1/20/20 Virginia 2nd Amendment Rally discussion (merged thread)

[Marine Cpl]

Only one entrance point. All groups must enter though one point which will be narrowed to allow police to check people for weapons , so thousands of people must funnel through this choke point

Wait? Who’s checking for weapons? I thought the police...

Oh. Never mind.

 

[GOPerfect]

Only one entrance point. All groups must enter though one point which will be narrowed to allow police to check people for weapons , so thousands of people must funnel through this choke point

I cannot imagine the Police being able to stop everyone from coming in from all sides. I kind of wish I could be there just to see all of the people getting in and out.

 

[holdover]

They put up a fence perimeter around the whole area in blue., Those fences come apart in sections easily. I don't know if the people will take them down or not. its going to be a nightmare for the police if they do.

 

[holdover]

I expected several points of entry So different groups could enter without harassment or trouble. This looks like its intentionally set up to make trouble

 

[holdover]

Wait? Who’s checking for weapons? I thought the police...

Oh. Never mind.

????

 

[Acer-m14]

its going to be really big shit storm ... i haven't seen one mention of where the portajohns are .. LOL ..

 

[meketrefe]

Everyone in the rally should wear a suit and black tie and walk silently in perfect formation. Just like the people did during the civil rights movement.
All counties need to come together and pass resolutions to further shield themselves from these bully cities out of control. Possibly start the motions to request independent elections and the process of forming a new temporsry goverment and court system as allowed by the republic.
Follow the legal channels. Perhaps join west virginia.

 

[Marine Cpl]

????

I thought the police weren’t going to enforce gun laws. But if they are checking for weapons... I don’t know. Maybe I’m stupid. So only certain gun laws?

 

[holdover]

I don't know who told you that.

 

[holdover]

Blackface declared the square off limits to any kind of weapon A few days ago, the police fenced it off and will be making sure people in the square are not armed, I thought you heard about that.

 

[Acer-m14]

folding knifes under 3" inches allowed .. what about a scalpel .. LOL ..

 

[Jsmegs77]

I'm disappointed in whoever is setting up their comms. On an amateur frequency, where the possibility of everyone being licensed is slim, and the use of encryption is disallowed.... A digital protocol with encryption on an itinerant frequency would have been preferable and there are plenty of legal avenues to achieve this.

 

[Uzi]

I thought the police weren’t going to enforce gun laws. But if they are checking for weapons... I don’t know. Maybe I’m stupid. So only certain gun laws?

Well, the only reason gun laws exist and continue to thrive and get worse is because police do as they're told and enforce said unconstitutional gun laws. If they were ignored like so many other laws are 24/7 by police, corrupt politicians wouldn't bother pushing them so much and it just wouldn't be an issue.

Why do I need to register my firearms with the police in NYS? because they want to know what I have and when it comes time to take them away illegally at some point. Why do I need an officers opinion on whether or not I should be able to exercise a god given right afforded to me at birth?

Why do police officers in NY arrest citizens for "non safe act compliant firearms", but they don't arrest our tyrannic governor for putting forth unconstitutional gun laws?

The police are not your friends, they DON'T give a shit about your rights, and the great majority of them all will do whatever they're told if they want to continue to have their job.

If police would honor their sworn oaths, the world would be a much better place.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I don't know who told you that.

This forum did. And if I remember correctly, you once said that the police will not enforce these new gun laws. I may be wrong.

 

[Marine Cpl]

To go encrypted would put a lot of users out since they won wouldn’t have the equipment to use it and the government would be able to tap in anyways. Most people on the ground will have cheap Baofengs. They should have used a MURS frequency though that isn’t subject to licensing. Just Part 95 which isn’t enforced.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I saw those stores and held back on posting them for being too tin foil hatish. The GPS jamming is explainable and it's centered off the Georgia coast. But the FBI claiming eminent domain to confiscate high end night vision. Seriously?

There are so many "coincidences" all lining up. Wtf.

I wonder if they will also jam SW and cell phones? Hell, call me paranoid.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I wonder if they will also jam SW and cell phones? Hell, call me paranoid.

They did in Carmel NY.

 

[MothMan]

I think the sensible thing for all good patriots to do is stay out of Richmond. Ain’t nothing good coming of this.

To late been here two days already.

 

[spat]

I wonder if they will also jam SW and cell phones? Hell, call me paranoid.

That volume of people in the square all at once might overwhelm a system designed for far fewer all on it's own.

Jamming might not be necessary.

 

[spat]

Of course this is a trap (physical and political) carefully designed by the dems to discredit and destroy the RKBA movement.

That doesn't mean we should just pack it in and head home. If all they need to do to stop us is bus in some antifa, setup some porta fences and call their flunkies in the media to sell some fairytale, then we are done.

Omaha Beach was a far more brutal trap laid by the Germans, Imagine if the allies had just said "it's a trap, we're just going to stay home, somebody call off D-Day"

 

[Grimscale]

run out of town on a rail.

No. they need to be tarred, feathered, and PUT IN PRISON to reflect on what they did wrong.
Why free them to go somewhere else and continue their attempts to destroy America?
Put them in with Bubba.

They are definitely going to try to discredit the whole thing as a white NAZI thing.

CNN has an opinion piece doing just that:

FBI arrests spotlight lessons learned after Charlottesville

Kathleen Belew says the arrest of three men with extremist ties who an official said were planning to attend a pro-gun rally in Virginia on Martin Luther King Day is a silver lining that some are learning lessons from the violence in Charlottesville -- but much more needs to be done.

www.cnn.com

 

[livingston]

Mandalay bay ....Practice run for this event...or events like this...Lets see .. Several coup attempts to overthrow our president... With one going on right now ...The very same folks just put an enclosure they will herd patriots into ... For their protection. ,or so they say... Look how this cage has been designed ... If a shit show happens the exits are all in one area ... Would this floor plan ever be allowed in a public building ? IF something happened ... How many folks would be trampled to death ? .. Think of many places that violence did happen and police just stood by and watched . On orders of the folks in charge. ...
The biggest slap in the face would be no one enter that confined space ... Just line the streets.... It would show total lack of confidence in governments ability to protect ....

 

[spat]

I'm disappointed in whoever is setting up their comms. On an amateur frequency, where the possibility of everyone being licensed is slim, and the use of encryption is disallowed.... A digital protocol with encryption on an itinerant frequency would have been preferable and there are plenty of legal avenues to achieve this.

They are not limited to one frequency.

You probably want at least one for disseminating information to the masses, and encryption would defeat the purpose of that.

You will undoubtedly want another for secure communication between your team members. For that one encryption and secrecy are valuable.

For the published frequency, some cross band repeaters would be good, to allow people who don't have 2M gear to also listen at least.

Should be retransmitted on FRS, MURS, CB, etc as well.

 

[livingston]

No. they need to be tarred, feathered, and PUT IN PRISON to reflect on what they did wrong.
Why free them to go somewhere else and continue their attempts to destroy America?
Put them in with Bubba.




CNN has an opinion piece doing just that:

FBI arrests spotlight lessons learned after Charlottesville

Kathleen Belew says the arrest of three men with extremist ties who an official said were planning to attend a pro-gun rally in Virginia on Martin Luther King Day is a silver lining that some are learning lessons from the violence in Charlottesville -- but much more needs to be done.

www.cnn.com

Getting the talking points down pat... Gun owners are in the same category as the Nazis and white power activists .. ...

 

[dsdmmat]

Can’t find the freq in broadcastify

 

[Jsmegs77]

I sincerely hope someone is giving it that much thought. Especially the team comms which I would be very disappointed to have in the clear.

Also, web link works. Look for 145.560 not 145.650 in the app.

 

[beebee]

Well, the only reason gun laws exist and continue to thrive and get worse is because police do as they're told and enforce said unconstitutional gun laws. If they were ignored like so many other laws are 24/7 by police, corrupt politicians wouldn't bother pushing them so much and it just wouldn't be an issue.

Why do I need to register my firearms with the police in NYS? because they want to know what I have and when it comes time to take them away illegally at some point. Why do I need an officers opinion on whether or not I should be able to exercise a god given right afforded to me at birth?

Why do police officers in NY arrest citizens for "non safe act compliant firearms", but they don't arrest our tyrannic governor for putting forth unconstitutional gun laws?

The police are not your friends, they DON'T give a shit about your rights, and the great majority of them all will do whatever they're told if they want to continue to have their job.

If police would honor their sworn oaths, the world would be a much better place.

Exactly.. I am so confused when I read on gun/patriot forums that the police/military will side with patriots and uphold the 2A when the shit hits the fan for real.. That will NEVER happen.. The police are NOT our friends.. They will follow orders.. Same with the military.. MAYBE, on a good day, 10% will refuse orders but even there I have my doubts..
Cops losing their jobs, and their fat retirement benefits that they can collect after only 20 years??.. Lots of cops retire in their 40's-50's, and then live a nice life while still young.. Think they will give that up in the name of patriotism???
Think a young gung ho Army or Marine pfc will ignore the orders of a Colonel thats given his unit "shoot to kill orders" against citizens?? Not going to happen..
Remember these phrases- "I was just doing my job"
" I was only following orders"
"I was doing what I was told to do"

Justification for horrible atrocities throughout history, right there in those three short sentences , and it will happen again..
The police and military will confiscate, will break down you door at night, will hold a gun to you or your terrorized families head, WILL kill you if ordered to do so..

"The police I know are all pro 2A"..

Heard it a million times, never seen any proof.. Please read about the gun confiscation during Katrina when honest people NEEDED their weapons for protection because of the looting and mayhem. Read about Kent state, armed soldiers against unarmed college kids.
Ruby ridge as well.. The Waco whackos... Quite a few examples in the modern age when most of us on this forum were around.

. That is how the military and police will act.. they are NOT our "friends" with a few exceptions here and there I suppose.... bob

 

[Deplorable Me]

Of course this is a trap (physical and political) carefully designed by the dems to discredit and destroy the RKBA movement.

That doesn't mean we should just pack it in and head home. If all they need to do to stop us is bus in some antifa, setup some porta fences and call their flunkies in the media to sell some fairytale, then we are done.

Omaha Beach was a far more brutal trap laid by the Germans, Imagine if the allies had just said "it's a trap, we're just going to stay home, somebody call off D-Day"

CNN is currently photoshopping the film from the Rodney King riots for release at this rally. Throwing in some Knob's Creek film they pirated for effect.

The gubbiner of VA is really working hard to prove he's a bigger douche bag than Andy.

 

[Cooolone]

Well... There is some reasoning to the story (OP)...

Both Obama and Clinton approaching the end of 2016 had subtly made statements aligning the NRA as supporters of domestic terrorism! They were serious, as they repeated those proclamation multiple times...

And under Obama, the 2012 NDAA gave the Executive branch of Govt unprecedented powers, ie, the ability to seize and hold even U.S. Citizens on U.S. soil, without due process, without notification or judicial oversight, for undetermined length of time, anyone deemed to be a threat to the United States. That threat vaguely qualified as simply as providing support... Obama publicy announced he would not sign the bill if it contained such troubling constitutional issues... But the Harvard trained Constitutional Scholar did indeed sign it, quietly after the stroke of midnight so as to Garner little media fanfare or notice. Want to discuss the subsequent "arming" of benign Federal agencies like the Dept. of Agriculture!?!?

So don't think for a moment that there are any limits to the progressive mentality of the "Reconstruction" of contemporary society in their own image! If you disagree, you're a threat. If you outwardly object to their agenda, you're a threat. If you want to protest, you're a threat. Wear insignia, you are a threat. If you read or watch the wrong material, you're a threat. If you're not supportive of their agenda, you're a threat.

To be sure ... Yes, Furgeson burned and no govt entity intervened. Here you have pre-emptive knee jerk reaction to a percieved threat, in all likelihood, to perfectly fit into an agenda, wrapped with a big fat bow!

"ANY" violence will provide justification for the Governor to proclaim "see, I told you so", look what happened because of all these gun nuts! We need to disarm them all!

Wanna really piss them off...

Outside the grid, set up tables on every corner and sell guns! No BGC required in VA! Hurry before they pass a new law requiring it. Do it daily, love your table location, make sure the media is paying attention.

Walk everywhere outside the grid with your openly displayed firearm! Do it in groups!

Postpone the event past the 24th expiration of the governor's emergency order!

Reconvene with no notice, go underground with Minutemen type flash mob events!

Move protests to each and every legislators home who supports the BS! Every single one! Protest at their kids schools. Show up when they go out to eat! Use all the tricks the koolaid drinking snowflakes have used!

Fuck them...

But don't fall into the trap. I agree, even if I were to be there, I certainly would not subject myself to the kill zone, or be contained, herded or otherwise restricted by authorities! There are other ways to make sure a message is delivered!

 

[Deplorable Me]

I wonder what would happen if they did an Occupy Wall Street? Show up with tents and camp for 3 months? In the Occupy Buffalo protest people were bringing them food and supplies.