Toecutter
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Armed bounty hunters enter home in Buffalo with police and no warrant
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Nope, but you said that you knew his address was in Buffalo. I showed what his legal address was and is.
garyv350
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Have you figured out yet your wasting your time. This guy knows all from google and a day class. But yet wants everyone else to site case law to support their statements.
It’s not even remotely feasible for this guy to have a discussion, disagreement, sharing of opinions , etc without being demeaning, condescending, name calling, etc. It’s his way or it’s wrong. Takes a security guard class and thinks he’s more versed on it than some of our ACTUAL LEO’s here. Pretty fucking comical.
Me whos on half the peoples in this threads ignore list but still loving life and watching this thread.... love watching clowns expose themselves at being nothing but clowns
Even if this cat put down his brothers address, still gives no right for the BH's to enter. This is law, not opinion!! We are really entering into what I really know.
A day class. Omg I wish. I was a zombie for those weeks I had to go to school on top of working. It really cut into my drinking time too.
I enjoy watching as well but sometimes I have Tourette’s
You have been a good boy lately..... candy for you! {grin}
Lmao, well there hasn't been anything fun to argue about lately, no one wants to talk about gun stuff, and there is no gun stuff lmao
Hahahaha I thought "grin" said "gin" as in that was my candy and I got excited, took the night off may have a martini with dinner now
spat
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And when they *do* cite counter examples he just ignores them
Not sure how his conversation with a lawyer about a completely different situation trumps the "here's a bunch of cases where that didn't happen", but that's where we are.
I feel a discussion about "droplets" coming on.
Robin
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A guy here that characterized himself to be my father, said the Lord isn't here. He's not my father, he's wrong about the Lord, and though he thinks he knows what is in other peoples minds, he's wrong about that too.
Strange brew.
Robin
Strange brew.
Robin
Nope but the facts support it. You have to prove they were wrong. Not other way around. Show ur evidence.
What evidence are you talking about? Did you see something, a different story than the rest of us?
I have read six versions of this story and watched three different videos, I do not see these facts?
Facts thuan there were there. All of them. Even called police ahead for assist. U charge they conspired with Pd to commit a crime? Wow
I never said anything about anything being conspired. Never said the Buffalo Police committed a crime. Again, you have shown no evidence of these "facts" you push forth.
spat
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And here's the proof this argument has gone completely off the rails.
Shifting the burden of proof.
You claimed you were "sure" this was the guys legal residence. Several people asked you what makes you think so, but you have no answers.
Then you claim we must all accept that as a fact until we can prove otherwise.
spat
.950 JDJ
Nobody has suggested these guys *knowingly* committed a crime.
They could very well have been as mistaken about their authority as you are.
The claim that this entire discussion is based on has *nothing* do do with whether the BHs were legally authorized to do what they did .
The discussion is about whether the homeowner would have been justified in employing deadly force to stop then.
You have provided no coherent argument why he wouldn't have been fully justified.
Then your take falls apart. They went there because it was lawful. They called pd also because they knew so. Otherwise the opposite must be true. They must have conspired to commit a crime with countless BPD members. They were called and participated. Which version is more reasonable to believe?
Celt
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Obviously I triggered you with my comment about hoping you don't become a cop. It really wasn't meant to be a dig at you man, but the things you are saying make you seem inherently biased against citizens and blindly supportive of anybody with a badge and a gun. Perhaps that statement was a little harsh, but it is my genuine opinion based on the things I'm reading from you. And that doesn't mean we won't agree on other topics and I can even like some of your posts that I agree with, but this is a different topic and one that we won't see eye-to-eye on.
My question for you is why do you assume these innocent citizens are bad guys? That is your default assumption and that is where I see a problem.
Now, on to some of your other points you say this was listed as his home, what makes you say that? Do you have some inside information? I see that the offender's home address is listed as somewhere in Pennsylvania so it's not likely this was listed as his primary address. These guys were probably just fishing. But you state your assumption as fact.
And who said these bounty hunters were conspiring to commit a crime? That's nothing but hyperbole to try to support your baseless position. These guys could very well be ignorant of the laws in New York, and who's to say these guys are worthy of being bounty hunters. We don't know them any more than we know the citizens they terrorized.
I get that you are debating against multiple people in this thread as I don't see anybody else holding the same position as you do so you probably feel outnumbered and defensive. I was home and bored today so I got to spend more time on this topic than I normally would but my intent was not to insult you, I was merely trying to provoke some thought because you're coming off as a younger guy with less life experience.
Nothing you just typed makes any sense. It is as if you have no clue what you are talking about.
Security guard school is failing you and your argument.
Again, you accused me of saying things that I never said and then you come back with this.
So, I have shown, multiple times that what these two BH's did was not at all lawful, twice. You want to continue this failed argument, by all means, move forward.
You show that you have absolutely no idea the law in NY State in regards to the limitations of these Bond Hunters. None at all.
And, not to mention, the Police, by their own spoken words, had no idea at all who the two Bounty Hunters were, no clue who they worked for, no idea why they were there. Their words caught on video.
Yet they assisted.
I saw them standing there. Assisted? Not so much. This should in fact be reviewed by the Police department. One Captian on scene says what the officers did and did not do was completely wrong and incorrect. Is that Captain mistaken?
He's 35 at a minimum, has already stated in past post he's to old to become a police officer in NY
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Perhaps an only child as well?
I am trying to talk gun stuff.... and ignore this stuff, but I keep getting sucked back in. I like that what did we get today thread. We need to work on making more gun threads!
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