!
I WILL NOT COMPLY!!!!
ANY LAW IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!
UNSAFE ACT!!!!!!
*Hunting regulation comes around which says it is enforced for wildlife and fishing purposes only*
YOU BETTER NOT!!!!!
IT'S ILLEGAL!!!!!
YOU'LL LOSE YOUR GUNS!!!
I DARE YOU!!!!
TAPE IT!!!!!!
Yawn. Just another fake internet tough guy. Go hide under your bed, and put on clean underwear, I think you shit yourself.
Ignorance is refusing to accept that Conservation Law 71-0905 exists.And you call me a child! BTW I have NEVER said anything regarding F&G laws.
I'm sorry to point that your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance.
Once again (please read carefully) I NEVER SAID ANYTHING about any conservation law!Ignorance is refusing to accept that Conservation Law 71-0905 exists.
If you haven't been following along, new information has come to light which spells out the only answer in black and white. See 71-0905. The typical fear mongering doesn't work on me. The whole "you'll go broke!!" doesn't fly. The law, and the enforcement thereof is in plain English. Thank you.Once again (please read carefully) I NEVER SAID ANYTHING about any conservation law!
Constitutionally I believe that if you can carry whatever you want. But I'm not a cop or a judge. You asked for thoughts/advice/opinions yet you seem to just want to argue so go ahead do it and test the systems. I'm sure that you will end up (if cought) go broke defending yourself in court and the ironic thing is YOU thru tax money will pay for your own prosecution!
Oh WTF does a lawyer know about the law? It’s already been settled.. the end, game over as stated aboveBetter let this Criminal Defense Attorney know of this new information that has come to light!! LOL!!!
Many restrictions placed on transporting firearms, particularly handguns
The most general firearms rule applicable to vehicle transport in New York State is that it is illegal to transport any type of gun in a car if the gun is loaded unless you possess a valid New York Permit to Carry.
HA HA HAThe law, and the enforcement thereof is in plain English. Thank you.
Good news. I do. lol. These advertisements on shady law form web pages are far from accurate. I’ve read some that say it is lawful to possess a pistol in your home without a permit. They are worthless and do not reflect actual written law, unlike the exact cited law I posted.Better let this Criminal Defense Attorney know of this new information that has come to light!! LOL!!!
Many restrictions placed on transporting firearms, particularly handguns
The most general firearms rule applicable to vehicle transport in New York State is that it is illegal to transport any type of gun in a car if the gun is loaded unless you possess a valid New York Permit to Carry.
Already debunked. Has nothing to do with this situation. They pointed guns at complaints. Might as well compare this to spaghetti. It’s just as absurd. Please read the written law. It’s been cited and posted. Read it or don’t. It still stands.HA HA HA
OMG, I haven't laughed so hard in a while.
Were you able to type that with a straight face ?
Better tell this couple that they don't have to worry because the law is clear LOL.
Police seize gun at home of St. Louis couple who pointed weapons at protesters
Police said they were executing a search warrant when they seized a semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle.www.cbsnews.com
A lawyers shady advertising vs actual written law text. Yea your right. The advertisement overrules the law. Good grief.Oh WTF does a lawyer know about the law? It’s already been settled.. the end, game over as stated above
The hunting regulation makes no mention of pistols. Also it does not supersede the penal law in any way.can i carry my replica bb pistol open carry or concealed carry or both ? im not hunting .. ..
The hunting regulation makes no mention of pistols. Also it does not supersede the penal law in any way.
Read article 71. I’ve cited it. It applies only to hunting and fishing purposes, by definition.the hunting regs do mention using BB guns to hunt ..
Good news. I do. lol. These advertisements on shady law form web pages are far from accurate. I’ve read some that say it is lawful to possess a pistol in your home without a permit. They are worthless and do not reflect actual written law, unlike the exact cited law I posted.
He wants to test his hypothesis real time, just let him.NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
www.nysenate.gov
2. No crossbow or firearm except a pistol or revolver shall be carried or possessed in or on a motor vehicle unless it is uncocked, for a crossbow or unloaded, for a firearm in both the chamber and the magazine, except that a loaded firearm which may be legally used for taking migratory game birds may be carried or possessed in a motor boat while hunting migratory game birds, and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight, spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he or she is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind except a pistol or revolver, unless such longbow or crossbow is unstrung or such firearm or crossbow is taken down or securely fastened in a case or locked in the trunk of the vehicle. For purposes of this subdivision, motor vehicle shall mean every vehicle or other device operated by any power other than muscle power, and which shall include but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, tractors, trailers and motorboats, snowmobiles and snowtravelers, whether operated on or off public highways. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subdivision, the department may issue a permit to any person who is non-ambulatory, except with the use of a mechanized aid, to possess a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle as defined in this section, subject to such restrictions as the department may deem necessary in the interest of public safety. Nothing in this section permits the possession of a pistol or a revolver contrary to the penal law.
Well they do have an exemption for duck hunting, But seemed to have forgotten the one about driving around in nice clothes and a fancy car that you must not be hunting!
71-0905. Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law and other laws not
affected.
1. No provision or language of the Fish and Wildlife Law shall be
construed as amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision
of the Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law or other law, except to the
extent that such provision or language is expressly stated to be
applicable notwithstanding such law, or notwithstanding any other law.
Except to such extent, any provisions of the Fish and Wildlife Law
inconsistent with the provisions of any other law shall be deemed to be
effective for the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law only.
The Law above does no amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision of the penal law,Criminal Procedure Law or other law! It is still a NYS Law!!