Phazer
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14 inch barrel = legal?
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Marine Cpl
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No. The AR with no stock which isn't a rifle that's also not a pistol because it has a forward grip on it. It cannot be a rifle because it left the factory with no stock and it cannot be a pistol because it left the factory with a forward grip. It is designed to be fired 2 handed.
All it is is a generic firearm.
freddy
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Small correction, it's not a pistol because it is over 26" long, so it's to long to conceal. That means it can have a vertical grip without becoming an AOW like if you put a vertical grip on a pistol.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It is actually less than 26 inches long. It's a tad over 23 inches.
Marine Cpl
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I was going by the information in this link below which is in contrary to what you are saying but that is irrelevant. They are wrong but right that It isn't a pistol, revolver, shotgun, or rifle.
Franklin Armory's New AR-15 Is Neither A Pistol Nor A Rifle And No NFA Paperwork Required - The Truth About Guns
Acer-m14
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whats the definition of a shotgun in NY ?? did they define it ? .. just randomly thinking and to tired to search tonight( thisw morning) ..
did NY leave out Rifled Barrel to say its a shotgun ?? .. would be cool .. 14 inch rifled barrel 12ga RIFLE ..
this stuff is just so damn silly its really depressing ..
did NY leave out Rifled Barrel to say its a shotgun ?? .. would be cool .. 14 inch rifled barrel 12ga RIFLE ..
this stuff is just so damn silly its really depressing ..
freddy
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Is the Franklin Armory SE SSP 7.5" AR pistol that I posted (has no vertical foregrip, but does have a brace) NY legal with a 10 round fixed mag?
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4excal
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Eddie Gunks
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4excal
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Not for nothing..but it seems it's your attitude on this that makes it like "the other place" that you keep saying. I've only read page one of this thread so I really don't know how many more digs and disses continue in the following pages. But from what I see it's your responses that are the only ones snippy and "other place" style
Eddie Gunks
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Not for nothing..but it seems it's your attitude on this that makes it like "the other place" that you keep saying. I've only read page one of this thread so I really don't know how many more digs and disses continue in the following pages. But from what I see it's your responses that are the only ones snippy and "other place" style
Yup. He is a problem. Ignorant and argumentative.
4excal
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This place is nothing at all like the other place. It only becomes that when someone does the things that make us feel that way. Which almost never ever happens here. Well, almost never...
freddy
.308 Win
What would the paperwork read on retail sale?... 'other' or 'pistol' or 'shotgun'?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Any AR pistol with a fixed magazine is legal in NY.
freddy
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Is this also NY compliant with a fixed 10 round mag (it has a pistol brace)? Or must the vertical foregrip be removed?
FRANKLIN ARMORY™ XO-26-S™
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WTF is going on with that upper?
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If that is legal, I would want to build a 9mm with that sort of configuration.This is also NY compliant with a fixed 10 round mag (it has a pistol brace)? Or must the vertical foregrip be removed?
FRANKLIN ARMORY™ XO-26-S™
I'm curious, would you transfer the franklin arsenal xo-26? As it comes from the factory, (flash hider, pistol grip, detachable magazine)
If it has a fixed magazine and you have a pistol permit why wouldn't a FFL transfer it?
Because it doesn't have a fixed magazine, it has a standard detachable magazine.
The FFL would have to fix it to be legal in NY. That's the only way AR pistols are legal in this state.
Yes, but according the the ATF it isn't a pistol. Thats why I was asking. According to the atf it isn't a pistol, rifle, or a shotgun.
I guess I got sucked in and didn't realize this was still the same firearm as was in the OP. Ya I guess I haven't done enough research to form an opinion on this grey area. Personally I would just settle for an AR pistol with a fixed magazine, but then again I'm one of those people that don't have fixed mags.
It isn't the same gun, just another example of a not rifle, not shotgun, not pistol.
Phazer
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I DO NOT want one of these.
I'm curios why isn't it considered a pistol?
it isn't a pistol because of the over all length, and because it is not designed to be fired with one hand. I poked around a little bit and found the ATF letter to franklin arsenal regarding the xo-26. I'll attach it here.