meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
According to the US secret service a car is both a defensive and offensive weapon.
So when we are driving around we are all part of a loaded weapon.
So when we are driving around we are all part of a loaded weapon.
Loaded "Weapon" in Vehicle?
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
He started a thread to discuss whether a shockwave would be exempt from the rules because it's not a shotgun.It's ok.
He'll win the "mute court" case on the side of the roadway with the trooper.
Or in actual court. You know, several months (or years) and several tens of thousands of dollars later.
And who'll be laughing then?!
Then proceeded to spend the whole thread arguing that it doesn't matter if it does or not because he isn't hunting.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Dude if you think I’m going to out a friend to appease you your mistaken. I respect friendships much more than internet legal gurus. Again do as you wish I truthfully don’t give a rats ass if you get jammed up but you seem to have a real need to feel your right.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Only if you ate a gas station burrito and skipped the last rest area
New information came to light. Article 17 which says Article 11 shall not be enforced except for wildlife purposes. Try to keep up.
The personal identifying information could be redacted. Nobody is buying such a lame excuse. No proof was provided to back up your claim, because it doesn't exist. What does exist however is Article 17 of DEC law, which I cited and linked to, repeatedly. Have a good day.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
NYSP to Dispatch .. Dispatch .. I have a subject here and will need DEC for clarification .. 10-4 .. DEC in Route ..
NYSP / DEC convo .. traveling with a loaded gun .. after 20 mins of back in and forth .. DEC.. I think you maybe hunting Pigeons your under arrest ..
now your going to pay $$$ to find out who's Right or Wrong .. that is there game plan
just saying
NYSP / DEC convo .. traveling with a loaded gun .. after 20 mins of back in and forth .. DEC.. I think you maybe hunting Pigeons your under arrest ..
now your going to pay $$$ to find out who's Right or Wrong .. that is there game plan
just saying
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Na he will dazzle them with his legal genius on the roadside and drive away pain free
Trying to make sense of NY gun laws logically is an exercise in futility.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
May very well.
I've worked 20+ years on a billable hour model. I know what my time is worth.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
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I think we can all agree on that
repete
.338 Win Mag
And you call me a child! BTW I have NEVER said anything regarding F&G laws.
I'm sorry to point that your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance.
Ignorance is refusing to accept that Conservation Law 71-0905 exists.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
I see my point about the Special Olympics went right over someone's head...
repete
.338 Win Mag
Once again (please read carefully) I NEVER SAID ANYTHING about any conservation law!
Constitutionally I believe that if you can carry whatever you want. But I'm not a cop or a judge. You asked for thoughts/advice/opinions yet you seem to just want to argue so go ahead do it and test the systems. I'm sure that you will end up (if cought) go broke defending yourself in court and the ironic thing is YOU thru tax money will pay for your own prosecution!
If you haven't been following along, new information has come to light which spells out the only answer in black and white. See 71-0905. The typical fear mongering doesn't work on me. The whole "you'll go broke!!" doesn't fly. The law, and the enforcement thereof is in plain English. Thank you.
Better let this Criminal Defense Attorney know of this new information that has come to light!! LOL!!!
Many restrictions placed on transporting firearms, particularly handguns
The most general firearms rule applicable to vehicle transport in New York State is that it is illegal to transport any type of gun in a car if the gun is loaded unless you possess a valid New York Permit to Carry.
Guns found in your car? Know the applicable New York law.
www.hudsonvalleycriminallaw.com
Many restrictions placed on transporting firearms, particularly handguns
The most general firearms rule applicable to vehicle transport in New York State is that it is illegal to transport any type of gun in a car if the gun is loaded unless you possess a valid New York Permit to Carry.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Oh WTF does a lawyer know about the law? It’s already been settled.. the end, game over as stated above
spat
.700 Nitro Express
HA HA HA
OMG, I haven't laughed so hard in a while.
Were you able to type that with a straight face ?
Better tell this couple that they don't have to worry because the law is clear LOL.
Police seize gun at home of St. Louis couple who pointed weapons at protesters
Police said they were executing a search warrant when they seized a semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle.
www.cbsnews.com
Good news. I do. lol. These advertisements on shady law form web pages are far from accurate. I’ve read some that say it is lawful to possess a pistol in your home without a permit. They are worthless and do not reflect actual written law, unlike the exact cited law I posted.
Already debunked. Has nothing to do with this situation. They pointed guns at complaints. Might as well compare this to spaghetti. It’s just as absurd. Please read the written law. It’s been cited and posted. Read it or don’t. It still stands.HA HA HA
OMG, I haven't laughed so hard in a while.
Were you able to type that with a straight face ?
Better tell this couple that they don't have to worry because the law is clear LOL.
Police seize gun at home of St. Louis couple who pointed weapons at protesters
Police said they were executing a search warrant when they seized a semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle.
A lawyers shady advertising vs actual written law text. Yea your right. The advertisement overrules the law. Good grief.Oh WTF does a lawyer know about the law? It’s already been settled.. the end, game over as stated above
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
yeah i can get a 44cal colt BP for the house .. but i cant fkin load it with out a fkin PP ..
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
can i carry my replica bb pistol open carry or concealed carry or both ? im not hunting .. ..
The hunting regulation makes no mention of pistols. Also it does not supersede the penal law in any way.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
the hunting regs do mention using BB guns to hunt ..
Read article 71. I’ve cited it. It applies only to hunting and fishing purposes, by definition.
Yeah that Web page was really shady! Telling you want not to do so you wouldn't need a Lawyer!
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
2. No crossbow or firearm except a pistol or revolver shall be carried or possessed in or on a motor vehicle unless it is uncocked, for a crossbow or unloaded, for a firearm in both the chamber and the magazine, except that a loaded firearm which may be legally used for taking migratory game birds may be carried or possessed in a motor boat while hunting migratory game birds, and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight, spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he or she is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind except a pistol or revolver, unless such longbow or crossbow is unstrung or such firearm or crossbow is taken down or securely fastened in a case or locked in the trunk of the vehicle. For purposes of this subdivision, motor vehicle shall mean every vehicle or other device operated by any power other than muscle power, and which shall include but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, tractors, trailers and motorboats, snowmobiles and snowtravelers, whether operated on or off public highways. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subdivision, the department may issue a permit to any person who is non-ambulatory, except with the use of a mechanized aid, to possess a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle as defined in this section, subject to such restrictions as the department may deem necessary in the interest of public safety. Nothing in this section permits the possession of a pistol or a revolver contrary to the penal law.
Well they do have an exemption for duck hunting, But seemed to have forgotten the one about driving around in nice clothes and a fancy car that you must not be hunting!
71-0905. Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law and other laws not
affected.
1. No provision or language of the Fish and Wildlife Law shall be
construed as amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision
of the Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law or other law, except to the
extent that such provision or language is expressly stated to be
applicable notwithstanding such law, or notwithstanding any other law.
Except to such extent, any provisions of the Fish and Wildlife Law
inconsistent with the provisions of any other law shall be deemed to be
effective for the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law only.
The Law above does no amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision of the penal law,Criminal Procedure Law or other law! It is still a NYS Law!!
pjzwtl
.308 Win
He wants to test his hypothesis real time, just let him.NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
www.nysenate.gov
2. No crossbow or firearm except a pistol or revolver shall be carried or possessed in or on a motor vehicle unless it is uncocked, for a crossbow or unloaded, for a firearm in both the chamber and the magazine, except that a loaded firearm which may be legally used for taking migratory game birds may be carried or possessed in a motor boat while hunting migratory game birds, and no person except a law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties shall, while in or on a motor vehicle, use a jacklight, spotlight or other artificial light upon lands inhabited by deer if he or she is in possession or is accompanied by a person who is in possession, at the time of such use, of a longbow, crossbow or a firearm of any kind except a pistol or revolver, unless such longbow or crossbow is unstrung or such firearm or crossbow is taken down or securely fastened in a case or locked in the trunk of the vehicle. For purposes of this subdivision, motor vehicle shall mean every vehicle or other device operated by any power other than muscle power, and which shall include but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, tractors, trailers and motorboats, snowmobiles and snowtravelers, whether operated on or off public highways. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subdivision, the department may issue a permit to any person who is non-ambulatory, except with the use of a mechanized aid, to possess a loaded firearm in or on a motor vehicle as defined in this section, subject to such restrictions as the department may deem necessary in the interest of public safety. Nothing in this section permits the possession of a pistol or a revolver contrary to the penal law.
Well they do have an exemption for duck hunting, But seemed to have forgotten the one about driving around in nice clothes and a fancy car that you must not be hunting!
71-0905. Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law and other laws not
affected.
1. No provision or language of the Fish and Wildlife Law shall be
construed as amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision
of the Penal Law, Criminal Procedure Law or other law, except to the
extent that such provision or language is expressly stated to be
applicable notwithstanding such law, or notwithstanding any other law.
Except to such extent, any provisions of the Fish and Wildlife Law
inconsistent with the provisions of any other law shall be deemed to be
effective for the purposes of the Fish and Wildlife Law only.
The Law above does no amending, repealing, superseding or limiting any provision of the penal law,Criminal Procedure Law or other law! It is still a NYS Law!!