100% agree. It looks absolutely terrible
Black Collar Arms "Pork Sword"
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100% agree. It looks absolutely terrible
Xae289
.223 Rem
That turd is what inspired me to want to build a bolt-action hunting pistol. (I figured I could put together a better one than Remington).
This discussion does add an Encore with a pistol brace into the running for my consideration though. Swapping barrels and paying less are very attractive features. Also, I honestly don't practice running the bolt on the bolt-action I already have, so it's not much of a speed advantage. With either one, if I need a follow-up shot, I'm probably not getting it before the animal is out of sight.
Its funny me and a buddy were just talking about encores and similar and we realized we don't know if anyone makes braces for them and if not why?
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Come to think of it, I've never seen any kind of brace for Encore/Contender pistols, and I've looked at a LOT of custom stuff for those guns.
Xae289
.223 Rem
I only did a brief search after reading this, but there's at least one option. It changes the grip to one that's got a hole in the back and is threaded to accept an AR buffer tube. From there you'd be able to use any AR pistol brace or buttstock if you're inclined to throw a 16"+ barrel on it.
Right which is kinda weird tbh
Xae289
.223 Rem
Looks like there are also replacement grips that put a picatinny rail section on the butt so you can install folding stocks.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
After @Xae289 mentioned seeing something similar I just found this...
TC Encore M4 Buttstock Adaptor Mil Spec
this t/c encore grip adapts most ar15/m4 buttstocks to fit the thompson center encore receiver. this item is the adaptor only and does not include an m4 buttstock. thompson center,encore,m4,stock,buttstock,m4 stock,adaptor,kit,grip,m4 grip,choate, tc encore m-4 pistol grip,317-090314,ar15...
www.eabco.net
Xae289
.223 Rem
Yup, that's the one.After @Xae289 mentioned seeing something similar I just found this...
TC Encore M4 Buttstock Adaptor Mil Spec
this t/c encore grip adapts most ar15/m4 buttstocks to fit the thompson center encore receiver. this item is the adaptor only and does not include an m4 buttstock. thompson center,encore,m4,stock,buttstock,m4 stock,adaptor,kit,grip,m4 grip,choate, tc encore m-4 pistol grip,317-090314,ar15...
This is the other: T/C G1 Contender (or SSK50) Grip with -1913 Picatinny Interface
This doesn't look so bad tbh
Xae289
.223 Rem
I was pretty excited about the Pork Sword, but FrankenCub and repete introducing the Thompsons into the discussion really have me leaning that way. Awesome versatility (.22lr to .45-70; handgun to rifle). Way cheaper. They've got the reputation for crazy good accuracy and nice triggers. Huge upsides versus the only downside being a marginally slower second shot compared with a bolt action.
Oh I deff wouldn't say don't go with either of those (not for me personally) but really hard to argue against one for hunting (especially deer)
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
As a long time pistol hunter my preferred option is the Encore, because the upsides already posted. They are quite easy to get use to reloads for follow up shots but if you do your part you won't need a second shot. I've taken deer with .308, .300 Whisper, 209x.50 mag ML, and a couple other oddball caliber barrels that I had early on. There are so many high quality accessories for them such as exotic furniture to any caliber barrel you could think of.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy with a bolt pistol but it needs to be left hand bolt for hunting.
Another thing I much prefer the Encore/Contender over a bolt or rotating breech is a lower barrel center. Bolt guns are all above your hand a lot compared to the TC guns which translates into some crazy muzzle flip with heavier calibers. Not so noticeable with the TCs. Even my 209x.50 pushing 100g wasn't bad. That would hurt with a high barrel lol.
My cousin had a IMI Lone Eagle, might have been 30-06. You wanted to have a damn good hold on that thing.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be happy with a bolt pistol but it needs to be left hand bolt for hunting.
Another thing I much prefer the Encore/Contender over a bolt or rotating breech is a lower barrel center. Bolt guns are all above your hand a lot compared to the TC guns which translates into some crazy muzzle flip with heavier calibers. Not so noticeable with the TCs. Even my 209x.50 pushing 100g wasn't bad. That would hurt with a high barrel lol.
My cousin had a IMI Lone Eagle, might have been 30-06. You wanted to have a damn good hold on that thing.
@FrankenCub well because I have no problem correcting myself or making sure to update any information I have put out to make sure it is as accurate and factual as possible..
ATF is once again about to go after arm braces. And have told the company "Q" that their badger pistol is now classified as a SBR
And it sounds like (my buddy just got the email) DD has recieved a similar/same letter from the ATF about their PDW
ATF is once again about to go after arm braces. And have told the company "Q" that their badger pistol is now classified as a SBR
And it sounds like (my buddy just got the email) DD has recieved a similar/same letter from the ATF about their PDW
Hopefully the welds on that can don't explode hahahah
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
More bullshit, can't leave well enough alone. Wonder which liberal Douchebag is pushing ATF to reconsider this yet again. This is why I refuse to get involved with a pistol brace. If ATF would stick to their guns and state braces are good to go and will remain so it might be different. SBR Yada Yada Yada...... overfuckinregulation!
Its probably from the GOP Senator who wrote them a letter back in June
Gaetz Calls on ATF to Cease Plans Restricting Arm Brace Usage
Congressman Matt Gaetz announced today on his podcast the ATF is crafting secret rules restricting the possession of certain pistol braces by American citizens, and that he has sent them a letter demanding they stop.
gaetz.house.gov
But thats my speculation
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I think you misread that article, looks like he's trying to get the ATF to stop limiting braces.
No I know exactly what he was doing. He even recently wrote them again...
Sounds like the oh people are bothering us about this ok let's put it back on our radar..
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Sounds like the law that congress passed is unclear and ambiguous them. And therefore invalid.
Should be legal to do whatever you want until congress fixes it then.
Should be, but isn't.
Just like the first time they changed their mind from its legal to its not.
Even with all the letters and resources saying the ARF approved arm braces and said shouldering them is legal countless people where calling their offices and writing them letters asking if it was legal to a brace instead of a $200 tax stamp sbr
Even with all the letters and resources saying the ARF approved arm braces and said shouldering them is legal countless people where calling their offices and writing them letters asking if it was legal to a brace instead of a $200 tax stamp sbr
That’s the Erector 9. Those aren’t welded actually. Completely modular suppressor. You can unscrew each of the baffles to change it’s length.
Just trying a cheap jab at Q's bad welding skills
Wasn’t sure if you knew or not. Had to make sure though. lol
Also to make a correction. Daniel Defense did NOT receive any letter about their pistols
Yuup
I didnt see the whole part
ATF arbitrarily reclassified some pistols as SBR
Looks like back in August (the 3rd) the company Q received a cease and desist letter from the ATF on the sales of their "Honey Badger" pistols (also named was their sugar weasel and fix pistols) The ATF arbitrarily reclassified them as SBR fun the previous "pistol" clarification
nygunforum.com